802.11n Router / 802.11b/g wireless card & speed

Will I see a significant increase in speed/performance if I upgrade just my router to 802.11n, or do I need to swap out all my cards/adapters as well?

It is better to swap the wireless cards/adapters to 802.11n along with the router if you are looking for better speed/performance.

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I have an eMac which I want to connect to my home wireless network. My router is D-Link-601 tech 802.11n. My emac is wireless ready but does not contain an airport card. Do I need a card and an airport station? What else?

I have an eMac which I want to connect to my home wireless network. My router is D-Link - 601 tech. 802.11n. My eMac is wireless ready but does not contain an airport card. Do I need a card and an airport station? What else?

You need the Airport card OR Airport Express but not both. Considering the age of your machine, I recommend Airport Express as you will find other uses for it whenever you replace the eMac.
To set up the AE, you do need OSX 10.4 or higher.

Can I use an airport express to extend a Cisco E4200 802.11n or 802.11g wireless network?

Can I use an Airport Express to extend a Cisco E4200 802.11n or 802.11g wireless network? I'd like to improve access in a dead spot with an airport express. I know I can connect this wayt for airplay, but how about extending the signal?
Thx! ACB

Apple's "extend a wireless network" function appears to be a proprietary feature that works only with other Apple AirPort routers. As far as we know, this feature is not compatible with devices from other manufacturers.
It would be extremely unlikely that the Express could do what you want, but some things are never known until you try.

Wirelessly extend range of 802.11N router / ADSL modem?

Hiya - hope you can help!
I already own an 'N' spec airport extreme but am currently looking to buy a new router / ADSL modem as my old Netgear DG834 recently got frazzled / scrambled insides and refuses to work.
Ideally, I'm looking for an ADSL modem with combined 802.11N wireless router that can have its range wirelessly extended by my airport extreme.
Does anyone know of any particular brand or model of ADSL router (802.11n) that will allow this? Is it possible?
Also, whats the difference between 'Participate in a WDS network' and 'Extend a wireless network' the the Airpot Utilities settings?
Many thanks
Stef

Thanks for the reply.
So with an airport extreme it's only possible to extend the range of other apple equipment?
No other's manufacturers hardware is compatible with Apple in this way?
That's a shame. So it's kind of pointless buying a wireless router / modem if I intend to still use my existing Airport network? I may as well go for a cheaper wired ADSL router and tether that via ethernet to my airport extreme....
OR would it be better to ditch the apple wireless hardware completely and create a network using a wireless ADSL router?
Eitherway its a little disappointing that there's no way to use the equipment wirelessly with each other.
Can an Airport Extreme even join a third party wireless network and bridge that through its ethernet ports (like an airport express)?
Thanks
Stef

¿Tengo wifi 802.11n o 802.11b?

Hola, hace una semana compré el AIO C560. En las especificaciones indica:
Tipo de Wireless LAN: 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
Pero el problema está en que en las propiedades del equipo no me aparece 802.11n Preamble sino 802.11b Preamble.
Tengo 200 megas de jazztel (fibra optica) y el pc está a 20 metros del router con 2 paredes por medio. Me marca 10 megas y descargando lo hace a 800kb/s.
¿Sabeis por qué me aparece 802.11b en lugar de 802.11n? ¿Si apareciese la "n" tendría más velocidad, o por lo menos más alcance (2 barritas de 5).
Os adjunto una imagen: http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/lenovo-c560-1126859.html
Gracias

I think I found my answer here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4199
Apple is still beyond this tech!
Routers that support 802.11n should be configured for 802.11a/n mode for maximum speed and compatibility. Routers that only support 802.11a can be left in 802.11a mode. Different Wi-Fi routers support different radio modes, so the exact setting will vary depending on the Wi-Fi router in use. In general, enable support for all modes. Devices will then automatically select the fastest commonly supported mode to communicate. Note that choosing a subset of the available modes will prevent older devices from connecting (for example, 802.11a devices will be unable to connect to a Wi-Fi router in 802.11n-only mode). In addition, choosing a subset of the available modes may cause interference with nearby legacy networks, and may cause nearby legacy devices to interfere with your network.

I have an 802.11n router, but MacBook Pro Link Speed shows 54mbps...

…any idea how I get to to connect at N speeds?
I know some old Macs had to buy an "N Enabler" app from Apple, but I didn't think my Mid-2010 i5 17" MBP needed it.
The router is a Netgear DGN3500 and is set to "Up to 270Mbps" (the other options are "Up to 130Mbps", "g only" or "b/g".
Thanks

Ok, I realised my router was set to WPA security.
I then read the following in the router's setup page:
"WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key ) - use WPA-PSK standard encryption. This option is only available for the g & b wireless mode.
WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key ) - use WPA2-PSK standard encryption. This option is only available for the g & b wireless mode.
WPA-PSK + WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key ) - use both WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK standard encryption. A high performance client like the NETGEAR WN511B must connect using WPA2-PSK in order to achieve maximum performance. Wireless clients that connect to this router using WPA-PSK will run at no more than 802.11g speed."
I took that to mean that in WPA mode, you can't get faster than 802.11g. But in WPA2 mode, you can get to 802.11n.
I switched to WPA2, and low and behold, the PHY Mode is now "802.11n" and my Link Speed is 144Mbps. Still nowhere near 270mbps, mind you!

Airport Express 802.11n vs 802.11b

Just purchased Apple Express 1084 (802.11b) on ebay. It seems to be working fine, green light comes on when connected to the Ethernet. But I wonder if I am struggling to get it connected due to the fact that I have Windows 7, and it requires 802.11n instead. Any thoughts?

The 1084 version of the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) supports both 802.11b & g on the 2.4 GHz radio band. The fact that you are running Windows 7 DOES NOT require it to connect to 802.11n wireless networks only.
Does your PC actually connect to the local wireless network? That is, can it "see" other network client but just cannot access the Internet?

Cannot Connect Airport Express 802.11n to WEP 64 Bit Wireless Network

I am currently use a Netgear MR814 who's only built in security is WEP 64bit.
I am attempting to connect my Airport Express 802.11n to it and I see the WEP 40 bit option and use that and it puts in my password for the wireless as 0xPASSWORD.
However it is unable to connect to the network. I scoured these forums and attempted the "$" escape character and the "" option by none of these work.
Is there a way for me to configure my AE to be able to connect to my (older) wiresless router?

I found information indicating that this airport express must be set up by airport utility 5.6.1, but that version is not supported by Lion.
AirPort Utility 5.6.1 is not supported by Lion....it was designed for Snow Leopard.
You need the correct version of AirPort Utility 5.6 for Mac OS X Lion
Give the correct version a try and then please report on your results.

Problem with AE 802.11n when linking to Linksys Wireless G

I've been reading the posts over the last couple days. It seems like there are a lot of people with the same issue of connecting the new AE n to an existing g network.
I'm hoping someone has a magic answer before the hard reset button wears out
The problem after a manual setup
- "AirPort Utility was unable to find your Apple wireless device after restarting.", AE's signal is then not recognized by Mac
- continues to Flash amber (it always Flashes amber)
- hard resetting of AE after each attempt with AirPort Utility 5.3.1, same response after attempt as stated above
Network Spec's
- Linksys Wireless - G ,2.4GHz 802.11g
- trying to join or extend wireless with the AE 802.11n
- MacBook 2.2 GHz
- Signal strength is strong
- WEP 128-bit, 26 characters hexadecimal password
- when entering password I've tried hex escapes "$" and "0X" before the password as per http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1126
- AE works fine when creating WPA/WPA2 Personal network, but I need to also sync with PC that I can't upgrade or change from the g configuration
- I've even returned (& exchanged) one AE n to make sure the unit was not defective
Think I've covered everything here. Borrowed the last AE g model and it set-up in a second, no problem. I have a simple system... this shouldn't be this difficult?
Any help would be appreciated!

CagCog wrote:
I've been reading the posts over the last couple days. It seems like there are a lot of people with the same issue of connecting the new AE n to an existing g network.
I'm hoping someone has a magic answer before the hard reset button wears out
The problem after a manual setup
- "AirPort Utility was unable to find your Apple wireless device after restarting.", AE's signal is then not recognized by Mac
- continues to Flash amber (it always Flashes amber)
- hard resetting of AE after each attempt with AirPort Utility 5.3.1, same response after attempt as stated above
Network Spec's
- Linksys Wireless - G ,2.4GHz 802.11g
- trying to join or extend wireless with the AE 802.11n
- MacBook 2.2 GHz
- Signal strength is strong
- WEP 128-bit, 26 characters hexadecimal password
- when entering password I've tried hex escapes "$" and "0X" before the password as per http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1126
- AE works fine when creating WPA/WPA2 Personal network, but I need to also sync with PC that I can't upgrade or change from the g configuration
Could you clarify this? WPA/WPA2 vs. WEP is about security options, whereas n versus g is about something different (to do with the way the wireless network itself works, I think). At any rate, WPA/WPA2 is not opposed to g - my network is pre-n but uses this form of security.
- cfr

I have AirPort Express 802.11n and ATT DSL Pro. The speed at the ATT modem is 4 Mbps however the speed at my computer, ipad, and ipod touch is only 1.7 Mbps. The ATT tech came out and said the slowdown is being caused by the AirPort router. Help!

I need help with the speed of AirPort Express and ATT DSL.

I just discovered this, and it seems to have solved issues with my Time Capsule.
Open AirPort Utility; select your AirPort Express and choose manual setup.
Click >Wireless
Change Radio Mode to 802.11a/n - 802.11b/g
Click >Wireless Network Options
Change Transmit Power to 50%
Check >Use interference robustness < This step is purely optional. It's worth a shot.
I've been noticing issues with performance of my Time Capsule for a while.
It really started with lack of good range, followed by lousy performance with my iPhone 4 and iPad 2. I was lucky to get 10% of what my speed really is (1.5 Mbps vs. 15.9 Mbps). My iMac was the only thing that seemed unaffected.
I attempted to setup a Sony Media Player (stay away from them- junk!) then a Roku XD in my bedroom only 20' down the hall from the Time Capsule (direct line of sight). Signal kept dropping and performance was lousy for both. I want another new Apple TV for the bedroom, but that TV doesn't have an HDMI port. I ended up running an ethernet cable down the hall... until this morning.
After some digging, I found a forum talking about WiFi performance for iPhones and stumbled upon something kinda basically unrelated, but gave me the idea to dig into AirPort Utility a bit deeper. Changing power to 50% didn't sound logical, but lowering output power was mentioned in the forum. AirPort Utility goes from 100% to 50% then lower. Nothing between 50% and 100%. I'll know more about range later today, but I have a feeling it may be mysteriously improved as well.
Hope it works out for you!

tv + Netgear RangeMax Next 802.11n Router

How can I get confirmation that I am truly streaming to my tv with 802.11n from the Netgear? There's no way in the menu (either on my iMac or in the tv) to tell. The router has had it's 802.11n 2.0 firmware upgrade.
Also, I have a Powerbook, 802.11g, on the 802.11n network occasionally. Does that make my network downgrade to "g" only when he PB is on the network or all the time?
Last question: How do you enable the iMac ad hoc mode with tv. I have enabled it's 802.11n capability.
Any help would be great!
Message was edited by: Darksol360

How were you able to choose? I went to the update Firmware (posted Aug. 2007), and it was supposed to bring 802.11n draft 2.0. Yet, I'm not seeing a noticeable difference with syncing content to the tv.
Also, I think there was an option in the frimware page to select to different types of 802.11n. One thats strictly "n" and a combo "b/g/n" choice. Is that what you were talking about?

Configuring WDS w/ Airport Extreme Dual-Band 802.11n & Express 802.11g

I currently have an Airport Extreme Dual-Band 802.11n Model: A1301 (located downstairs) and an older Airport Express 802.11g Model: A1084 (located upstairs) which I had been using to stream iTunes to my upstairs stereo (which worked flawlessly). Recently a friend of mine recommended that I reconfigure my network to a Wireless Distribution System setup which would allow me to create a remote wireless node which improves my wireless signal strength upstairs, allows an interface to Airplay to play our music from our iPod's/Pad's and also provides an hard-wired Ethernet connection for my newly delivered Network Extender for my cell phone. So I followed the URL: support.apple.com/kb/HT4262 to assist in this conversion and found that I was unable to configure my network as desired. While this documentation is very good, there is one snafu that I worked out that finally allowed a successful setup. Follow the instructions for:
- Connecting a WDS main base station to the Internet
- Configuring a WDS main base station
- Configuring a WDS remote base station (See last line of instructions for the correct WDS Main ID)
Ensure all Wi-Fi base stations are powered on and allow them time to appear in the AirPort Menu Extra.
From the AirPort Menu Extra, select an 802.11g Wi-Fi base station to configure as a WDS remote.
In AirPort Utility, select the WDS remote Wi-Fi base station in the Base Station Chooser, and click Manual Setup.
Select the AirPort icon from the Toolbar, and click on the Wireless tab.
From Wireless Mode select Participate in a WDS network.
Click on the WDS tab.
From WDS Mode, select WDS remote.
Enable Allow wireless clients (see the first note below).
If not already supplied, enter the 2.4Ghz AirPort ID of the WDS main, then click Update.
There are two Apple ID's for the dual-band Extreme (2.4 & 5.0Ghz). Be sure to use the 2.4Ghz ID which is listed under the "Summary Tab" of the utility. What is confusing is that in the AirPort Utility, when you position the mouse cursor over the graphic of the Extreme on the left-hand side of the GUI, you are presented with a yellow dialog box which displays the 5Ghz ID and this can be misleading especially when you are trying to connect to an older 2.4Ghz Express ...

My Express is the A1264 802.11n model. My Extreme is the A1354 model.
The most crucial issue is the the Tivo, because the Premiere only works with Ethernet (I dont' have and wont' buy the upgraded wireless doohickey), but of course I would prefer that the Express also act to extend the signal, and I particularly want it do so using WEP access (or nothing, see below), since I have a second Tivo which ONLY works wirelessly and which ONLY works using WEP, not WPA.
Since there were so many different issues and needs going on, I was excited about the Dual Band because it meant I could potentially get 5G speeds for my iPad and perhaps the Tivo Premiere connection, while allowing a completely separate band for the OLD Tivo.
The other option I've been trying out (to accommodate the Tivo2 that can't handle WEP) is having no security, but making the networks hidden.
A third option I tried to make work was to create a "guest network" for just the Tivo2.
But what I'm finding out (it's what I always struggle with...networking is a nightmare.) is that if you take one from Column A, Column B disappears, so to speak.
The way it used to work on the non-dual band Extreme was as I mapped above, and the Tivo2 and my iPad used the wireless signal with no problem while the Express was Ethernet connected to the TivoPremiere, but it did so using WDS, which doesn't even seem to exist as a possibility, forget teh fact that it undermines the speed boost (so I read)
I've frankly never been able to understand the differences between the various modes and structures, and believe it or not I'm very smart and very comfortable with computers and Macs, having worked on them for 25 years.
And one of the biggest reasons I've had such a hard time is because of the many times that I have updated after making changes, Airport Utility tells me it worked, but nothing happens and then after too much frustration I end up unplugging and shutting down every single piece of equipment and rebooting everything and then it DOES work. Sometimes. But I can't be doing that every time I make one tweak, I'll go insane!
And the number of pin-resets I've done on the Express, the Dual band, and even the cable modem would make your head spin!
So there's my story. Kinda. Does it make any sense? At least in terms of my goals?
Your help is more appreciated than you can imagine.

Airport Express 802.11n and 802.11g clients?

Hi,
I hope this is the right place to ask this question.
Setup:
1. At this time I have a main AE 802.11g base for wireless surfing.
2. I have a second AE 802.11g connected to the hi-fi system. This second AE station is connceted as a client into the wireless network of the main AE base.
Question: could I keep this setup after replacing 1. with an AE 802.11n base (and keep the AE 802.11g client for streaming)?
Thanks you,
Andre

I would still have one more question.
Are theses assumptions correct?
1. If the AE 802.11g client is switched off, the network will work at full speed (802.11n)
2. Turning on the AE 802.11g client would slow down the network at 802.11g level
3. switching the AE 802.11g client off again would lead to a recovery to full speed 802.11n
I am asking this because I do the music streaming only occasionally, must of the time I am using my MBP for work,
Thank you,
Andre

Radio Mode "802.11n only", "802.11n (b/g compatible)" not available anymore

Dear All,
Today I was checking my AE config (7.3.2) with Airport Utility 5.3.2 (532.8) and I realized that there are no 802.11n modes available anymore... Usually it had two options, "802.11n only" and "802.11n (b/g compatible)". I cannot find also the frequency option (2.4 or 5GHz), probably because this should be available only for n modes.
I would apreciate some help here
Thanks in advance!

Is your Extreme / Time Capsule up to date?
See these updates:
Airport Extreme
Time Capsule
Just a thought, and hope it helps.
Also what choices do you see in the Radio Mode menu when in AirPort Utility / Extreme (or Time Capsule) / AirPort / Wireless / Radio Mode?

How do I connect my laptop to my Linksys wireless router through the internal wireless card?

I just purchased a gateway laptop and was trying to hook my Linksys wireless router up to it. Ive gotten it hooked up but only through the secondary device (that catches the signal)... I was wondering if there is anyway that I could make my internal wireless internet card a point or no? Can I only connect it to the USB network adapter or is there really a way to go COMPLETELY wireless? Thank you for your time...

Is your internal wireless card enabled? Go to device manager and make sure it is enabled.
Chuck

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