802.11g dome + New Airport Express?

I have an older Airport Extreme (dome) in my office. My kids use it for their iMac (about 20 feet down the hall) and my wife for her Macbook Pro. The network strength is just awful and my kids are constantly coming into my office and trying to move the dome into a better position to increase signal strength. I went down to the Apple store and bought an Airport Express, figuring I could use that to extend the range of the network and I thought that's what I had done, but looking at it now, it says "join a wireless network as opposed to "extend a wireless network". It doesn't allow me to extend the network. Hmmm..
What are my options here?
Do I need to get a newer Airport Extreme?
Can I simply use the Airport Express as the "main" Airport and create a new network using that instead of the old dome extreme?
Is there some way to take advantage of both the old dome extreme and the new express to get a decent wi-fi network going in my house?

Do I need to get a newer Airport Extreme?
Yes, if you want to use the AirPort Express to "extend" the wireless network using wireless only. The Express would need to be located where it can receive a strong signal from the AirPort Extreme.
Can I simply use the Airport Express as the "main" Airport and create a new network using that instead of the old dome extreme?
Yes, but you won't be able to use the old AirPort Extreme at all, so you'll still only have one wireless device producing a wireless signal with limited coverage.
Is there some way to take advantage of both the old dome extreme and the new express to get a decent wi-fi network going in my house?
Yes, if you connect the AirPort Express to the AirPort Extreme using an ethernet connection. The best way to do this is run an ethernet cable from the AirPort Extreme to the location where the AirPort Express will be used.
If you can't run the ethernet cable, a pair of ethernet powerline adapters could be used to allow the AC powerline in your home to conduct the pseudo ethernet signal.

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I'm about to replace my airport express base 802.11g with a new airport express base 802.11n.
Is it difficult? Is there a guided procedure? Is there something that I should ABSOLUTELY NOT do (or ABSOLUTELY DO) before, during and/or after the replacement?
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Hi there,
I'm about to replace my airport express base 802.11g with a new airport express base 802.11n.
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... But I assume that in this mode I'm still limited by the speed of the old 802.11n device, which is between me and the router and modem.
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John, thanks for the email so quickly.
I too hope I haven't tried "everything" either but I am reasonably technical. I had done what you suggested to do before but I did both again.
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I have tried the assist me menu and Network Status has Ethernet Green, Network settings Yellow, ISP Green, and Internet and Server Red and Failed for both. I have turned things off and on, checked cables, deleted all locations and tried restting them up but to no avail. I even disconnected everything and connected the mac directly into the cable modem itself and the thing still will not connect.
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Why have apple not launced new airport express 802.11ac version

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Do you think they will launch one soon as wanting to extend my WI-FI network but don't want to purchase current Airport Express 802.11n version if a new model is due to be on sale in the near future as would prefer latest models/technology.
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Why have apple not launced new airport express 802.11ac version, when recently launching new Airport Extreme Base Station and new Airport Time Capsule 802.11ac versions?
Do you think they will launch one soon ......
Sorry, but no one here on a user-to-user support forum will be able to tell you what a notoriously secretive company like Apple will do or when they might do it. We are all users.....just like you.
You would need to ask Apple about this, although I would be very surprised if you get an answer with any real information.
http://www.apple.com/support/contact/

I would like to replace my old AE 802.11g with new version 802./11n - How do I connect

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Sorry, just to make sure: Do you want the older 802.11g Express just for iTunes streaming or (in addition) to extend the wireless range of the newer 802.11n Express? If it is the latter, you may want to reconsider doing so as the only way to extend with "mixed" base stations is with a Wireless Distribution System (WDS).
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Hello all!
I'm hoping someone can answer this, as I'm about to tear what's left of my hair out - or throw the new Airport Express out the window!
I have an existing D-link 2100 AP (802.11g 2.4ghz) access point. It connects to my wired LAN and serves a few wireless units (wife's PC, iPad, iPhone4, AppleTV2) flawlessly. Yesterday I bought a Airport Express with the intention of hooking it up to the stereo in the kitchen and use it for AirPlay.
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I can find it in the AirPort utility and configure it, but when it restarts after config it never connects to the WLAN. If I hook it up over ethernet with my switch I get access to it again, and it complains it can't find my WLAN.
When I configure it to "join existing network" I can sometimes see my SSID in the dropdown box, sometimes not. I have the correct encryption settings and password, and all other Apple devices connects right away.
The DLINK log doesn't show any entries with the AirPort Express MAC adress
Tried turning off the "G" mode, doesn't help.
Tried changing channels, doesn't help (but the AE seems to notice the changed channel, weirdly enough)
Tried setting it as completly open network, WPA, WPA2, Personal/Enterprise doesn't help.
Only thing I've not tried is to extend the existing network with WSD, as my understanding is it doesn't really work with non-Apple products - maybe I'm wrong?
I suppose getting a Apple Extreme base station would sort all this out, but does someone have any thoughts on this problems before I give up the D-link that's worked flawlessly for several years?
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Patrik

Hi,
I had a similar problem setting up the Airport Express through by existing router. The problem in the end was the encryption. I had to do a manual setup (in the airport utility). My router has a 10 digit hex key, and uses WEP; this requires the express to use WEP 40bit. Once I'd done that it was ok. I can stream to the express via my router from my iPhone4
Also, when it had the wrong settings I had to do a factory reset to get the apple network to appear again. The instructions for this are wrong in the manual. You have to turn the express off, hold in the reset button and turn on. Keep the button pressed and the light starts flashing amber quickly. Keep held in until this stops flashing, and release the reset button. Then you need to wait for around a minute before you see the device in the airport utility. If it's still not there, manually change you network to the apple one, if it's in the list of available networks in whatever OS you're using.

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Hi all. I have an old Airport Express 802.11g (First Gen?) that is starting to fade. Still works, but not what it used to be. So I am going to buy a new Airport Express. I'm not interested in the Airport Extreme.
Question: If I use the new Airport Express as my main wireless router, can I plug my old Airport Express into another room as an extender? In other words, with the old Express and the new Express talk to each other or will a new Express only allow extension with another new Express?
Thanks!

Sorry, but the old AirPort Express 802.11 b/g does not have a setting to "Extend a wireless network", so it cannot be used as a extender with the newer AirPort Express if you plan to connect wirelessly.
If you plan to connect the older Express using a permanent wired Ethernet cable connection, then it could be configured to provide additional wireless signal coverage in that manner.

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How do I set profiles in the new Airport Express (802.11n) base station. I checked every tab in Airport Utility but couldn't find it.

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o Open AirPort Utility, select your AX from the list, and then, click "Manual Setup."
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o Click "+" to create a new profile; give it a name, and then, click OK.
o Set options, such as network name, passwords, Internet connection method, etc.
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To switch profiles:
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Can I use an old Airport Extreme as an extender with a new Airport Express

Hi All, I have Verizon Fios and the data line runs into my bedroom. I purchased a new Airport Express today to replace the Airport Extreme (from 2006). Can I use the old Airport Extreme as an extender (I'd like to set it up in the basement as I get poor connectivity there). I tried using the Airport Utility - Other WiFi Devices to find the Airport Extreme, but it's not registering. Is what I'm attempting possible? If so, how do I set it up?

Can I use the old Airport Extreme as an extender
Is this the "round" or "dome" shaped AirPort Extreme?
If yes, then it is not possible to have the AirPort Extreme wirelessly "extend" the signal from the AirPort Express.
However, the older AirPort Extreme can probably be set up to provide more wireless signal coverage if it will connect back to the LAN <--> port on the AirPort Express using a permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection.
In this case, the setup of the older AirPort Extreme will require that you have an older version of AirPort Utility installed on your computer. If it is a Mac, then the Mac must be running Leopard (10.5.x), Snow Leopard (10.6.x), or a PC with AirPort Utility could be used to set up and configure the older Extreme.
f you have the "square" or "flat" version of the AirPort Extreme, then everything becomes much easier. Post back if you do.

Brand New Airport Express-Green Light Wireless, Dead Green Wired

I just bought a brand-new airport express device. I have a cable modem connected to a dual band AirPort Extreme base station in my basement. My house is wired with Cat5 Ethernet cable. In a far bedroom, I am replacing an airport express-N (previous model) that was hard-wired to the Extreme. Always worked perfectly in extending and supplying 2.4ghz band wifi to that part of the house. I bought the brand-new AirPort Express to utilize the dual band bridge.
After many hours of trying, this new airport express will only work properly if I do not plug in the Ethernet cable. It seems to be performing well, but i was under the impression that an ethernet cable should be used to physically connect the AirPort devices each other.
Currently, in this wireless setup, I do have both bands available. I feel that if I used the cable, I would have much stronger better signal.
Interestingly, when I do ether-connect the airport devices together. My AirPort Utility looses all of my AirPort devices and shows (with a yellow dot) that my Internet (modem) is not available. At the same time, all of my AirPort devices continue to show a green light. I am unable to connect anything with any of my wireless devices.
Also, when everything seems to be working fine, my AirPort Utility does depict the wireless set up with a dashed line between the two AirPort devices representing that it is wireless connection.
With my last AirPort Express, a wireless set did extend the range, but only while slowing everything down. An ethernet cable, when introduced, made everything work perfectly, during which time the AirPort Utility depicted that setup with all solid line indicating wired connectivity.
I would appreciate any feedback from anyone who might be able to tell me why when I introducing ethernet to the new AirPort Express, it takes down the entire wireless network.
Hi, of course, try all of the normal troubleshooting suggestions. I recycled all devices I have rebooted everything.

It's always a good idea to do a complete power recycle when switching out network components ...
Try the following, in order, checking for Internet access after each step, until resolved:
1. If the modem has a reset switch, use it to reset the modem. Wait at least 5-10 minutes for the modem to initialize.
2. Remove power from the modem. If it has a backup battery, remove this as well. Wait 5-10 minutes. Replace the battery, and add power back to the modem.
3. Perform a complete power recycle of your network components as follows:
Modem/Router Power Recycling - Quick
o Power-off the modem, 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn), & computer(s); Wait at least 5 minutes.
o Power-on the modem; Wait at least 5 minutes.
o Power-on the AEBSn; Wait at least 5 minutes.
o Power-on the computer(s)
If this fails to get the modem to "recognize" the Internet router, then try the "Full" version.
Modem/Router Power ReCycling - Full
o Power-off the modem, AEBSn, & computer(s). (Wait at least 30 minutes. If possible, leave the modem off overnight.)
o Power-on the modem; Wait at least 15 minutes.
o Power-on the AEBSn; Wait at least 5 minutes.
o Power-on the computer(s)
4. Contact your ISP to have them perform a "modem reset."

Can't configure a new Airport Express or my old one

Hi,
I just purchased a new Airport Extreme today and I cannot get it set up. I keep getting an error message that states "An Error Occured While Reading The Configuration"(Make sure your Apple Wi-Fi base station is plugged in and in range of your computer or connected via Ethernet and try again. -5). It also gives me the same error message when I try to re-configure my old Airport Express. I've tried numerous re-sets and have tried connecting it to my Airport Extreme Base Station(802.11n) via ethernet to no avail. I also tried to install a firmware update on my new Airport Express but that failed shortly after the download. I was hoping the firmware update might fix the configuration error. I use the Airport Express's to extend my network and have successfully set these up before so I don't know what the problem is. I'm using an iMac 3.06, on OS 10.7.1, which is connected to my AEBS via ethernet.
Thanks!

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New Airport Express - interfering with home wireless network?

I have an IMac and laptop PC both connected to a wireless home network. I plugged in the new Airport Express, and ran a Toslink cable to my home stereo. My intent is to stream music from the IMac.
When I plug in the AExp I get a flashing amber, then the green light, then flashing amber. I asked the AExp to "join" my network. Soon after the first green light the home wireless connection is unavailable to both my IMac and PC laptop. If I unplug the AExp then the laptop PC reconnects to the network. With the AExp unplugged I also must have "Turn On AirPort" on the IMac to have the internet status as "connected".
Basic problem: when I plug in the AExp both home computers disconnect from the home wireless network.
Any suggestions to getting the AExp to work within the home wireless network?

First, perform a "factory default" reset on the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) to get it back to its "out-of-the-box" configuration.
Then take a look at the following steps to be sure that nothing was missed:
AirPort Express Base Station (AX) - iTunes Setup
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Wireless Security: <select the encryption type of the existing wireless network>
Wireless Password: <enter the existing wireless network password>
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