801.11n routers

Hi all, newcomer here.
I'm interested in FIOS, but my current home network is 801.11n (or is that 802.11n? I'm suddenly confused) based.
From everything I can see FIOS routers are only b/g protocols, which are substantially slower. Since I have quite a bit of wireless networking (and potential interference on the 2.4Ghz band) this seems to be a bit of a problem.
Since I have wireless mice/keyboards on two of my 3 computers, wireless speakers on my one TV, I'm routing files from a media server and have Windows Home server and a wireless printer I really, really would like the bulk of my Internet to be in the 5.4Ghz band.
I'd appreciate any observations you guys might have.
Thanks.

Don't switch. I say that due to service. Do they support other routers? Well, they don't even support their own! I had Comcast. Could use wireless in my backyard. While sitting within 4 feet of therouter, I can't go wireless with Actiontec without consistent "link broen", page can't be found messages. They installed last Monday. Nothing but torture trying to get it working right and working with Techs. Finally got them to agree to send an installer back on Saturday. He walked in and said "I'm no computer expert"...and he didn't have another router. Tried to blame the problem on my pc. Verizon wireless, and more importantly, their service is trash!

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I've been running into this problem since I got my Time Capsule (Jan 09).
Both the Intel Macs (MacBook white old model and Imac Jan 09) have very low (50kbps) network connections over Airport. When connected with a cable speed is normal (2Mbps).
An old iBookG4 has no problem either when connected over Airport (also 2Mbps).
I've tried a fresh install of Leopard (problem was there before Leopard) but even a clean PC has the same problem.
1) Is it possible to turn off the 801.11n on a Time Capsule?
2) Any1 know what possibly to do about this?
I've tried:
- Deleting /library/preferences/system configuration
- adding open DNS
- deleting keys to airport in key manager
- reinstalling computer
- creating network locations (other than Automatic)
- Cleaning and resetting Safari
- Making sure there's a computer name in SystemPrefs/Sharing
- Turning off IPv6
In other words, I'm at a loss.
Please help.
Thanks!
Marco

Hi William,
Thanks.
Well this morning I thought I'd try something else.
I reconnected my old Base Station (the UFO model) and tried to connect to that (letting it run a separate network from the TC). And presto! Internet speed normal (2Mbps).
So I now integrated my old Base station into my WDS network, turned the wireless on the TC off (I know weird) and now everything works just fine (except of course the 802.11n).
I very much think this is a software problem as my notebook works fine on other networks, works fine on cable, my iMac (2009 model) has the same problems, but all the older Macs (old iMacG5 and iBookG4) have no problems. So something is wrong with the 802.11n. It seems to me that the chances that the TC and my MacBook AND my iMac all have hardware problems are really small, so I guess it has to do with software.
Perhaps the combination of 4 different Macs, an iPhone (2G) and two Windows PC on the same network causes a very special problem.
Cheers!
Marco

Retina Macbook Pro PHY MODE not connecting to 801.11n... slow wi-fi!

I've had the Retina Macbook Pro for about 3 weeks and im really getting tired of the slow wi-fi connection this past week! I tried looking at the advanced wi-fi options (opt+click on the icon) and the PHY MODE always says 801.11g. Heres the catch: I did the same thing on my iMac and it says 802.11n!
I tested this in a few ways:
speedtest on the retina macbook: 2-4 mb/s
speedtest on iMac: 12-15 mb/s
speedtest on iPad: 12-15 mb/s
speedtest on friends PC laptop: 10-15 mb/s
Really crappy speeds on the retina macbook right? I'm about to throw this out the window! Also, I resetted my Netgear WNR2000 router to factory settings 2-3 times just to make sure I'm not overlooking anything on there.
Any way that I can change the PHY MODE to 802.11n on the macbook? or should I bring it into apple and have them check to see if the network adapter is faulty?

I have found a solution!
I took the laptop to apple 'genius' bar and they could not figure out the problem. They told me to download mountain lion to see if it would work. Didnt work! So there was one thing left for me to try: BUY A DUAL CHANNEL ROUTER.
After purchasing that and connecting to the 5ghz channel (make sure you're on WPA2 as well) my speeds are fast like my other devices. I'm assuming the laptop is sensitive to these things! Kinda stupid but oh well; makes sense as the channel is clear from other devices on my network.
So if you're still having these problems try buying a new dual channel router. If it still doesn't work, return the router and have apple repair your laptop (or take it back if you still can).

Compatible 11n routers

Hi, I was wondering if any C2D users had enabled their 11n and used it successfully with draft-n routers. I am looking to buy a draft-n router and I definetly dont wanna get the Airport Extreme BaseStation which costs 30% more than 3rd party routers, and is also missing an adsl modem which I require!
Some models I'm aware of are:
Netgear DG834N, WNR834B, WNR854T
Linksys WAG300N, WRT300N
D-Link DIR-635, DSL-2740B
I'm only really asking if you've seen reasonable improvement in perfomance by enabling the 11n (e.g. you can copy huge chunks of data to other computers upto 2-3 times faster, or the signal is much stronger in areas where it was hard to get - i.e. the router's draft-n is compatible with the mac).
If your router is not listed as draft-n compliant, or you don't have a C2D MBP but the first generation MBP, then obviously no point listing your router!
Hopefully this list will be useful to others looking to buy a compatible draft-n router as well.

Apple's new Extreme Base Station.
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Compatible Gigabit Wireless 802.11n Routers?

Hi,
Is anyone aware which currently available routers with gigabit ports & 802.11n are proven to work with .n enabled MacBook Pros?
I realise that depending on where you are in the world, not too many are even on the market as yet but I've read about a few, namely the Linksys WRVS4400 and the D-LINK DIR655 which are available but I can't find out if they will actually work with the MacBooks. Linksys are also bringing out what look like 2 great routers in the near future (WRT350N & WRT330N) but again, who's to say if they will actually work with non-Linksys kit.
Any experiences appreciated.
Cheers
Macbook Pro C2D, 2.33GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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Do 802.11n routers support SRX?

I currently have a WRT54GX (with SRX). Some computers that need to connect to the router are currently too far away to connect via plain vanilla 802.11g. I got SRX cards for them and they work great.
I now want to upgrade to a pre-N router, but I don't want to have to buy pre-N cards as well. My question is: are any of the Linksys pre-N routers backward-compatible with SRX?
Thanks!
Santiago

yes , the N-devices are backward compatible with the SRX devices , because they both work on the same technology i.e MIMO ( Multiple Input Multiple Output )...i hope this answers your query...

Other 802.11n routers?

I know the "n" is not standardized yet but almost every company has their own router out already. For the most part, are they interoperable? Do you have to have Apple's "n" router to use with APPLETV or can you use a Belkin, Netgear, Lynksys or D-Link (at "n")? Will my MacBook Pro equiped "n" work with some other brand router at "n" speeds?

i've had problems with a wrt350n and my macbook pro.
After getting the new router and installing the 802.11n update, my wireless connection would drop out after a few minutes of use. Even the latest airport update doesn't fix it (although it makes it last a bit longer before it dies).
I'm using the dd-wrt firmware in my router, and haven't tried tweaking the settings on the router yet - i'm told that might help a bit, but i'm not exactly sure which things to change.
So for now, you might want to wait, or just go with the apple solution.

E1200 - only 54 mbps Wi-FI with 801.11n notebook and slow download

Hi all,
I have got the E1200 router and Asus X54H notebook (Win XP SP3, 2.30 Ghz, 3 MB RAM).
I have configured the router properly, created the Wifi network, and when I put the cursor on the wifi network sign I see only 54 Mpbs signal. The router is located RIGHT NEAR the notebook.
Moreover, when I download from torrents with about 40-50 seeds, I get only 700-900 kbps download.
With my old 54 mbps b/g router and notebook I had about 2 mpbs download speed.
For Your info. I plugged the cable from router LAN port to notebook (cable connection) and did the Speedtest.net.
Here are the results:
donwload speed : 46.84 mpbs
upload speed: 26.81 mpbs
The link: LINK
So You see my cable channel is ok.
Please help! I will appreciate very much!

Make sure your wireless encryption is WPA2-AES for speeds over 54Mbps.

801.11N on CoreDuo MBP's?

Do you think Apple offer an airport card upgrade in order for this models to work on the new standard?

But I didn't think they would
release a version that was so radically different
from its predecessor that it would render it obsolete
in the wireless department.
I'm suprised to see so much negative stuff about the lack of N/pre-N in MBP. Personally, I don't know why so many people want to use it. In the UK the highest consumer internet connection is about 8Mbps, I still have a 384Kbps internet connection because I'm not paying silly money for hidden download charges and usage limits.
Even if you have 8Mbps internet connection:
Wireless b = 11Mbps
Wireless g = 54Mbps (up to 108/125Mbps with proprietry speed boosters)
Wireless n = Who knows? (who cares in my opinion)
I still use a wireless b router. The internet will always be the bottleneck. If you really really need to copy Gb ang Gb of data from computer to computer on a regular basis from different places then yeah sure. Otherwise if like me you only copy that amount of information maybe once or twice a year when you're upgrading a computer then just plug in an ethernet cable or a crossover cable.
My C2D MBP doesn't even connect wirelessly (something I have been speaking to apple about) but I'm not that bothered as a 10/100/gigabit ethernet connection is excesively fast and I'm only really going to need it if i take it out of the house. Calling something obselete when it ****** all over anything microsoft have ever done is going a bit far especially when it's just wireless, which as I say worked 10 years ago but is becoming steadily more unreliable as the big companies don't want to agree on any standards and always find ways to make you use there propriety technology (speed boost, range boost, MIMO etc) all pointless unless you have a T1 connection or spend you life moving tens or hundreds of Gigs wirelessly.

Is Actiontec Rev F better than Rev E for 801.11b/g?

My area only has 20/5, so getting a 801.11n router (such as Actiontec Rev F or Rev G) is not going to change the internet speed, at least on paper.
But, today, I borrowed a friend's 802.11n router and had it piggybacked on my Actiontec Rev E. Surprise, surprise. Using speedtest.net, I could clearly see a boost in the download speed of about 30~50%! So while my 20/5 package is too slow to accommodate a 801.11n protocol, at least it looks like I can gain siginificant speed by getting a different router.
So, is Actiontec Rev F going to deliver such speed boost in Wifi? Does Verizon let you change your routers? (At least they make you pay for Actiontec Rev G, but all I'm looking to do is to upgrade to Rev F for now.)

we've had bad luck getting upgrades to routers. they do a like for like return exchange thing. people have gone through endless hours and frustration trying to circumvent that process with limited success.
It's probably better to look on ebay for a REV I or buy one from verizon. It is dual antenna, True wireless N (not pre-n) and has gigabit ethernet ports.
https://teleproducts.verizon.com/fios/

AirPlay speakers...where's the 802.11n??

So I'm in the market to get some whole home audio going in my house. I've researched all of the various methods to do so (wired + receiver, airport express + speaker + amp, airplay speakers, bluetooth, etc) and I think I'm going to settle on getting AirPlay speakers. I just don't want to mess with wiring everything up and doing the AirPort Express thing....plus AirPlay speakers are actually cheaper than doing anything else. Granted you don't get the flexibility, but it's still a better budget decision.
In looking for some good AirPlay speakers, the only budget options ($150 or so) are Phillips and iHome. I've found both on eBay for around $80 a pop depeding on the version. Anyway....what's the deal with the AirPlay speakers only having 802.11b/g? I was getting ready to pull the trigger, but now I'm thinking I won't because of 802.11n becoming the standard and b/g will be going out the window soon. My wifi router supports the legacy frequencies, but I don't want to buy speakers and then in 2 years they are obsolete. I know I know, go with the airport express route. Well I'm open to suggestions at this point, but I'm just curious as to why the speaker manufacturer's are bundling b/g into their NEW products?

I had a similar concern: an airplay speaker only support 11g, not 11n. I did some study and made my move and hopefully it helps by sharing what I did.
Study:
The major chip inside airplay speakers comes from one single vendor: SMSC (lately got bought by Microchip). It offers 11b/g and not 11n. No firm schedule on 11n, it takes time to make a speaker from a chip
Most 11n routers support 11b/g too. So playing music to 11g airplay speakers shall not be a problem; but it will affect your internet speed as some old routers will downgrade to 11g (which is 54Mbps, not too bad).
The new 11ac routers with multi-bands (2x2 or 3x3) can be a solution to this with ability to have separate channel for 11g airplay and other channel for 11ac internet browsing.
My Purchase:
I did not buy any airplay speaker as it is over $100 my budget. Instead, I bought Yamaha PDX-60 dongle speaker which uses propietery RF technology which happened on sale at Amazon at that time. I did a check at Amazon store as I write and they are gone already. (relief: as I do not want to be sounded like sales :-)
Hope it helps//

WVC80N with non-Linksys Routers/AP's?

I just bought this IP camera and have not been able to connect it to my Netgear WNHDE111 801.11n access point. However, the camera connects just fine to another AP on my network, the Linksys WAP54G. Are there any incompatibilities that I'm not aware of? It's not the security, access filter, key or anything like it; I triple-checked everything. One possible reason might the Netgear's frequency: it operates at 5GHz; what about the Linksys cam? Any suggestions why this won't work?

Just solved my own problem: the WVC80N does in fact operate on the 2.4GHz frequency, so go with the Netgear AP. Dangit, how much research does one have to go through to make sure devices work with one another!!!!

High Definition - is 802.11N Draft standard fast enough for streaming?

My understanding, from what I've read, is that 802.11n draft standard is actually only running at 50% speed of the actual final 802.11n protocol that will be out in a couple of years.
If Itunes starts selling HD content or I import an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc to Itunes, is the 802.11n fast enough to be able to stream this content to Apple tv? Has anyone tried this?
Thanks!

My understanding, from what I've read, is that
802.11n draft standard is actually only running at
50% speed of the actual final 802.11n protocol that
will be out in a couple of years.
No. No idea where you got that idea. Right now the Wi-Fi alliance is "certifying" 801.11n Draft 2.0 devices. It is called "draft" simply because it won't be formally approved until 2008, given the normal standardization schedules. Between draft and approved final there may be changes, but they are usually minor, so much so that sometimes a firmware update may do the job.
If Itunes starts selling HD content or I import an
HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc to Itunes, is the 802.11n fast
enough to be able to stream this content to Apple tv?
Has anyone tried this?
First of all, don't expect iTunes to provide HD-DVD or Blue-Ray format files any times soon (I mean expect years before you see that). These are 1080p formats, which are NOT supported by the Apple TV. Apple TV does support content with a maximum resolution of 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps, which can be considered "720p" HD content, though not at the full cable frame rate.
Yes, Apple TV can stream this content. I have converted several HD programs captured from ESPN (which broadcasts in 720p), converted them to H.264 at 1280x720x24fps using MPEGStreamClip (http://www.squared5.com/) and stream them to my AppleTV.
You can find several samples here:
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Wireless Connectivity Issue with 802.11n.

We have a 5508 Controller and sixteen 1142 APs.
Several of our laptops were experiencing connectivity issues over Wireless. Older laptops that do not support 11n are not having any problems.
I disabled 802.11n for both 'a' and 'b/g' in the Controller. Now the newer laptops connect with no issues.
They would in fact connect to the APs while 11n was available, just no Internet Access - (cannot ping DG, etc). Disabling/Enabling the laptop WL adapter would allow brief access (sometimes), but they'd quickly lose Internet Access once again.
Our WLANs are configured for WPA2/AES.
This looks like a 802.11n configuration issue at either the Controller or the Laptops (or both). Both are using the Default settings for 801.11n.
Any recommendations for correcting this? Are there best practice guidelines for configuring 802.11n?
Thanks.
- Jay

Configure 802.11n on the WLC
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/ps6366/products_tech_note09186a0080a3443f.shtml

WRT54GX4 upgrade to 802.11n

Since both the SRX 400 routers and the 802.11n routers are MIMO based, has any thought been given to offering firmware upgrades to the new 802.11n standard for customers with the WRTGX4 and the PCI Card SRX 400? I've invested a lot of money in these systems.
Thanks,
Jeff Rollins

hi....MIMO is a technology used by both the srx and n router...while the wireless standards are different for both of them.....wrt54gx4 works on wireless-g standard and n routers work on wireless - n standard......so i don't think that it is possible to upgrade the devices with different standards....

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