790GX-G65: Freeze, IDE issue

Hi,
my 790GX-G65 worked well for ~2 weeks. Problems started then.
1. For some reason, no IDE devices are shown nor accessible in Win XP (SP3, fresh install). This occurred after BIOS update from 1.1 to 1.3. BUT the BIOS sees the IDE devices, and I can boot Linux from that CD drive.
I can see the AMD PCI IDE controller (v5.1.0.8) and also the secondary channel (MS driver, v. 5.1.2600.2180) with settings for DMA etc. The HDD is master, CD/DVD is slave.
Going back to BIOS 1.1 does not fix this problem.
The ATI SB driver (Catalyst 9.6) was installed, but after de-installation it is the same: no IDE drives.
2. More headaches:
Since 1 week the system freezes randomly, when running BOINC (at ~75% load, 2 cores). Today it has not freezed, BOINC was off.
Other symptoms:
-prime95 states calculation errors
-memtest86 sees some errors, but could also run for some hours without error
So, I changed the mem settings to 2T: Freezes. Changed CL from 9 to 10: Freezes.
Memory is GEiL 4GB, 9-9-9 (2 modules, in slots 1&2), Value PC3-10600(DDR3-1333). It is not listed in the provided PDF for the board, but it should work.
CPU is Phenom II 705e (3 cores).
The board is not OC. All settings in BIOS is on defaults (except some settings mentioned above). QnC is on.
All is as it should be (HT speed 2000, bus speed 200, CPU 2500, core voltage jumps up and down)
PSU is a new Enermax 82+, 385W. Should be sufficient; I am using the onboard grafics (sideport only).
All temperatures are mostly below 40 deg C, and currently 27 deg C, without BOINC.
Any ideas? What to return? Board? Mem? CPU?
What else could I try?
ALL hints welcome...
BR, cooper2k9.

Quote from: Bas on 11-July-09, 00:47:47
And who created IO-meter and AHCI?
I believe the same company that pushes it.
As all other benchmarks show better results for IDE, test with ATTO or HDTune.
Hi Bas,
I am aware that intel made IOmeter. And supports AHCI.
Quote from: Bas on 11-July-09, 00:47:47
That's not a lot, should be way above 40MB/sec.
I don't care about numbers, just directions - in this case.
Results of HDTune Pro, on my C:\ drive (500GB ST, NTFS), results for read access:
AHCI:IDE
Min Transfer [MB/s] 53.3:19.8
Max Transfer [MB/s] 109.7:109.6
Avg Transfer [MB/S] 86.2:82.8
Access time [ms] 12.5:12.5
Burst rate [MB/s] 132.7:125.0
CPU usage [%] 8.2:11.1
Pretty accurate tool, imho!
The tendency of both lines over the disk are quite the same, except more spikes downwards with IDE.
CPU usage surprises me.
Have a nice evening
cooper2k9.
BTW: My system seems stable now, with RAM speed @ 1066MHz.

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Thankyou all for replying, sadly though it still doesn't work :(
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Four matched 2GB modules for use in high performance Intel Core i7, i5 and i3 Dual Channel systems
Intel XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) Support
Thats quoted from your link.
Its time to lay your hands on a single DDR3 stick, one of those green ones with the black ICs on them and without XMP. That will be the only way to establish if this RAM is the culprit.
Your mem was intended for Intel based systems and without being able to get into your BIOS you are not able to try and manually set an acceptable RAM speed and timing for your board. Sorry, but change those modules for some memory intended for your AMD board.
See the list of tested modules here. http://www.msi.com/uploads/test_report/TR10_1739.pdf
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My system is:
MB - 790GX-G65
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RAM - OCZ reaper(12800) 2x2Gb 1600
6-6-6-18 1T 1333 1.71v
Vid - (2) Sapphire 4850 1gb
(Stock OC from Sapphire) 625Mhz gpu, 993Mhz ram
HD - Sata samsung 500Gig
DVD - LG IDE DVD +-Berner
PSU - 700w OCZ Stealth Extreme
Mouse/Keyboard - Logitech MX518, Logitech wireless keyboard+mouse
Fans - I have 7 120mm Yate Loon (93 cfm), and 1 200mm coolermaster (150 cfm)
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@websherpa: different board, start your own topic. Do not hijack this one.
Actually, I will post elsewhere if necessary, but I respectfully submit that I did NOT intend a hijack. I did not ask readers to find a solution to my particular problem. I indicated that I have a very similar problem and am seeking a solution through experimentation. My solution may help this users issue. I think it's likely a problem that's not entirely board specific (since I have found numerous posts about this very same issue with onboard Radeon chips and Windows 7 and x64) and therefore an understanding of a solution for any one set-up or combination may result in a solution for all. I provided system information solely to indicate whether there is some common causality. I think it's only really appropriate for the original author to determine whether a post is off topic or not unless a post is obviously way off base (your mileage obviously differs).
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I still didn't tryout what Flobelix suggested since am at my office right now, will give that a try when I reach home.

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I've m-audio firewire 410 sound card and cubase5 (has a usb dongle to work)
before this mainboard I was using K9A2 platinium V2 and Amd 9950 cpu everything was working perfectly
now I've upgraded my board (as you see) and bought a AMD 955
now when I install the sound card driver it's making somekind of digital distortion and also the sound is moving to faster or slower (all the time) so I'M hearing funny voices
The Cubase5 Usb dongle is having some connection problem. It force me to change the usb port everytime I start cubase
I've updated my bios but guess what.... They're still with me.
Please some help
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Quote from: Bas on 19-July-09, 16:39:47
Are the energy settings properly configured for USB and the CPU?
Could be Cubase doesn't like Cool & Quite?
Can Cubase work with quad-core?
Can the powersupply handle everything?
What is in your system, we don't know much: >>Posting Guide<<
Read the guide this time.
My system is
MSI 790GX G65 , AMD 955 BE, Corsair 1600 MHZ 4 GB (TW3X4G1600C9D) , 6 HDD (one is IDE), ZOTAX 9800 GTX+, 750 watt PSU(corsair TX750W)
I've some pci card for my music buss. but i didn't install them yet. Not before everything works fine
Cubase works fine with quad core , my ex-system was a quad core.
the problem with cubase comes this way. I turn on the pc (dongle is on all the time) start cubase and get the message "Connection problem with dongle change the usb port) after I change it everthing works fine. infact I'm not making cubase problem a big deal. my real problem is firewire.
About the energy settings, I didn't change anything on mainboard, why do I need to change the power settings for usb? aren't they standart?

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Corsair 650W PSU (New)
MSI 790GX-G65
AMD Phenom II - Deneb 810 2.6 GHZ with XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 Heatsink(New)
GeForce 260gx(Not in board at the moment)
4x1gb SuperTalent 1333ghz DDR3
500GB Seagate (used to be an external)
64GB Crucial SSD (New, no OS)
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At first I thought it was a power supply so I replaced that and the problem persisted. Usually I would be on my computer, it would hang and I would restart it and everything would be fine for the rest of the day. Some days it wouldn't hang at all and run perfectly fine. I thought that maybe it was a heat issue so I've had my case open with a box fan sucking air out it. I just recently bought a new heat sink for my CPU to sure up any doubt.
Last weekend, I attempted to do some more troubleshooting and updated my BIOS, but my computer really didn't like it. Now it will not boot Windows after POST. I cleared CMOS and tried again but the same issue would occur. I would get into the Windows loading screen and the computer would lock up or it would make it to the login screen but would restart.
I considered the possibility that my HDD, being an old external, might have been the problem so I just recently purchased a new SSD. Last night I plugged in the SSD and in my attempt to load Windows on it, it would completely lock up the same exact way. I've narrowed it down to either being the SATA cables or the SATA connectors to the motherboard.
The two SATA cables that I am using are a bit old. One of them I found in my cable drawer and don't know how old it is or what the gb/s rating on it is. The other cable came stock with the MoBo and I've been using that one since the rig was built. I am going to buy some new SATA cables tonight and try again, but would it be that the motherboard SATA connectors are faulty or something? I was about to buy a new Motherboard but this one is POSTing fine and reading all of my hardware. What other issues could there be? Any help would be very much appreciated.

I was reading about how to install the >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<.
It's saying in step 3:
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If your MSI Retail Board is properly detected and you have pressed the >OK< button in the message box, an option box will pop up that allows you to choose between three different operating modes.
I came across this FAQ:
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->Q: Can I prepare USB stick in another mainboard?
A: * If you want to use method 3 it will not be possible, since Tool will detect different MSI board which uses a corresponding different BIOS.
* If your other mainboard is retail MSI, yes you can.
My current system is unusable which will mean that I'll have to install and create the USB flasher on a laptop that doesn't have a MSI MoBo. Will it still work?

790gx-g65 with phenom quad cpu vin core voltage ?

Hi people I wonder some experts may be able to help me here ?
For weeks and weeks I have been struggling to get my PC to run correctly or boot into windows, I have a 3 boot system Vista,Seven and XP, and had always been using the windows 7 O/S until about three weeks ago when it failed to boot, I managed to get into vista, and XP so assumed something had become corrupt, but noticed XP verry sluggish to respond, and the mouse curser barely reacts, now vista also wont boot, and only accasionally will xp, I have run virus scans, and mailware scans, tune up programs on all drives, disconnected all but boot drive,and taken ram out one by one, but nothing seems to sort out the problem, today I noticed an amd overdrive tool that gives some system stats, and noticed that all my cpu cores run at arround 1 to 1.9 volts, but vin2 is at 154.88 volts, surely not ?, all tempretures appear ok, I'm hoping its a glitch of some type, but if not, how do I change it, or any ideas as to cause and what I may do to get my system back ?
System specs as follows:-
MSI 790GX-G65 790GX AM3 DDR3 VGA DVI HDMI 8 channel Blu-ray audio ATX Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2 GHz
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz HyperX Memory Kit CL7 1.7V
Corsair Performance Series 128GB 2.5" SATAII Solid State Hard Drive
power supply came with case it says :- 500 watt, Raidmax amp ratings :- +3.3 = 28.0a +5v = 38.0a +12v = 22.0a -5v = 0.5 a -12v = 0.8a +5vsb = 2.0 a
Graphics currently on board hd3300
I think thats about all that may be relivent, some help would be grately appretiated

Yes to what Fredrik said about Raidmax, those things belong in a junk box not a PC box. $25 piece of garbage. Fredrik put it too mildly.
Maybe something like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514 Corsair TX650W

MSI 790GX-G65 Colors?

Well, when I was looking around and reading the reviews for this motherboard (MSI 790GX-G65) I noticed that all the pictures and descriptions for it are a brown board with Pink and baby blue DIMM slots - as seen here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130224
When I opened the box for my new 790GX-G65 I was surprised to see this:
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Deep Brown - almost black board with Black and Navy blue DIMM slots. Not baby blue and Pink like the common board.
The SATA sockets are black too. Not Purple as shown in the Common picture.
My second PCI-E x16/x8 slot is the same royal blue as PCI-E x16 slot 1 vs baby blue on the commonly seen board. Also different are the PCI slots; the commonly seen board has white PCI slots whereas mine are black.
Even the 24pin Power and IDE plugings are different: black and blue vs white and yellow. The JFP1 and JFP2 (front panel and speaker connections) are not color coded on mine as in the common one.
A few more pics:
Don't get me wrong, I actually really like this black and blue color combination. It looks more like the 790FX-GD70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130223. I'm just curious why it's different than the brown/pink/baby blue boards. The MSI website states " The product picture may differ from the actual product. Only for your reference", but I haven't seen any reviews or pics with the black and blue combo. Also, on the lower cover of my Manual it says USER GUIDE - EUROPE VERSION. Funny because I bought it and live in California lol. So I would guess that somehow the Frys (see Frys.com) near my house got a European Region shipment. Is that right?
Anyone have this combo too?
Anyhow, I'm happy it's up and running. Just need a good guide on overclocking the board settings for an Athlon II X4 620 CPU. Any tips or links?

Quote from: Fredrik on 28-January-10, 20:42:38
How about this: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1813#
It is the Winki edition you see on that link, very very similar PCB/basic board. So they used one PCB for the picture and one for you.
Yea, it looks just like that Winki version. After scanning through the forums I see others have the same color combo as mine too. So I'm not an exception. Flasing the board to the latest Bios was pleasant and simple.
2 questions:
1) Any way to order the Winki module to plug into my board? Will that work?
2) Any good guides to overclock this board with an Athlon II X4 620?
Thanks for the info.

720 X3 -790GX-G65 and DDR 1600 ?

Hi all , New MSI customer here .
Ok ,So I got me a 790GX-G65 motherboard for cheap from Newegg on a "open box" deal $89.99 . Also got a 4870 1gb "open box" tooo for $129.99 and 4gb OCZ DDR1600 "new retail" for $65.99 (see signiture for model #'s) for a sweet upgrade from my BIOSTAR A770 A2+ motherboard with a 5000+ Black Edition along with 2x1gb Super Talent DDR800 and 3870 512mb .
The 790GX-G65 was still in anti-static bag un-opened and all accessories were there ,only the sticker seal on the box was opened (lucky me) . I used My Power suppy and other goodies like , case , DVD and CD drives from my previous build and could'nt be happier about the performance boost I got for the $$$ spend !
Ok, now that I've tried to give you a little background on the build here's is my issue or question (whichever you prefer) :
I cannot get my memory to run at 1600 regardless of what I do , I could'nt even run 1333mhz stable until I flashed to latest BIOS 1.3 ( board came with 1.1 ) @1333 RiG would run just fine booting up and up to desktop any type of stress at all like multi tasking it would get "flakey" and start pausing and jumping and gaming was out of the question, as the Video driver ( 9.4 BTW )would crash as soon as 3D started . After flashing to 1.3 bios all is well at 1333 and stable in Prime for hours on end with no errors. Games run well tooo ( Crysis all "very high" settings with 8xAA and 16xAF via CCC , smooth as silk @ 1280X1024 in Windows 7 RC ) .
This is what I've tried so far to get RAM up to 1600mhz with no avail . BTW running in Dimms 3+4 (the two furthest from CPU socket)at the moment !
1) changed fsb/dram ratio to 1.4 ............no luck !
2) raised dram voltage all the way up to 1.92 ! ........no luck !
3) set timings to OCZ's specs of 8-8-8-24 (and even set all timings to slowest BIOS would allow)..... no luck !
4) tried lowering HT and NB ratios along with CPU multiplier and raising FSB using 1.2 and 1.3.3 memory dividers to get ram up to 1600 without overclocking the CPU ......... no luck !
5) about every combination of 1-4
and a few other things tooooo , can't remember every tweak I've tried !
I get a post loop that will go on forever and never show anything on the screen when RAM is in dimms 3-4 , and using Dimms 1-2 I make it up to the initializing USB devices ,then get Cmos checksum error, which upon enter BIOS menu it has changed everything to "optimized defaults" without any input from me !
I'm alittle lost as to what to try next ,but I'd sure like to try to get the RAM up to 1600mhz instead of 1333mhz ,regardless of , the performance difference ( I read the post about AMD 1333 vs 1600 performance BTW )
Since the memory is rated to run at that speed ,I'd atleast like to see it run that speed if nothing else .
I don't think Power is a problem as I can overclock the 720 x3 up to 3.8 with just changing the multi to 19x and stable at stock voltage ( ******** ) ,even though 3.9 seems to be the wall with this ( 906 ) CPU ,that I have as no amount of volts will get me over that
Like I said earlier NEW MSI Customer ,,have played with a few older MSI boards ,but they were much older and other folks . This is the first MSI purchase made by myself , so far I 'm liking what I see
Any suggestions ????? Or am I overlooking the Obvious ??
Thanks in advance ,for any replys!

Quote from: Fredrik on 20-May-09, 04:43:58
Do not have this board myself, but it may have to do with the memory used. OCZ memory's name says it all:
" Special Ops Urban Elite "
Much prefer Corsair, and have ever since dear Richard helped me out a thousand years ago.
I've owned just about every brand of memory ( or installed on clients machines ) available to the mainsteam public from retail sellers , I like Corsair toooo ,but was budget building on this build for myself and have used OCZ memory on a few builds for customers and never had any problems whatsoever with their memory .
The main reason I went with this choice on the memory was #1 price verses timings and speed compared to Corsair or Kingston Hyper X ,, Corsair was high dollar and timings were alittle slow in the price range I was looking for ,,,Kingstons timings were slowwwwww and voltage requirements were toooo high for my taste .
From what I've seen , the only difference in these modules compared to OCZ's Gold edition is the heat spreader ,,timings seem to be the same . So I don't believe "Special Ops Urban Elite " means anything other than other than the color of the heat spreader used on it,,which I really could'nt care less about !
Thanks for the input ,,, any and all comments or suggestions are appreciated !

Re: MSI 790gx-g65 no post, no beep (split)

I am in an almost identical situation and it is ruining my christmas. My 790GX-G65 had been running with no problems for several months.
I was running a routine backup and the PC powered itself off - no it was not set to self power off, it had at least 10 minutes left to run.
I have gone through all the usual stuff and now the mainboard is on my test bench with just the cpu/hsf and a stick of RAM.
When I press the power button the fans spin up and leds come on - Does anybody know what the LED indicators indicate? I can find no reference in my manual or searching google. NB1, LED2, LED3 and LED4 light up, LED1 doesn't.
It doesn't post or even send a signal to the monitor - i.e. the monitor detects a cable is connected but is receiving no signal. I have tried using 2 separate pci-e cards as well as the integrated. It does appear to be on though. And it doesn't turn itself off. I left it running for just over 20 minutes and it was in the same state - fans running.
Also now holding the power button won't turn the mainboard off - plugging in an external power button doesn't work either. I have to turn off the PSU to power down the board.
Specs:
AMD Phenom II X4 955BE
MSI 790GX-G65
OCZ 2x2GB DDR3
Corsair HX520 Modular
Xigmatek HSF
MSI/ATI HD4870 1GB
none of it is overclocked and has never been.
I updated the mainboard bios several weeks ago via liveupdate in windows to iirc v1.5.
The only parts I don't have to test are a replacement CPU or PSU. I should be able to get my hands on another PSU tomorrow but anybody who can tell me what the LED indicators stand for would be a real help.
Thanks
Andy

Hey Andy2009,
I seem to be having the same issue with my son's system. We put it together just over a year ago then all of sudden, BAM!!! Just wouldn't boot.
Symptom:
Press the power button, the fans spin up, with the exception of LED1, the remaining LED's light. No video signal is detected by the monitor. Although it appears to be powered up, the system doesn't POST, not a single beep. It just remains on.
Also now holding the power button down for any lenght of time, does not shutoff the power supply. To turn it off you must disconnect the AC power line to the supply.
System Specs:
MSI 785G-E53
AMD Phenom II X4 965BE
ADATA 2x2GB DDR3L-1333G
Has never been overclocked.
According to the user manual, the LED's are indicators for the "NB Phase" and "Active Phase Switching" mode for the CPU. I'm not sure what that means but the chart showing the LED status, shows that LED1, regardless of what power mode the CPU is in, should be lit. As the modes change the next LED# lights. My guess is that something happened to the phase 1 power mode circuitry on the mainboard.
I began troubleshooting by replacing the PC power supply. Disconnected all the peripherals, removed the mainboard from the case, reseated the processor and memory, tried to reset CMOS, etc... By the end of the week, I purchased another mainboard/processor bundle and quickly determined that the mainboard was root cause . The AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE CPU seems to be fine. I'll be sending this board back as an RMA.
I tried searching the internet for POST type issues for MSI 785G-E53 with very little results . After replacing the mainboard, I noticed the 785G-E53 lettering on the mainboard was actually a label, covering the silkscreen lettering 790GX-G65. Did another quick search on-line and found this forum posting.
I know this doesn't answer your question, but hopefully it will help others.
So what does all this mean, that is the "NB Phase" and "Active Phase Switching" LED's?
Thanks in advance,
Normand

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