802.11n in Power Mac G5?

Hi,
Now that Apple have released the new AirPort Extreme Base Station, and released an enabler app for those Macs with an 802.11n card/circuitry in, what options are there for those of us with older Macs?
I'd like to buy the new AEBS and use it with my Power Mac G5 Dual 2.5GHz and 17" MacBook Pro 2.16CD, but there's no point if there is no way of expanding my Power Mac to use it.
Is the AE card in the G5 user-replaceable, and is there an option I can buy to put 802.11n capability in my computer?
Cheers!

this may sound like a silly suggestion, but a temporary fix is to connect the router to the G5 through the gigabit ethernet connection. i don't know of any way to upgrade to "n" as of yet, though if anyone knows i'd be interested too and the Apple TV gizmo seems pretty ineresting.

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AirPort Extreme 802.11n for older Macs?

Are there any plans for Apple to release some sort of upgrade for older Macs so that we can use 802.11n wireless networking?
I have a Power Mac G5 (2.5GHz DP) and a MacBook Pro 17" Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo), so the hardware in my Macs doesn't handle the 802.11n specification. (Please note that I'm not talking about the software enabler. That's not going to work on older hardware.)
Are there plans for new AE cards that can be swapped into the G5s or an ExpressCard 34 card for the laptop?
(And why oh why does the UK government not allow wide channel? UK consumers are stuck with only a 2.5x speed increase, whereas US consumers get the full 5x speed increase.)
Thanks!

802.11n refers to a speedy wireless connection. When
you connect with a wire, you're not using 802.11 at
all. You're using Ethernet, and your Core Duo mac
will connect to the Airport Extreme at 100Mbs (a
little faster than the top speed of 802.11n). Then
The top speed of 802.11n is considerably faster than 100Mbps. In narrow band mode, the Airport Extreme cards are connecting to AE Base Stations (AEBS) at 130Mbs. In wide band mode, 270Mbs. In theory, that makes connecting to the new AEBS device wirelessly faster than via the wired ethernet. It's a design decision that just doesn't make sense in my opinion.

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This is what's on the power supply.
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But don't you think the Airport Express would make a better travel router? After all that's what it's designed for.

Upgrading to 802.11n on older Mac Mini

I have 2007 802.11a/b/g Mac Mini Intel Core 2 Duo and a few questions:
1) How can I get 802.11n on this machine?
2) How much improvement will I see going from a/b/g to n?
3) Will this enabler do the trick? http://store.apple.com/us/product/D4141ZM/A
4) How about this USB adapter? http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/MXP2802NU2C/
5) How about getting a Airport Express and connecting to its Ethernet port?
Any and all suggestions would be appreciated!

2) How much improvement will I see going from a/b/g to n?
What you do will determine if you'll see any improvement. For example, if you're only surfing the net, checking email, you may not see any improvement as your speed limit is with your ISP and not Wi-Fi. Many people have "basic" broadband which is less than 10Mbps. This is around 802.11b speeds. So upgrading to g or n will not get you any improvement.
If you're trying to share files between multiple computers within your own LAN, then you may see an improvement going to n. But it may only be noticeable with moving very large files. (i.e.: movies instead of Word documents.) Potentially it could help if you're viewing movies in the iTunes library on another computer (since it's all on the LAN and not through your ISP.) Listening to music from another computer uses less bandwidth so you likely won't see any difference between g & n.
4) How about this USB adapter?
5) How about getting a Airport Express and connecting to its Ethernet port?
Either could get you 802.11n, if you need to speed up your LAN. The USB adapter is straight forward, but it does require you to add a driver. Newer Tech's website shows the driver for 10.3, 10.4 & 10.5, but doesn't specifically mention 10.6.
Airport-to-the-ethernet port would work and wouldn't need drivers, but does require some skill configure...at least require a willingness to try. It's not that hard, but many people are put off by networking.
Me personally, I'd prefer not to have to install drivers since a future OSX update could affect the driver. So I'd be going with the Airport-to-ethernet option. (Actually, I'd be going with wired since you'd get 100Mbps or 1000Mbps (depending on the equipment), which is as fast as the real-world speeds you get with 802.11n (or faster) and has much less configuring than Wi-Fi and less susceptible to radio interference, and I do move very large files to the server on my LAN...but that's just me. )

HT1998 what is the latest update for Airport Express 802.11n with the Mac OSX10.6.8

what is the latest update for Airport Express 802.11n with Mac OSX 10.6.8?

You can find out as follows:
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click the AirPort Express
Click Manual Setup
Click directly on the word Version (3rd line)
If there are any updates, you will be notified.
If there are not any updates, you have already have the latest firmware.

AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler for Mac 4 use with Touch?

Hello,
I have a 2nd Gen Touch with the latest updated software. I use Airport to connect to the internet on my new iMac 24". Will the AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler software now offered in the Apple store($1.99) for Mac improve communications between the Touch and my iMac?
Thanks

Nope. Your touch is still limited to b/g mode wireless. In fact, if you have an all n network, your touch won't even know that it exists.
Most of your Mac to iPod communication is via the USB cable unless you are using Remote or other applications that can move files on and off.
BTW, that software is to enable early intel Macs to use N wireless. If your Mac is relatively new, you won't need it.
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AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler for Mac

I just downloaded the enabler for my 20" iMac and when I try to install it, it states "Your computer does not meet the hardware requirements for this update." It's my understanding that only the 17" iMac and the Mac mini aren't supported. Anyone else experience this?

If you recently got you imac and it's a core 2 duo, check if you already have it installed using this quote form appleinsider.com
The company recommends that customers check to make sure that their Mac does not already have the 802.11n enabler installed before purchasing the software patch. To do so, Intel Mac owners should open the "Network Utility" application (found in the Applications > Utilities folder), choose "Network Interface (en1)" under the "Info" tab, and then inspect the information provided under "Model: Wireless Network Adapter." If it says "(802.11a/b/g/n)," the Mac already has the 802.11n enabler installed. If it says (802.11a/b/g), the Mac does not have the 802.11n enabler installed.

802.11n on new Mac Pro

Hi there,
literally just got (yesterday) my new Mac Pro.
I have a NetGear DG834N router and modem compatible with draft 802.11n
The question I have is two fold...
Upon starting my new Mac Pro I bought and installed the tiny software patch from Apple that Enables 802.11n. Upon running I get a dialog that tells me that,
"your computer does not meet the hardware requirements for this update"
Does anyone know why or what's going on here...??
Second, when I go to the network utility, only on 'network interface (en2)' do I see that it has 802.11 a/b/g/n...
My question is, how can I tell if I'm running 802.11n....?? Do I have to change anything...?? Or does everything sound in order...??
Many Thanks in advance.

I don't have to change anything elsewhere...?
Nope, if you connect to an 11n capable router it should connect using that format.
Say the router/modems menu etc...?
That yes, though the default setup should have 11n enabled. You should check anyway.

Benefits of 802.11n with old Macs

I have a couple of reasonably old Macs (1.25GHz iMac, 500MHz Powerbook) which seems to be running more slowly these days when going online. I have a network using a Snow Airport and an Airport express which is probably 5 years old now but has been incredibly reliable.
Would upgrading to the latest versions of Airport Extreme and Express give me a substantial benefit with these old machines or is it time to get a new computer?

I'd work with your current network. Even though you are using B/G you still should be pretty quick. I have mine set to N+B/G and my B/G devices outrun my N devices.

Set up of Airport Extreme 802.11n Wi-Fi / Mac OS 10.6.7

I am trying to set up an Airport Extreme (and I have done this MANY times before) but it get a warning dialog that the the Airport doesn't have a valid IP Address and the Yellow warning light is showing. What is strange is that I have connected a Cisco E2000 wireless to the same modem and it's working perfectly - out of the box. I have tried two different Airport Extreme's and the same is happening on both of them. I've never had this issue before so I am at a loss.
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James

Have you performed a complete modem reset and power cycle of the network?
Push the reset button on the modem (if present) and power it off
Pull the battery from the modem if it is easily accessible
Power down everything else on the network, order is not important
Wait 30 minutes (some service providers will take longer for their equipment to reset back at the main office), so allow 60 minutes if you can.
Install the battery back in the modem if needed and make sure you have a good ethernet cable connected from the modem to the WAN (circle of dots icon) port on the AirPort Extreme
Power up the modem first and let it run for a few moments by itself
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Power up other network devices the same way
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802.11n ... what if you did not custom order the card?

I've now read a few threads regarding 802.11n support for Mac Pros, but I'm still a bit confused. At the time of purchase, I didn't see a need to drop in an Airport card right away, and opted only for the Bluetooth module.
Now with the announcment of 802.11n support and the new Airport Extreme Base Station (with AirDisk support) ... I am considering going wireless.
Now, I just assumed I would be able to purchase an Airport card after the fact, like with any previous PowerMac, but now I can't find a mention of doing so in any of the DIY docs or the Mac Pro manual. Is it not possible for me to install an Airport card anymore? If so, why wouldn't Apple make this clear on the product or Custom Configuration page ?
And if I were to get whatever module is needed for the Mac Pro, will it support the N protocol ? Is it not just an Airport Extreme card?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ken
Quad Xeon 2.66 Ghz w/ Radeon X1900 XT Mac OS X (10.4.8) 1024 Mb RAM, Built-in Bluetooth

Thank you all for your replies. I also found this on the Apple Store listing for the Airport Extreme Card.
"This AirPort Extreme Card is not compatible with the Mac Pro or the Power Mac G5 Dual and Power Mac G5 Quad computers introduced in October 2005. To add an AirPort Extreme card to one of these systems, please contact an Apple Retail Store or other Authorized Apple Service Provider. "
I really didn't expect this of a "Pro" machine, but now I worry I'll have to pay an additional cost to get it installed. Let's hope Apple plays nice.
Quad Xeon 2.66 Ghz w/ Radeon X1900 XT Mac OS X (10.4.8) 1024 Mb RAM, Built-in Bluetooth

802.11N and D-Link DIR-655

Hi,
Recently bought the D-Link router in order to improve wireless performance on my network.
The router is set up to use 802.11G+N. The current speed is 54Mbps and using the G setup.
However I wold like to use the N implementation thereby getting speeds of 135-150 Mbps (works well on my PC). I have tried a lot of things on the router (changing various wireless settings, changing encryption etc.) but nothing helps.
Has anyone achieved N speeds with a Macbook and any D-Link router? If so how did you do it?
Hope that you can help me...
- Jan -

Happy New Year Jan!
First check that your MacBook is n enabled.
Open the utility "Network Utility" and using the "Info" panel check the settings contained in the Network Interface selector - (en1), mine shows "Interface Information" and at the bottom of the list is "Model: Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g/n)"
If it is n enabled, as mine is above, have you tried it when the router is set to operate as n only?
If not n enabled, but does have Core 2 Duo processor, read the "Overview" for this Apple Store item:
AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler for Mac
http://store.apple.com/us/product/D4141ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Mg&mco=MTA4NTc4NzE
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Slow wireless connection 802.11n AEBS and Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro

I have three Macs all currently connected wirelessly to the new 802.11n AEBS.
Mac #1 - PowerMac G5
Mac #2 - 17" MacBook Pro Intel Core Duo
Mac #3 - 15" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
The wireless connection speed (when using the web browser) is fine for both Mac #1 and Mac #2 but noticable slower for Mac #3. All three Macs are sitting right next to each other. All three Mac are getting an excellent signal. All three Macs are running the same version of the OS. All three Macs have identical network setting (as far as I can tell).
When connecting Mac #3 to the AEBS via an ethernet cable, performance is good. I've also tried configuring the channel manually in the AEBS to channel #1 but this did not help (seemed to help others in a different thread). Additionally, I ran the 802.11n enabler and performance was bad both before and after its installation.
Any idea why the Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro would be performing differently?

Ok eveyone. I did some digging and was able to get the network speed back with my Core2Duo machine. I put the Airport Extreme into Bridged mode and connected the Ethernet cable to one of the LAN ports, not the WAN port. After that everything works great. for more information check out this lengthy thread...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3989864&#3989864
and this site mentioned...
http://www.macintouch.com/reviews/airportn/#performance
Apparently the new base stations have a few issues that need to be worked out so I'd consider this a workaround. There should be no reason to have to do this. Good luck.

802.11n Enabler for MacBook Pro not included

Apple's page about the Airport Extreme Base Station says, "Most new Mac computers ship with built-in 802.11n wireless support that can be easily enabled with the installation of enabler software included with new AirPort Extreme wireless base station (see sidebar)."
Yesterday I purchased the Airport Extreme 802.11n WiFi Wireless Base Station (Model MB053ZA/A A1143). I have installed it OK and it is running fine. But I now want to "enable" 802.11n on my MacBook Pro but can not figure out how to do it.
I have searched everywhere through the box and looked everywhere on the one install disk (disk version 2.1 2Z681-6107-A) but I can not find anything that looks like enabler software for the WiFi network card in my MacBook Pro 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo. The en1 page in Network Utility shows Model: Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g).
How is the enabler normally shipped in the AirPort Extreme wireless base station package? On a separate disk? On the install disk? As a free download?
Regards
Peter

I have searched everywhere through the box and looked everywhere on the one install disk (disk version 2.1 2Z681-6107-A) but I can not find anything that looks like enabler software for the WiFi network card in my MacBook Pro 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo.
There were several MacBook Pro models with 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo processors. Your computer must be have a Core 2 Duo processor to qualify for the enabler.
How is the enabler normally shipped in the AirPort Extreme wireless base station package? On a separate disk? On the install disk? As a free download?
There is only a single installation disk that is provided with the base station. The enabler software is located within the AirPort.mpkg package. There is a download, but it is not free. (ref: AirPort Extreme 802.11n Enabler for Mac)

802.11n enabler (AirPort Extreme Update 2007-001/2007-001 update)

Hi,
I'm thinking of getting time capsule and then getting the 802.11n enabler.
On the UK apple store(http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=17BDE0AD&fnode= home/shopmac/mac_accessories/airportwireless&nplm=D4141) it states i need the AirPort Extreme Update 2007-001, but I can't find it.
On the US store (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?find=en abler) it states i need the AirPort Extreme Update 2007-002 update. I found that one and downloaded it but when trying to install it says "This volume does not meet the requirements for this update".
What do I need to to get this update??
Do I already have it??
Am I even able to get 802.11n??
Any help will be welcomed
For clarification these are my specs taken from system profiler.
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB

So it looks like I can't get 802.11n on my mac then. Oh well, good excuse for a new mac.
The apple store is quite misleading then it says you need either:
MacBook Pro with Intel Core 2 Duo
MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo
Mac Pro with AirPort Extreme option
iMac with Intel Core 2 Duo (except the 17-inch, 1.83GHz iMac)
I have the latter iMac with Intel Core 2 Duo (2.16Ghz), will probably get time capsule anyway though.

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