7200rpm hard drive

I was rather hoping that it would be possible to add a 7200rpm hard drive when ordering the new intel minis, since you can with the mac book pro. Would the intel minis take a 7200rpm drive, without getting to hot and have fan problems, since the MBP can? Is it harder to perform yourself than on the g4 minis, or would it be realistic that apple will add 7200rpm as BTO in the future?
(I was also considering a firewire drive, but I understand they are noisy compared to the mini, or are there any really quiet model out there?)

I really doubt apple will be adding the 7200 in the future. I think this is seen as a high end component, whereas they seem to market the mini to the low end consumer. It really is too bad as I think the sytem will be much more responsive wiht a 7200. You can add a 7200 yourself. I don't see heat as being a problem here.
If you do it yourself, ake sure you purchase a SATA drive.
Kalel

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You can't upgrade to a 7200rpm hard drive in the Early 2011 13" MacBook Pro. It is not supported. Period.

I tried unsuccesfully to upgrade the hard drive in my Early 2011 13" MacBook Pro to a 750GB 7200RPM hard drive. After several attempts with different hard drives I realized that the kernel panic that showed up was due to the lack of compatibility with the drives to the MacBook Pro. I had a Mid 2009 13" MacBook Pro that I did not have any issues with whatsoever. I sold that MacBook Pro and was able to upgrade to the brand new base model without any out of pocket cost. Upon purchase of the new 13" MBP I maxed out the RAM to the full 8GB. After 2 months of freezing, lockups, spinning rainbow wheels and having to force shutdown I tried one last ditch effort to see if a faster drive would help. After speaking with the Apple telephone reps and the Apple Store Genius Bar we discovered that Apple doesn't even offer the option of a 7200RPM drive on their website - a fact that I found quite disturbing. The concensus is that it is a power management issue that causes the incompatibility and the reason the drives are not offered on the 13" models. The problems I had were the end of the line for me. I just switched out that train wreck for the Early 2011 15" MacBook Pro base model. I got home and immediately installed the 750 GB 7200RPM Western Digital Scorpio Black hard drive and it was recognized within seconds. I'm back in business with gleeful abandon.

Sadly... they don't have all the answers. As someone who use to serve in the capacity (Mac Genius) it can definitely be a challenging position. You're "the voice" of Apple's service policy & procedures. Sounds like the person you spoke with got it wrong this time. It's definitely worth a follow up, because like I said, I've got a machine in my household that's living proof of compatibility between a 7200 RPM drive and 13" MBP (Early 2011).
Apple is very good about support documentation when there's incompatibility or unsupported configurations, the fact that there isn't one for 7200 RPM drives would tell me that the people/person you spoke with was misinformed.
I know I always appreciated when a customer made it known to me that I was wrong on something and supplied the right answer. I sure as heck don't have all the answers and if I can lead from my mistakes, well, I won't make them anymore.

Would a 7200rpm hard drive work in my 5.2 macbook?

Right now I have a 5400 rpm 120gb hard drive. I want to upgrade to one with more memory because right now I have run out. I also want a bit more speed and I have read that a 7200rpm hard drive would speed up my mac. I am using a early 2009 white macbook- 5.2 . Would a 7200rpm hard drive be compadible with this model?

Also what would the max capacity be? I read somewhere it is only 320gb. Could I go up to 500gb or 1tb?

7200rpm Hard Drives vs 5400rpm Ones

I was discussing the topic of hard drives with a friend and posited that a 7200rpm hard drive is more prone to failure than a 5400rpm one because of greater stress upon it due to higher speed/heat generated and greater vibration (in other words, more wear and tear).
I was pointing essentially at internal drives since they are in use far more so than external ones.
What are your opinions on this?

For what it is worth, there is rarely any difference in manufacturers MTBF rating for drives based on rotatinal speed. Even 10K and 15K drives - Hitachi lists it's latest 15K rpm enterprise drives at 1.6 million hours MTBF. And all of Hitachi's laptop drives, regardless of rotational speed, are rated for 600K load/unload cycles.
In my own experience (I've worked in IT for about 12 years) I've never noticed a correlation between drive failures and rotational speed. In multiple RAIDs over the years, from 7200rpm ATA to 15000 rpm SATA drives, failure rate seems highly random anyway, but I would hesitantly say it seems to correlate most with hours of actual use (and lets face it, over the 3-5 years life span of most laptops, those drives spend the majority of their time with heads parked).

15.4, 7200RPM Hard Drive NOT beeping and clicking

As a recent purchaser of a new 15.4 MBP with a 7200RPM hard drive, the discsussions regarding the beeping/ clicking/ freezing has caused me great concern.
I have not yet received my computer (in fact it still hasnt shipped), and I am considering cancelling the order. Before I do that though I wanted to see how many people were NOT experiencing these problems with their recent MBP's with the 7200RPM drive.
thanks in advance

Hi Kmac,
I read much of the lengthy thread regarding new MBP's with the factory upgraded Seagate 500 GB 7200 RPM hard drive (apparently this drive has 'motion sensor' which may be conflicting with MBP's internal 'motion sensor'?). Anyhow, I am considering the purchase of a 15.4" MBP and can really utilize the extra space and faster performance of the 500 GB drive. I think that your solution sounds great. A DIY upgrade (cost is much less than ordering the upgrade too, wonder though if a DIY upgrade would void the warranty and/or Applecare?). Here is what I have found on OWC for a DIY HD upgrade for the MBP. This Seagate HD appears to have the 'motion sensor' though. Where did you obtain the 'non motion sensor' version of this HD?
How easy was the DIY process? I've seen OWC help videos for this process and it looks fairly easy.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Best,
Dennis

Shall i put a 7200rpm hard drive into my black macbook for logic pro?

hi, i bought high spec black macbook refurbished which came with a 5400rpm drive inside it.
Im using logic pro, and its been running fine with small projects, but when i have a medium sized project using several vst instruments and exs24s using many audio samples, all of which are running off the internal.... i get error messages, system overload messages...and i am unable to bounce to audio file (in logic pro)
im thinking its the slow hard drive which is causing the main problems.
I have 2gb ram. It also takes sometimes over 5 mins to open this logic file. And then some!
Or is this poor performance par for the course, if using just ONE internal drive, for both system files and audio storage....... ?
Are there possible probs which may arise from taking out the 5400 drive and fitting a faster 7200 drive in to my macbook? I hear it will heat up more....so could this mess with other macbook componets?? the excess heat...... or are macbooks bulit to handle 7200rpm drives too??? dont remember is 7200 was an optional upgrade with my model or not......
2.4ghz intelcore2duo.
Anybody fitted a 7200 drive into their macbooks???? all running ok??
Would i simply put the new hard drive in..... and then boot up from boot dvds and my time machine backup....to have a full up to date system, all apps and file intact as they are now???? Im worried it will get messy and problems...... my current drive is packed to rafters with apps and files and work i have done......i dont want to lose a thing.....would it be a simple easy fool proof transition to faster hard drive????
And could i still use the current hard drive? With an enclosure??
Ive heard people have ripped out the opticla dvd drive and fitted ANOTHER hard drive into their macbooks, so the laptop housing two hard drives..... that sounds good...but crazy..... maybe later ill do that....as i hardly use the cd/dvd drive...... and you can always hook it up with wire if need be......
any tips or advice....would be most kind and helpful.
thankyou.

I used Carbon Copy Cloner- do not use Time Machine for this- to make a bootable clone of the drive inside my Macbook Pro, and then installed the new, faster drive. I then booted from the cloned drive, and cloned that back into the fresh internal drive. That being said:
1) I only did this since I bought the laptop used, and didn't get the install OS discs. I would have started fresh and installed everything myself, but then again, it wasn't my laptop, and I didn't care about what was on it. You might.
2) You need to clone to an external Firewire drive if you want to make a bootable clone. Do not use USB. Do not use Time Machine, as its backups are not able to be booted from.
3) The whole replace the internal DVD drive with another sounds pretty iffy to me. Just use the Firewire drive you'll now be having at you disposal for a variety of things, including possibly recording to. I can advise once I know what your interface is, if any, and if you've got a Macbook or a Macbook Pro- I forgot to look.
You will get much better results with a 7200 RPM drive, by the way. You can certainly use the old drive in some sort of enclosure, although it's still a slow drive and all, so I wouldn't really invest much into it. Maybe put it in a USB enclosure and use it for backups, or for transporting material, or for cracking walnuts, maybe, if you have a walnut tree.
Even in this fancy computer age, there is still nothing better than a freshly roasted walnut or pecan. Good luck, L

Can you fit in a 7200rpm hard drive into a macbook?

mac book pro is expensive.
my main concern about the black macbook is that the hard drive is less than 7200rpm. music software pro tools says to use 7200rpm drives.
so is there a way to put one in? it doesnt seem to be an option to upgrade on mac shop.
pro is expensive!
thanks

Aaron Michalczuk wrote:
Personally, I would recommend you try newegg.com they usually have very good deals. All you need to look for is a 2.5 inch hard drive (usually called a notebook drive or laptop drive). It also should be SATA. Other than that you can just look for whatever specs you would like. I would recommend Western Digital, Seagate, or Samsung as excellent brands. However, for the most part it wont matter too much. I recommend newegg, because it is the largest online computer retailer in the world (i think) and all of their products have good reviews so you can read up on how the hard drives have worked for other people. The hard drive that came stock in my macbook is a Fujitsu which is just another manufacturer. I would base your decision off of the specs and the ratings, not the manufacturer. Just remember 2.5" SATA
I bought from my 200 GB Travelstar 7K200 from Newegg myself. That being said, I doubt Newegg is the largest online computer retailer in the world; they've got an annual revenue rate of just under $2 billion. I'd think Dell would be bigger, although their $68 billion per year may include store sales now that they have boxed computers sold at other retailers. CDW is also bigger.
You forgot the most important spec. The drive height can't be more than 9.5 mm. There are a few oversized drives that are thicker and won't slide into a MacBook.
Best Buy (if you're in the US) has a 200 GB Hitachi Travelstar 7K200 kit complete with USB enclosure for $159.99. It comes in a full retail package, while most of the drives at Newegg come as bare drives in an antistatic bag. I actually paid more just for my drive from Newegg earlier this year, although the price has gone down.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8682222&type=product&id=1197679249 375

Will a 7200rpm hard drive overheat my DV9009 computer?

I have a DV 9009 us computer. After reading the post on upgrading a hard drive I couldn't find the answer to this question. I'd like to upgrade from a 5200rpm HD to a 7200rpm HD but I'm not sure the computer can handle it. I'm afraid of overheating. Where would I find this information on the HP website? I'd like to get the HITACHI Travelstar HD20500 IDK/7K 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cashe 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s hard drive, but I'm not really sure if my computer can handle it. I think I have to stick with a 5400 RPM drive. Am I right?
thanks
Nelson

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500 gb 7200rpm hard drive vs 128 gb solid state drive

I am considering buying a macbook pro laptop the 15 inch with the i7 processor. I will probably get the anti glare screen. What I am on the fence about is whether it is worth the extra money to get the solid state drive or the 7200 rpm drive. I would like something that might be faster than the standard 5400rpm drive, I have read these are laptop drives & they are a bit slower than a 7200rpm drive which seems to be standard in desktops. With performance & speed being very important to me; (I will be doing video editing in both standard def & high def) I would consider upgrading the hard drive to the 7200 rpm or the solid state. Another factor is the hard drive capacity, this is not as big an issue as I keep most of my content on external hard drives.
I need a little help in deciding, I am new to macs I am coming from a 7 year old windows xp home desktop PC. this will be one of my biggest purchases.
would I feel a big difference in performance getting the solid state drive? would it be a lot better than the 7200rpm drive? or should I just stick with the stock 5400rpm drive?
If anybody knows of any issues or known failures with one of the hard drives, I would like to be clued in as, this computer will have to last me at least 5 years, I am getting a one time allotment of financial aid from my school, I want to make the right choice.
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I bought a 160 Gbyte Intel SSD, replaced the internal drive and that in a case to use as an external. I also have an SSD in my Mini. Using an SSD is a major improvement. Fragmentation is no longer an issue. Applications start up very fast, some instantaneously. The computer starts up in less than 10 seconds. In short, all operations requiring disc reads are lightning fast. There really is no downside, unless you are bothered by using an external drive for very large files (but then, you would probably use an external drive for that purpose regardless).
The Intel SSD may be above your budget (it is about twice the price for 160 Gbytes than the built to order with 128 Gbytes). If that is the case, just get the built to order and you can add an external drive for very little money if an when you need it.
I bought a 15" i7 and used it for a couple of days before I swapped the drives. In comparison, the stock drive made the computer feel sluggish. With the SSD, it is snappy, fast and responsive.
Others may disagree, but personally I do not believe that you will get anywhere near the improvement with a 7200 rpm drive. The SSD is tops. Also, by the way, they are silent, which I like.

Internal 320 7200rpm hard drive

where can i buy a good replacement hard drive for my new macbook pro? i need 7200rpm. i currently have the stock 320 5400rpm ;(

I prefer OWC or newegg for my purchases. Hard drive manufacturers are more a personal preference. I like seagate, others like western digital, its really your decision but I've thought OWC had great customer support at a good price and newegg has some very cheap prices for equipment.
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15" MBP Unibody 250GB 7200rpm Hard Drive 'clunks'

I have a 15" MacBook Pro (2.4Ghz) which has been upgraded to the 250GB 7200rpm HDD. I noticed that if you pick up the laptop (quickly) or tap the bottom right corner with your wrist or whenever the laptop is not on a level surface that I hear a 'clunking' noise. It sounds like the hard drive has to stop or has some kind of safety / shock protection?
I took to the Apple store and they replaced the hard drive saying that it didn't sound 'normal' but didn't give any solution or reason why it was doing it. So now I have the laptop back with a new hard drive and it's still making the same sound - this clunking sound.
I read the threads on the hard drives and it also makes the 'humming' sound when pressure is on the case sometimes but I'm not worried about that - it's the clunking that makes me nervous and the fact that i'm already on the second hard drive isn't comforting!
Any thoughts....????

It uses a built in motion sensor to park the drive head (and prevent damage) if there's any sudden movement, it also parks the heads when not in frequent use to conserve power. The way I'd describe the noise this one makes is like the soft sound of a ping pong ball dropping onto a metal plate ... gentle plop sort of sound.

Hitachi, Seagate or Toshiba 100GB 7200RPM Hard Drives?

Hey all
I'm considering upgrading the Hard Drive on my powerbook. but im stuck with choices. I Know Hitachi is the fastest out there but it's also the noiseiest as i've heard. The Seagate i hear is quiter but not as fast as the Hitachi and the Toshiba i just dont have a clue. So for all you owners of the new Hi Res Books with 100GB HD which brand is in yours and is it noisy/fast, quiet/fast, quiet/slow or noisy/slow. Please let me know.
NB In system profiler, under the 2nd ATA Bus
If you have an Sxxxxxxxxxx value, yours is seagate
If you have an Hxxxxxxxxxx value, yours is Hitachi
Again Toshiba i do not know
Any help would be appreciated

My $0.02 -- I've actually had both in the last 30 days. I bought my original PB f G4 15" from the local Apple Store on 30 Oct w/ the 100GB 7200 rpm hard drive and 1GB RAM. I had some issues with some of the keys not being right. Brought it back in after 3 weeks and they agreed. A long story but essentially they destroyed one of my keys in question, didn't have a replacement keyboard, and so gave me a brand new PB. The original had the Hitachi, the replacement the Seagate. I think that the Seagate is a bit noiser...certainly is sounds 'different'...but overall not that much of a difference. However, I do notice the fan quite a bit more on the replacement. Of course, this is my first laptop (and my first Mac for that matter) so I don't have any prior experience to go on. Hope this helps.

T520 500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Noisy?

My employer gave me a T520 and the keyboard is the best I have ever used. I also own a Thinkpad Edge and like the Accutype keyboard, but I think T520 keyboard is far better.
I noticed that the T520 in the configuration I want is under $1000 now and am thinking about buying one before it is too late.
I'm thinking about getting the 500 GB 7200 RPM hard drive. I am going to assume it is made by Seagate. Is it noisy? My Thinkpad Edge had a Seagate 250 GB 5400 RPM hard drive that continuously made a shuffling noise, even when not actively being used. It was not the usual clicking noise, but lower in frequency. I'm thinking the head was being parked every time data transfer stopped just in case the drive got dropped. Or perhaps to conserve power. But that's just a guess. Whatever it was it was very irritating. I replaced it with a small SSD and everything is fine now. I also have a Seagate 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive that I removed from an external USB drive and put into an HP laptop. It did not make the shuffling noise when it was in the external case but makes the same noise now that it is in the laptop. I'm guessing it is a Seagate thing. I used a utility called QuietHDD to adjust the acoustic parameters on both drives, and it worked, but I wonder what that does to performance and reliability. I am reluctant to use QuietHDD on a new laptop.
How noisy is the 500 GB 7200 RPM hard drive in the T520? (My employer's T520 has an SSD). Also is the 5400 RPM version less noisy? And is one more reliable? The difference in price is about $30.

the 500 gigs 7200 rpm hdd noise level is lower then the previous generations used.
The noise of the notebook hdd nowadays are mostly from the reader/writer reader moving around and not so much the spinning platter.
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New Seagate 500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Question

Hi Everyone,
I bought a new i5 15.4" Macbook Pro on the first day they were available and yesterday I upgraded the hard drive from the stock 320 GB 5400RPM Drive. My question is that with the stock drive I was able to hear the heads park on the drive if the macbook was ever moved suddenly or fast. Since putting the new drive in yesterday and doing a clean install on the drive. Although it is super silent and I don't feel a lot of vibration on that side of the macbook, I never hear the heads park. I also don't or haven't heard any clicks that other users have been experiencing with this drive, or at least not yet anyways.
Is there a way to test to make sure that they are in fact parking?. The Sudden Motion Sensor is enabled in the system profiler. What else can I check out?
The exact model of hard drive I installed was: Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB Model:ST9500420AS
This model doesn't included g-force. As I was told to get the one without it.
I just want to make sure the drive is functioning properly as it should...
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
Thanx
Greg

gorylewis wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I bought a new i5 15.4" Macbook Pro on the first day they were available and yesterday I upgraded the hard drive from the stock 320 GB 5400RPM Drive. My question is that with the stock drive I was able to hear the heads park on the drive if the macbook was ever moved suddenly or fast. Since putting the new drive in yesterday and doing a clean install on the drive. Although it is super silent and I don't feel a lot of vibration on that side of the macbook, I never hear the heads park. I also don't or haven't heard any clicks that other users have been experiencing with this drive, or at least not yet anyways.
Is there a way to test to make sure that they are in fact parking?. The Sudden Motion Sensor is enabled in the system profiler. What else can I check out?
The exact model of hard drive I installed was: Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB Model:ST9500420AS
This model doesn't included g-force. As I was told to get the one without it.
I just want to make sure the drive is functioning properly as it should...
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
Thanx
Greg
Wouldn't it be easier to go the Apple Logo on the upper left corner and check about this Mac and click more info. There you will hopefully see:
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
I did a swap too. Removed the stock 500 GB 5400 RPM and installed a 500 MB 7200 RPM. Sensor Enabled.
Good Luck!

7200rpm hard drive vs 5400rpm hard drive

Hi
Im thinking about getting a C2D macbook pro and need to know if there will be performance gains from having the 100GB 7200RPM drive or just stick with the 160GB 5400RPM drive.
thanks for your help
17" Powerbook 1GHz 1GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

OTOH, the new 160 GB, 5400 rpm drive uses perpendicular recording and has much greater data density than the 100 GB, 7200 rpm drive. If you look around the web at the various benchmarks (like the ones at Tom's Hardware), you'll see that it really comes down to what manufacturer made the drive. Some of the 160 GB, 5400 rpm drives actually outperform some of the 100 GB, 7200 rpm drives. However, the fastest 100 GB, 7200 rpm drive is still slightly faster than the fastest 160 GB, 5400 rpm drive.
Another question you should ask yourself is how much data will you be storing on the drive. A slower 160 GB, 5400 rpm drive with 80 GB of data on it is actually faster than a 100 GB, 7200 rpm with the same amount of data.
And also keep in mind that just because a drive transfers a few MB per second faster in a benchmark doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to notice a difference in everyday use, especially between these two drives.
I'm sorry if this doesn't help you make a decision. It's a close call and it's hard to say which is the better drive. You could gamble on the 7200 and hope that you get one of the faster ones (and save about $100), or you could stick with the 5400 and have an extra 60 GB.

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