865G-Neo2-LS and celeron 2.4

I recently purchased an 865G Neo2- LS in combination with a celeron 2.4 GHz Processor.
In installing the pair, the D- Bracket stated that no CPU was installed/ damaged processor (all four LED's Orange). ;(
In looking at the BIOS files I see that version 1.3 was released recently which supports the 24 multiplier needed by the celeron 2.4. Is the d bracket stopping at all four LED's lit the behavior to be expected of BIOS release 1.2 with a Celeron 2.4?
Before I go chasing down the wrong path I wanted to understand how the mobo would react if it has Bios Rev 1.2-
( would the rev initially installed be stamped on the chip? )
Thanx for any info you might have-

The CPU controls the multiplier so I would be very surprised if it wouldn't run, but you can try a slower CPU just to be sure.

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