865 pro and mce 2005

Has anyone try Microsoft MCE 2005 on the new 865 PRO?
Can you use a mce-certified tv card in combination with the "power off" radio function?
Is the onboard graphics card 128mb and mce compatible?
thanx

the megapc 180 has an onboard radio function, has then 865 pro the same funtion? or is in included in the tv-card. So only radio function without pc modes is important for me.
Quote from: Dr Stu on 03-August-05, 06:26:20
well, i can tell you that the onboard graphics are NOT mce compatible, so you'd need a compatible AGP card
as far as i can tell, the InstantOn feature (i presume thats what you meant!) only supports TV with MSI's own card (which would appear to be some sort of Winfast card, which itself isn't MCE compatible)
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Quote from: Tav on 02-March-05, 18:52:34
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