7.1 audio mixing in Premiere?

Our client has a large amiptheater with a 10,000 lumen HD projector and 7.1 surround sound setup. They would like for us to produce a Blu-ray with 7.1 audio. We have delivered a 5.1 surround Blu-ray to them, but I'm not sure if Premiere Pro is able to mix 7.1.
How could we acomplish this?
Thanks.

Without going to other Encoders, I do not know of any plug-ins, or workflows to get full 7.1 from PrPro.
I would never say that it cannot be done, as I have seen some workflows for DD 5.1SS, that relied on open source tools (OK, those are not ALL in PrPro, but without expensive Encoders), that are claimed to work fine. There are some very creative people out there.
As for 7.1 on BD, Disney has released probably the largest 7.1 catalog of anyone, but still, there are few 7.1 titles out there, even from major studios. It seems that most commercial studios are pleased with DD 5.1 SS, and then a few supplemental formats, like DTS, DTS-HD, but do not seem inclined to go beyond 6 channels.
I would love to hear Neil Wilkes (one of the MOD's on the Encore Forum and a heavy-duty audio producer) weigh in on 7.1 SS, as I know that he would have many ideas, and I always learn something from his contributions.
As for the production, I often have many "channels" in Audition, however always output/Encode to DTS 6-channel for delivery.
Good luck, and please update the thread, as you research and explore.
Hunt

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