785GTM-E45 mobo: Q'n'C is enabled but CPU fan doesn't slow down
Q'n'C is on, CPU clock is down when idle but CPU fan rotates on full and makes noise. Bios fan settings cannot do anything to slowdown the fan.
Tried two coolers with same result. All coolers were with 3pin connectors while there is 4-pin jack on mobo. Bios has been updated - no result.
Any ideas?
Thank you
"Fan Power Connectors: CPUFAN1, SYSFAN1
The fan power connectors support system cooling fan with +12V. When connecting the
wire to the connectors, always note that the red wire is the positive and should be connected
to the +12V; the black wire is Ground and should be connected to GND. If the
mainboard has a System Hardware Monitor chipset on-board, you must use a specially
designed fan with speed sensor to take advantage of the CPU fan control.
Please refer to the recommended CPU fans at processor’s official website or consult
the vendors for proper CPU cooling fan.
CPUFAN1 supports fan control. You can install Dual Core Center utility that will automatically
control the CPU fan speed according to the actual CPU temperature.
Fan cooler set with 3 or 4 pins power connector are both available for CPUFAN1.
SYSFAN1 support fan control, too. You may select how percentage of speed for the
SYSFAN1 in BIOS." P2-12
"CPU Smart FAN Target
The mainboard provides the Smart Fan function which can control the CPU fan speed
automatically depending on the current temperature to keep it with in a specific range.
You can enable a fan target value here. If the current CPU fan temperature reaches to
the target value, the smart fan function will be activated. It provides several sections to
speed up for cooling down automatically.
PC Health Status
CPU/ System Temperature, CPU FAN/ SYS FAN 1 Speed, CPU Vcore, 3.3V, 5V,
12V
These items display the current status of all of the monitored hardware devices/components
such as CPU voltage, temperatures and all fans’ speeds." P3-15
Do n o t use other monitoring and fan controlling programs at the same time. There must be something the matter with the fan cable or the processor seating. 3 pins have been enough for fan control since before 2000, and as you notice on the processor fan connection, you can choose between 3 and 4 pin fan connection. Pretty silly to have such a choice if 3 pins wouldn't work.
- Heck, even the photos in the manual displays a three pin '!
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How do you know it's randomly booting a different drive?
What are the messages you get?
As this:
That looks like a broken drive to me, where it can't find the bootsector/mbr in time to boot from, so the BIOS moves to the next drive and tries again.
I built this box about 2 months ago or so and this is the version of BIOS that came with the MOBO. I have not flashed the bios in this board.
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Keeping in mind that I had initially selected the Hitachi drive in all 4 of the boot sequences and selected NO to boot from other device - If the Hitachi drive was not ready or had a bad bootsector/mbr should I not get a message similar to "cannot boot from selected device so and so is missing etc?? I was under the impression that when one disabled the boot from other device as in NO then the bios should not attempt to go any further then attempting to boot from the selected device(s)????
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Hi.
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Bios v. 8.0 the latest. Before that there was another older ver. of 8.0 - i've upgraded it but nothing has changed.
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Advanced Clock Calibration
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785GTM-E45 not POSTing after a week (Need help)
Hello guys and girls,
Good day to you.
I am new here as I just happily purchase my new MSI motherboard last week. Yay~
However, I am now currently facing problem in POSTing the PC after it was working beautifully for a week. Hope someone can help me as I have exhausted my testing/diagnostics options.
Some other infos that might be informative :-
1.) APS LED does not light anymore.
2.) No longer have successful POST beep anymore. (CPU Cooler comes on though)
3.) Of course the black screen.
4.) The last boot time, I remember seeing CMOS related error in the POST screen. After that loaded into Windows XP 32bit and I restarted the PC. Then the No POST happened.
My PC hardware components :-
CPU: Athlon X2 5000 (2.2GHz)
Motherboard: MSI 785GTM-E45 (ver 1.4) (No idea on how to check the BIOS as I can't even POST now)
RAM: I have 4 units working memory that I have tested to be working in this motherboard before it is not POSTing.
a.) Kingston DDR2 667MHz (KVR667D2N5/2G) [1 Stick]
b.) Mushkin DDR2 800MHz [1 Stick]
c.) Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066MHz 2x1GB Kit [2 Sticks] (using this one as the main before it failed to POST)
Graphics: Using onboard
PSU: Seasonic S12D 750W
a.) +3.3V = 24A ; +5V = 30A. (150W)
b.) +12V Combine = 62A (744W)
c.) -12V = 0.8A (9.6W)
d.) +5Vsb = 3A (15W)
Diagnostics that I have done :-
1.) Checked whether the motherboard is touching the casing which will ground it. The motherboard is screwed on the standoffs with a 1.5cm away from the case. Checked the motherboard edges, not touching the casing either. Checked whether is there any screws that are short-circuiting the motherboard, nothing there as well.
2.) Unplug the HDD and ODD. No POST as well. Plugged the HDD and ODD to another computer, it works.
3.) Triple checked the power connections in the PC. No POST. After that plugged my Seasonic PSU to another computer to test. It was working.
4.) Plugged another working PSU (Xigmatek 550W) from a working PC. Quadruple check the power connections is correct. No POST still.
5.) Test the memory DIMMs with different slots (all 4 of them). Installed one at a time and each time is in different slot. No POST still. Tried the board with NO memory, it beeps non-stop (Good news it is still working?)
6.) Did the Clear CMOS method according to manual. No POST still.
7.) Checked the monitor by plugging into another computer and see whether is it faulty. Is working.
8.) Retest all the memory DIMMs in another PC. All 4 DIMMs is working in another PC.
9.) Carefully remove the CPU and reseat the processor. After that retest all the 4 memory DIMMS (No matter which slot). No POST still.
10.) Disassemble the motherboard from the casing and other components to checked whether the capacitors are bad. Didn't detect any.
11.) Plugged in a working graphic card to check whether the onboard graphic is faulty. No POST still.
So now, I think I am left with 2 possibilities. The processor or the motherboard, however, the motherboard was the one showing symptoms based on the LED thing. So I am siding towards the motherboard is faulty?
I am out of ideas now. Hope someone can help me.Yes, the CPU power is connected. both the 4 pins and 24 pins.
Some updates, I went to buy a Sempron 140 processor to test just for the sake whether the mobo works.. I just burnt some money on it.. it won't work.. Brought the motherboard back to the shop, they tested it and it is faulty.. so warranty claim. Guess I wont have a mobo for sometime..
Consider solved and I just burnt some money buying a spare proc which I think I wont be using also. haha.
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UVD-power summary of MSI 5770 Hawk, 5570, & 785GTM-E45; Hawk min voltage
MSI R5770 Hawk
MSI R5570-MD1G
MSI 785GTM-E45
GPU PWR SYS f_GPU f_VRAM V_GPU set V_GPU meas Note 1: freq & voltage Note 2: system state
DCW Mhz Mhz V V
785 35 197 400 idle stock idle, light (5 min max)
785 46 498 400 UVD stock 1x 720p sharpen complex 2
5570 43 157 200 0.9 idle stock idle, light (5 min max)
5570 54 400 800 1 UVD stock 1x 720p sharpen complex 2
5570 52 400 800 0.9 0.8987 UVD undervolt/underclock 1 1x 720p sharpen complex 2
5570 55 400 800 0.9 0.9001 UVD undervolt/underclock 1 1x 1080p sharpen complex 2
5770 53 157 300 0.95 0.956 idle stock idle, light (5 min max)
5770 58 157 600 0.95 0.957 idle 2x f_VRAM idle, light (5 min max)
5770 65 157 1200 0.95 0.957 idle 4x f_VRAM (nom. max) idle, light (5 min max)
5770 61 400 900 0.95 0.958 idle @ UVD stock idle, light (5 min max)
5770 72 400 900 0.95 0.9499 UVD stock 1x 720p sharpen complex 2
5770 75 400 900 0.95 0.9508 UVD stock 1x 1080p sharpen complex 2
5770 60 157 300 0.95 0.9498 UVD undervolt/underclock 1 1x 720p sharpen complex 2
5770 63 157 300 0.95 0.9503 UVD undervolt/underclock 1 1x 1080p sharpen complex 2
5770 61 157 200 0.95 0.9497 UVD undervolt/underclock 2 1x 720p sharpen complex 2
5770 61 157 200 0.95 0.9497 UVD undervolt/underclock 2 1x 1080p sharpen complex 2
AMD Power Play states are glitchy, and not all videos detect and run with DirectX Video Acceleration. So max power during playback can end up on the highest power state which is not shown above.
MSI R5770 Hawk minimum power
The uP6204 power controller used on the MSI R5770 Hawk design nominally supports 0.5625 to 1.3500V in 0.0125V steps.
With a stock video BIOS, MSI Afterburner 1.50/1.51 allows the MSI R5770 Hawk to be soft-modded from 1.000 to 1.350V in the roughly 0.0125V steps.
The video BIOS can be set as low as 0.950V but with no steps between 0.950 and 1.000V.
MSI Afterburner 1.60 beta 4 or earlier adds the AllowCaptureVoltageDefaults profile setting. Acquiring, then changing the default GPU voltage allows "resetting" the Hawk to 0.950V in Afterburner for the highest frequency state. This allows maintaining Power Play transitions and running the max frequency at 0.950V, where Afterburner by itself is limited to 1.000V.
The max frequency state of the Hawk is 875 MHz 1200 MHz 1.200V. To have the most flexibilty on control the Hawk, lowest power in the Desktop/HTPC/light gaming, and the ability to manually overvolt/overclock for specific games: run the Hawk at 0.950V in the max frequency state.
How-to work around Afterburner and the Hawk design to run 1.000V in the max frequency state. *
1) in the video BIOS, leave the voltage as 1.200V in the BIOS--which is required for Afterburner to change the Hawk voltages in Windows
2) in the video BIOS, change the GPU frequency of that state to something less than or equal to the maximum stable frequency at 1.000V
3) in Afterburner, Reset to default settings **
4) in Afterburner, change "Core Voltage" to 1.000V
5) in Afterburner, Apply
6) in Afterburner, Save to Profile 1
7) in Afterburner, \Settings\Profiles\2D Profile\ & "3D Profile" choose "Profile 1" ***
8) on each Windows startup, run Afterburner
How-to work around Afterburner and the Hawk design to run 0.950V in the max frequency state.*
1) in the video BIOS, leave the voltage as 1.200V in the BIOS--which is required for Afterburner to change the Hawk voltages in Windows
2) in the video BIOS, change the GPU frequency of that state to something less than or equal to the maximum stable frequency at 0.950V
3) in Afterburner, confirm the voltage default setting for 0.950V--capture voltage defaults as needed using AllowCaptureVoltageDefaults mentioned above
4) in notepad as an Administrator (Win 6.x), change the Hawk's profile configuration file to 0.950V
example:
[Settings]
uP6204_Defaults=D7 20
5) in Afterburner, Reset to default settings **
6) in Afterburner, change "Core Voltage" to 1.000V--changing the profile setting to 0950/950 is not useful as of 1.60 beta 4.
7) in Afterburner, Apply
8) in Afterburner, Save to Profile 1
9) in Afterburner, \Settings\Profiles\2D Profile\ & "3D Profile" choose "Profile 1" ***
10) on each Windows startup, run Afterburner
11) in Afterburner, "Reset" to re-enable 0.950V.
* UnlockVoltageControl in the primary Afterburner profile's [Settings] will likely be needed.
** Only default profiles support Power Play states correctly.
*** Having a non-"default" profile in 3D results in the "3D Profile" activating instead of the UVD in the BIOS.
MSI Afterburner, default voltages
Profile Idle V_GPU @ V_CORE (V)
D7 12 1.125
D7 14 1.100
D7 16 1.047
D7 18 1.049
D7 19 1.037
D7 20 0.949
D7 21 0.937
D7 22 0.925
D7 23 0.912
D7 24 0.899
Power Play states in RBE 1.25
0 Boot 00 -> 00 -> 00
1 Power saving 01 -> 02 -> 00
2 UVD 03 -> 03 -> 03
3 Power saving 04 -> 02 -> 00
4 ACPI 01 -> 01 -> 01
Stock clocks & V_GPU
Clock info 00 01 02 03 04
f_GPU 875 157 600 400 400
f_RAM 1200 300 1200 900 1200
V_GPU 1.20 0.95 1.00 0.95 0.95
My current and likely final settings for MSI R5770 Hawk:
MOD clocks & V_GPU
Clock info 00 01 02 03 04
f_GPU 714 157 600 157 400
f_RAM 1200 300 600 300 600
V_GPU 1.20 0.95 0.95 0.95 0.95
Afterburner Profiles
# CoreVoltage CoreClk MemClk
1 0950 714000 1200000
2 1000 785000 1200000
3 1125 902000 1200000
5 1200 951000 1200000
More data & full system config:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1858205&postcount=1 -
MSI 785GTM-E45 BIOS CPU fan voltage control
Hello MSI gurus,
I've replaced the MB in an older HP media center with the MSI 785GTM-E45 running BIOS V8.8 out of the box.
CPU = Athlon 64 X2 4200+
My problem is the stock CPU fan has a 3 pin connection (voltage controlled) and is running at 100% speed all the time. From what I've read on the forums there are a number of people that have this issue (with other MBs with 4 pin cpu fan headers) and don't want to switch to a 4 pin CPU fan (PWM controlled). I am in the same situation.
I am hoping that there is a BIOS for this board that has an option to switch to or enable voltage control on the CPU fan header.
I have tried enabling the CPU smart fan target but no matter what settings I chose the fan remains at 100%. The H/W monitor of the MB indicates a CPU temperature (33C) well below the target (tried all options from 40C to 60C in 5C increments).
I have tried MSI's dual core center and it had no effect on the fan speed.
I have tried the 3rd party freeware SpeedFan and if had no effect on the fan speed.
I am not able to check if I have the latest BIOS or even find changelogs for existing BIOS verions because MSI seems to only direct BIOS downloads for this product to the Live update application. I have installed the live update program and it indicated V8.8 was the most recent veriosn of the BIOS for this board, although I have seen posts indicating the Live Update application is not to be trusted.
Dual core center, SpeedFan, and Live Update have all now been uninstalled.
I know the fan I'm using will change speed because I can connect a 3 pin fan controller and manually dial down the speed.
I know the BIOS can read the fan speed becase it correctly shows the RPM changes when I use the hardware fan controller.
Can anyone direct me to a BIOS version for this board (or some secret keystroke) that enables automated 3 pin voltage control on the CPU fan header?
Thanks in advance for your time.For those who are interested I received the following answer from MSI technical support. Personally I find this to be a flaw in this board's design. I chose this MB to replace a dead MB in a HP media center for a friend. If I was buying this board for myself I likely would be using it as a HTPC because of the mATX form factor, HDMI on board, and backward compatibility for CPUs. However, due to the added cost of purchasing a new heat sink and fan I would be RMAing if I had bought it for myself. Considering many of the top performing after market coolers still come with a 3 pin fan it was a poor decision for MSI to not include support for automatic speed control of a 3 pin voltage controlled fan.
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Dear Sir/Madam,
Thanks for contacting msi technical support team!
We are sorry that because of the circuit designs,we could not add cpu smart function for 3 pin's connector fan in the BIOS. The difference between 3pins and 4pins is that the second has a temperature controller but the first does not.We would suggest you utilize a 4-pin CPU Fan in order to control the CPU Fan speed.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused you!
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team -
785GTM-E45 and the disappearing video controller
Noticed an odd behavior on my 785GTM-E45 motherboard. When there is no video card installed on the motherboard, the onboard video works.
I have since installed an ATI Radeon HD 4350 board, and I can no longer use the video ports on the motherboard. Hardware info only shows one adapter.
I was hoping to use three or four monitors with this setup, but as of yet no dice.
I have tried both Internal and PCI-E for the primary video setting in the BIOS, but that doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone know why this is? Thanks!+1.
I have a G45 Asus mobo, and the only thing I can do when a videcard is installed is choosing between internal (and the videocard doesn't work) or pcie (and the internal doesn't work). Before, I had an old G31 Gigabyte motherboard, and I was able to use both internal and pcie at the same time. Maybe some nvidia 9300/9400 boards too. I never tried a pcie card with my 890GXM-G65, don't think it will work.
What you can do, since you only have an HD4350, is to plug it in the pcie 1x port...you'll have to cut it at the end (quite easy with a cutter, but be careful !), but normally you should be able to use both HD4350 and Internal (not too sure how the driver will react ?). You could also buy a special pcie 1x videocard (or pci).
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785GTM-E45 AND OCZ2P10664GK PC2 8500
AMD 7850 AM2+ 4 gigs ocz memory. When I set ram to epp mode for 1066 set to 2.2v the bios post but windows will not load. I tried manually setting the memory timing but same problem. I messed around with multipliers and fsb and was able to get the system memory running stable at 1000mhz but 1066 would be nice. is there a list of supported memory that works with this board. I've noticed that no bios updates are available yet. I've also contacted ocz about this issue.
ThanksOCZ configurator report presumes Phenom II X4.... The RAM installed is not listed for that mobo by OCZ. Everyone needs to update their configurators for the new processors...
Upgrade Configuration for: MSI
Model: MSI 785GTM-E45
System Specs
Type of system: Motherboards
Bus Architecture: PCI
CPU Type: Phenom II X4
Memory Specs
Standard Memory:
Maximum Memory: 8192 MB
Memory Expansion: 2
Model Specs
Model Comments: AMD 785G, 2600 FSB, Micro ATX
CPU Comments: Phenom II X4
COMPATIBLE MEMORY
Description Mfr SKU/OEM# OCZ Technology Part No.
256MB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v
256MB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v
512MB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v
512MB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v
512MB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ2800512
1GB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ210661GB
1GB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, double-sided
1GB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, single-sided
1GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ26671GB
1GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, double-sided
1GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, single-sided
1GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ28001GB
1GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, double-sided
1GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, single-sided
2GB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ210662GB
2GB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, double-sided
2GB, 1066MHz, DDR2-1066 PC2-8500, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, single-sided
2GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ26672GB
2GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, double-sided
2GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, single-sided
2GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ28002GB
2GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, double-sided
2GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v, single-sided
4GB, 667MHz, DDR2-667 PC2-5300, 240p DIMM, 1.8v
4GB, 800MHz, DDR2-800 PC2-6400, 240p DIMM, 1.8v OCZ28004GB -
Hi Everybody,
I update new bios (g10) my 785gtm-e45, IGP overclok is on but there is no vcore adjusment. Will MSI enable vcore adjusment or should we mod our bios to enable or selectable vcore?See this thread, same topic.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=130185.msg979795#msg979795 -
MSI 785gtm-e45 usb not recognizing
HI all. i just built this pc yesterday using this mobo MSI 785gtm-e45 with AMD phenom X4 2.5ghz along side with 2ghz of ram ddr2 800mhz and installed windows 7 ultimate 32bit . everything went well thru the installation of the os, cept when i went to plug in my jump drive the lower right hand box said /!\ usb is not recognized. im using a ps/2 mouse and keyboard it connects thru the internet, i even downloaded drivers from the website and installed and still im getting that warning. any idea of wut could be the culprit
Quote from: Svet on 26-July-10, 07:10:13
>>If you are having problems with USB ports, read this topic.<<
I am having the same problems, but this is also affecting my onboard USB connections. I have disconnected the panel USB connections (they only had 8 wires anyway, so no need for the posted reply in that thread) from the mobo. I cannot even get the mobo to recognize a USB mouse plugged into a PS/2 adapter. -
Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5 on a 785GTM-E45 mainboard post prob
trying to install my Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5 on my 785GTM-E45 mainboard and it wont post i disabled my internal card did every thing directions said to do. cleared my cmos still wont post. so i removed my pci e card and hooked my monitor back up to the main board and nwow that isnt posting grrrrr is there a jumper setting on my board that im not seeing to make my new card work. or how can i get my onboard vga to work agian
ok i got it to work and after about a minute running though my 650w power supply went BOOM so i went out and got a TX850 V2 power supply and it fired right up now im having a problem with hyper threading i see theres a way to adjust it in my bios just need to figure out what to adjust it to
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