80GB iPod + USB/FireWire Cable

I'm going to be buying a new iPod (80GB model). I currently use my iPod mini with my XBOX 360 but I've run into a problem; my XBOX 360 isn't always on so my iPod isn't always charging via USB.
I have to constantly switch between charging via the FireWire wall charger and using it on my XBOX 360. If I forget to switch it at night my iPod wont be charged for the trip to work the next day.
I'm fairly certain the USB 2.0/FireWire combo cable will allow me to have one dock connected to both my XBOX 360 and my FireWire wall charger, but I've heard a lot of stuff about current generation iPods dumping FireWire compatibility so I thought it would be best to check here before I buy anything.
Will this setup allow my new iPod to continuously charge even while connected via USB to my XBOX 360?
I plan on going overboard when I buy this new iPod so if this wont work I'm welcome to other ideas even if it means spending a heap more on extra cables and adaptors.
Thanks.

What doesn't have a dock connector? The Mini or the cable? I think they both have dock connectors.
That cable is the one that came with the third generation iPod which added USB syncing to the line up but didn't hook up the +5V and GND connections on the dock connector for the USB cable so you could sync with USB but not charge. That Y (or V) cable was meant for Windows users so that could plug in the iPod and then the USB side went to the computer to sync while the Firewire side went to the (included with the iPod back them) Firewire wall charger.
So I think that cable would work with the new 5th generation iPod but the problem may be is the USB power lines in the cable are connected or not (the missing power lines on the 3rd gen iPod was at the iPod's doc connector). If both the USB and Firewire sides of the cable are hooked to the power lines of each type of connection there MIGHT be a conflict if you plug them both in and you are getting both +5V USB power and +12V Firewire power to the iPod at the same time. Likely either one of the connections would work fine by itself though.
It would be nice if someone with that old cable and a new iPod used it to hook their iPod up via just the USB side of the cable and could report back if the iPod charges or not which would verify if the two power lines are present in the cable.
Patrick

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My masking tape lables get gummy after a while. I don't know if it's the heat coming through the cables or just the unstable nature of the tape in the first place, but it gets all gummy and nasty after several months.
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I at last want to buy me an iPod but ...
Since the iPods are USB 2.0 now & my Mac has USB 1.x & FW 400 , you understand for using the iPod as an external & preferred bootable HD I need a FW connection to the Mac ( for data transfer ) & if i read correct this splitter cable only uses the FW for loading the iPods Battery. If so this means i still need to connect via USB for music / data transfer & the bootable HD option ain't there .
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Tue Fredholm, "Another vote for Adaptec 4300", 07:52am May 26, 2005 CDT
Paul Boudreaux, "Adaptec 4300 Firewire...... A MUST HAVE", 04:20pm Mar 22, 2005 CDT
urbanproject, "2 thumbs up for the Adaptec 1430", 07:43am Aug 8, 2005 CDT

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For the differences in the specifications (yes, there are several types of FireWire connector), you may wish to do a quick search of your favorite search engine. You will find many articles at various levels of technical detail. One will, I am sure, be appropriate.
There was a time when all available iPods were FireWire based and could not even use USB. But as a relatively small percentage of PC users have one, keeping the iPod FW only would have hindered its availability to mac users and PC users savvy enough to install a card in their PC. Now, all current iPod models are USB only.

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