865 P neo 800 FSB issues?

I'm working on a system with an 865 P neo mobo, 2.4 P4 with 800 FSB. The default is 166 on the FSB in the bios, and the chip only shows up as 1.99 ghz. When I change the fsb to 200, it posts, and starts to load the win xp splash screen, then reboots. Anyone else having similar issues? I've already tried different boards and cpus, so it's not a hardware issue. Bios version is 1.1 042503.
Any thoughts ir similar problems, please post.

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Originally posted by Ironweaver
THANK YOU!
Man, I spent most of the day on Friday swapping out parts to try and find a bad one. That\'s what I get for not questioning the lousy company I work for, we tagged that board as 800 fsb on our sku label. I guess the \"800 edition\" that MSI put on the box doesn\'t help any either. Thanks again; next time I have an issue I\'ll post here before I spend too much time on it.
My guess is that MSI printed '800 series' on the box to show it's compatible with 800 FSB CPU's (which seem to work, only slower as intended).

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Quote from: Stu on 19-November-09, 03:13:51
You mean when you press the power button, lights come on and fans start spinning, but there are no beeps and there is no display?
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After messing about quite a bit with this board with various CPU's and Memory, reading comments by other users and OC'ers on other boards, it seems I've come to the bottom of the problem with my Memory / CPU issue's on my board.
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CPU: Intel E6550 / E6600
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Quote from: skip741 on 15-October-08, 05:46:56
Hi Unicron, read ur post and thought id give you some feedback.Im the guy who originally posted the 417fsb wall thread.I beleve these boards with the p43 chipset Do indeed have something going on which limits the higher fsb speeds seen by p45 series. Id be interested to hear if Any one with a p43 version msi board has achieved speeds beyond 415-417. I know the p45 chipsets have gotten thru the 500fsb barrier.I had tried Every bios available for my p43 neo3-f board and EVERY possible bios setting and yet never got beyond that 417 limitation. Voltages raised in cell menu have No effect on getting thru it. board is strong and stable Up to that point, then 1 mhz beyond there is no post or freezing as it enters desktop.Ultimately after spending 3 weeks intensive trying everything and scouring every forum and msi tech for advice, to no avail, i just gave up on it and returned my board to manufacturer. I purchased another brand of board and went right thru that fsb wall with same hardware and cpu.i was able to achieve 535fsb no problem. I had tried to post "which" board i went with before on this forum but was censored heavily for trying to do so. I guess such sharing is Not allowed. Moderators take that as promoting "other" manufacturers boards and frown on it.My intent was only to share what i learned and help others. So i have to keep that info to myself sadly.. anyway thats my 2 cents, my name is Paul. good luck !
Yes, I think we discovered the same thing:
The MSI P43 Neo boards don't go over 414, 415 or 417mhz FSB.
Nor do various other brands. I must say I haven't found/read about a P43 board that does. But I guess if you claim there 's such a board, it must exist.
I'm done looking. Next time I'll buy a higher end board. Low end CPU + Low end board OC isn't a very good idea. I should've gone with a X48 MSI DDR2 board + E9650.

P43 neo-f fsb wall at 417 with e8200

with the p43 neo which i believe there identical too p43 neo 3 apart from cooling on motherboard and bios versions(layout same ,features same,chipset same) ,anyway I will hit a 417/418 fsb and will become totally unstable and freeze on me(while using dual core centre) or if using bios overclocking will reboot until it goes back to defaults, have also tried everything voltage wise, have dropped multipliers and it is definitely a motherboard fsb wall issue.
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Things I have tested
with only 2/4gb of ram
all conceivable variations of mch,vfsb,ich mem voltage etc (have not messed with clock drive and skew etc as i am not aware how they effect things)
dropping cpu multi to 7, then raising to fsb of 417 again results in restarting until defaults etc meaning board is hampering overclocking.
upping voltage to cpu-this results in absolutely no better overclocking as it is mobo stopping higher clocks.
Bug I noticed- sometimes on booting into windows after a few minutes with an overclock through bios the mch would show the mch as 2.57v in the dual core centre(i reset to defaults in dual core centre whenever it happens) dont know if this is a bug with bios or dual centre the mch in bios I have set it to is 1.35v, id imagine if it was actually at this voltage it would crash out and fry wouldnt it? but dosent seem to affect anything.
dual core centre often also shows a 1.9 voltage on my memory when it is set to 1.8 in bios, i again reset to defaults in dual core centre and appears to reduce voltage.

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with the p43 neo which i believe there identical too p43 neo 3 apart from cooling on motherboard and bios versions(layout same ,features same,chipset same)
As I already told you elsewhere, these boards are not identical. They are similar as they use the same chipset, but they are not identical.
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while using dual core centre
Don't use Dual Core Center if you are looking for a stable overclock.
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if using bios overclocking will reboot until it goes back to defaults, have also tried everything voltage wise, have dropped multipliers and it is definitely a motherboard fsb wall issue.
Which settings have you used. Please write down ALL Cell Menu settings you used for the highes stable overclock you were able to achieve so far.
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A-data 800mhz ram 8gb (I have pretested in anouther machine upto 900mhz at 1.8v)
That does not mean much. Different board, different chipset/memory controller, different BIOS usually mean different overclocking behaviour. As soon as you go beyond 400 MHz FSB-Clock Speed you are overclocking your 8GB of DDR2-800 memory which is likely to be a cause of instability. Have you raised the memory voltage at any point above 1.8V?
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dual core centre often also shows a 1.9 voltage on my memory when it is set to 1.8 in bios, i again reset to defaults in dual core centre and appears to reduce voltage.
Uninstall Dual Core Center, it is not the best tool every conceived by men.
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This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=116635.0

Hello Aacko,
the P31 Neo is a budget board that is not really designed for overclocking (notice the red PCB). The P31 chipset supports DDR2-667 and DDR2-800 memory modules. With a FSB-200-MHZ-CPU installed, 1:1.66 and 1:2 are exactly the ratios you need to get your RAM to 667 MHz or 800 MHz.
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Can I do something about this or should I swap P31 Neo to some P35-chipset mobo that would allow more flexible FSB/DDR ratio settings?
If you really want to overclock, you should go for a P35 Platinum or P35 Neo2-FR/FIR board.

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All!
I know some basic things to OC my system but I've got a very simple question:
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