865PE FIS2R Problems

I just built a system that includes a P4 2.4c cpu, the 865PE Neo FIS2R motherboard, Corsair 1 GB Twin 3200 C2 ram and an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro video card.
Most of my problems seemed to stem from the ATI card. But now, I can't even download Adobe Acrobat Reader from the web without getting file errors. I tried installing a game and received similar errors. I have already reinstalled Windows XP twice. I did flash bios to 1.3 and perhaps that is the source for the instability.
I've decreased my Bios setting to "SLOW" and upped the DDR voltage to 2.7. I came across a thread that stated Corsair C2 ram had problems with the 865P chipset and that they recommended their LL modules.
I think I'm going to have to RMA both the MSI board and Corsair ram and replace them with more stable products. I'm not really trying to overclock but chose this board from the many reviews I've read, including the review from Tom's Hardware Guide. I'm even tempted just to buy the Intel board for stability purposes.
For the time being, I've dropped the memory clock to 333mhz and will probably try OCZ 3500 ram instead.

I'm not quite sure what you want in terms of system specs, but I'll state what I know.
MB: 865PE NEO FIS2R BIOS 1.3
CPU: P4 2.4c (Not overclocked)
FSB: 800mhz
Ram: Corsair 3200 C2, 1gb @ 400 mhz. Times as listed by SPD were 2.5-3-3-3-8.
Bios: Slow setting
OS: Windows XP SP1 and with all recent updates
Video: ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
HD: WD 80 GB 7200rpm ATA100
The reason I would consider returning the Corsair ram is that I shouldn't have to step ram speed down to 333 mhz when it's supposed to run at 400 mhz. I came across a thread on this website that Corsair has known issues with the 865/875 chipsets and that they recommend low latency ram instead of the C2 ram. I've noticed OCZ 3500 seems to run well at 400mhz according to posts in the MB vs ram thread.
While installing Red Alert 2, I received several errors which said that there was a problem writing files. I've had this harddrive for over 6 months now and never had a problem with the P3550 Asus P3B-f system I was using.
While doing the 2nd install of Windows XP, I had file errors as well. This leads me to believe the RAM is unstable at 400 mhz because I don't see any other explanation for that behavior.
As to whether stepping down to 333 mhz has solved the problem, I plan on doing another install of XP today now that I've stepped down the RAM and will hopefully end up with no errors.
When I first setup the system, the MB Bios was 1.0. I didn't feel I was having problems until 1.3. The reason I had done a 2nd reinstall of XP was related to the video card and once i found out Red Alert doesn't work with HT on, that issue seems solved.

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I recently bought the MSI 865PE FIS2R board with an Intel P4 2.4Ghz 800FSB CPU.
The problem that I am having is that my Buffalo 3700 DRAM speed is detected as 333MHz. Is this correct? Sandra says that I am only using 166Mhz per channel.
I am not able to get the RAM to be 400Mhz dual channel.
However, when I used my bro's OCZ 3200 RAM, they detect at 400Mhz.
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Originally posted by Assaf
Did you disable the \"by SPD\" settings so you can change them manually ?
Assaf, I am still not able to change the DDR Clock(MHz) setting from the Frequency/Voltage Control menu.
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I am aware that I could change the DDR Clock(MHz) setting indirectly by overclocking the CPU Bus Clock(MHz) setting above it.
However, I am more interested in how I could get this Buffalo 3700 DDR RAM to detect with a 400 MHz DDR clock like my brother's OCZ 3200 DDR RAM.
If there is a way to change it manually differently that what I have described, perhaps you could elaborate a little more?
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NO SOUND / S-Bracket or On-Board / 865PE FIS2R - HELP!!!

Hi everyone, I need some help PLEASE!!!
I have a HUGE problem, the machine I have has been running really sweet. Everything is new except the old sound card I was using (Sound Blaster Live Value), anyway the machine worked perfectly as was assembled but my brother-in-law called me and told me he really needed my sound card. I was like cool, I'll give him mine, install the S-Bracket and use the on-board sound for 2 or 3 weeks then I'll get a really nice sound card like an Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum or Pro. So I went through the manual and check list. I removed my card and installed the S-Bracket. I've done everything correctly but am getting no sound. I made sure to enable Audio 97 in the BIO but still nothing, I also removed the jumpers recommended by bio when installing the S-Bracket
I haven't even been able to install any drivers and now am unsure if I'm even using the right disk that came with my 865PE. There's 2 disk, one called the Super Pack which has Photoshop, WinDVD, etc . . . so I'm assuming it's not in that one. Now the other one is the MSI Drivers and Utilities Disk. Under the MSI menu I can't find anything for sound. But if I explore the disk I find a sound folder. Well I've tried installing every driver listed but am getting the ERROR (Not equiped with this Audio chip, etc . . ) IF ANYONE has had a similiar problem or seen a very similiar post please let me know. I REALLY would like to get my on-board sound working. I don't have the cash right now for a new sound card.
THANX, Guru
3D Mark01 SE Score - 16464
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Motherboard - MSI 865PE-FIS2R - Bio 1.7
CPU - Intel P4 2.8 Ghz 800FSB - OVERCLOCKED to a 3.15GHz
Memory - Kingston Hyper X KHX3200AK2/1Gig PC3200 400MHz 2-3-2-6-1
Video Card - eVga Nvidia FX5900 based 128mb (non Ultra) 420MHZ/920MHz
Sound Card - Creative Sound Blaster Live Series
HDD - 2 40gig Western Digital 7200rpm

Weird, well while waiting for a reply from MSI Support I decided to update my BIO from 1.7 to 1.9 Machine restarts and BAM! I have sound. So now I put the driver and utilitie disk back in and there are a few more options including C-Media software and drivers. So guess I'll install the software and ready to rock. Weird if you ask me that the bios upgrade caused it to realize the S-Bracket was on and that there was an on-baord audio chipset.
Thanx, Guru

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

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Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

MSI 865PE VGA problem wrong color

I have just purchased a new motherboard, the MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R. Now all the colours on the screen are wrong. Example: In a window in Windows XP, the white has turned black and the text is still black. All other colours are wired. I have updated the BIOS and drives for the motherboard and the VGA card and nothing seems to help. I have then tried to change the VGA card to my old Geforce 2 and it worked perfect. I used to have the Winfast card working with a Soltek SL-75FRN-L motherboard and it worked perfect. What can the problem be and how do I solve it,
does any one know??
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Motherboard: MSI 865PE NEO2-FIS2R
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Hi again,
Have you tried updating to Win XP Service Pack 1 yet?
Else, you may want to try this weird method as some gave a shot and the problem's solved, but not to everyone...
Boot up using the the cards that work, next, shutdown com(do not un-install drivers), put in the Leadtek card, boot up and see if there's the original 16bit colors with 800 by 600 res screen while starting up windows, if it does, try installing the drivers for WinXP/2000 by manually selecting the location as XP has a problem in detecting XP's VGA drivers, restart and see if problem persists.
All the Best... :D!!!

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Hello, this is my first post, so I just wanted to say hello to everyone.
I just bought the following equipment
P4 2.8c (stock cooled)
MSI 865PE LS motherboard
Kingston HyperX PC3500 2 X 256MB (dual channeled)
Geforce 4 TI4800 8X AGP 128MB
Sparkle 400W Power supply.
My problem is, when I overclock my processor, to a moderate level (3.1 GHZ) I get hieroglyphics and different colored textures placed when playing games (battlefield 1942) and when benchmarking in 3dmark.
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Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

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the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

K8t fis2r problems

the funniest thing happened to me. I installed powerstrip by recommendation from a buddy (for those of you that don't know, it allows you to edit video settings easily, and apply them to certain programs exclusively). when I started up the program and noted what it said my agp aperture size was, it said 128. this is a problem, seeing as how I have an nvidia geforce 6800GT in my system. I restarted, entered bios, and corrected the problem (set agp aperture to 256). when I tried to restart the computer, I got nothing. no POST whatsoever. I do have an LED message on the back: the upper-left hand is green, the others are red. my motherboard is a k8n neo-fis2r, I have a gig of RAM (never had probs with it before), an athlon 3000+, and a thermaltake purepower 420 watt psu. anyone know what is the problem and what I can do about it?

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865PE Overclocking Problems

Ive been having problems overclocking my 865PE Neo2-S motherboard...
Using my P4 2.4C, I drop the mem ratio to 333mhz, and everything goes fine until I reach about 246mhz FSB, where I hit some kind of wall, it doesnt post or if im in windows the computer automatically resets and then doesnt post.
Memory isnt the problem obviously, its running under 200mhz. The CPU temps are fine, I attempted to up the CPU voltage to 1.55, but this also had no effect.
It has to be the motherboard holding me back, anyone got sugggestions as to what I can do?
Thanks.

Well in Bish's sig it says 1.3 bios so you should be able to overclock some. I too was stuck at a certain FSB. No matter what i did i couldnt get my board pass 260FSB. Ive come to the conclusion its just the board. Face it you got a board that cant go over a certain FSB. Whatever you do dont flash to the new 1.4 bios youll have even more problems with overclocking. I did and now i cant overclock at all..well 210FSB at 1:1 and 215 at a 5:4 Divider with major stability problems is not something i call being able to overclock.

My second KT6 Delta FIS2R, problems again..

I had FIS2R with couple of problems: I didn't start after pressing power on -button. All diagnostic leds were red (processor damaged). After pressing reset computer booted up nicely. This problem was from beginning, later (after half year(?) usage) came stability-problems. System became very unstable. Even when all memory and cpu-speeds were as low as possible, there were problems: Windows hanging, prime gave error etc.
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KT6 Delta FIS2R
XP 2500+
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Club 3D Radeon 8500
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From your post its not totally clear where you are at. Does the system still POST?
First of all, it is normal to get some kind of error message the first time after clearing cmos. Entering bios or hitting the key for "load defaults" will make that go away. If you do that and errors still happen in bios then you have more serious problems.
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i just purchased an 875P FIS2R with a 3.0C processor. my power supply is codegen 350W
i have the following questions:
i have bios v1.6 - should i go for bios 1.8 ?
i have been reading in these forums that bios 1.8 is not good.
there is no option in the bios to lock the agp/pci bus at 66/33 respectively. is this a bios v1.6 problem ? if so, will the new bios fix it ?
i am getting artifacts on screen - even in BIOS and MS-DOS mode. what could the problem be ? everything is at default setting - voltages, clocks etc.
the memory that i am using with this board right now is 256mb kingston valueram ddr 333 (single channel ) and i am using a TNT2 32 MB graphics card with it because:
i got 1GB of twinmos DDR400 memory with it, but it was remarked memory and didnt work at all so i'm in the process of exchanging it and
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875P NEO FIS2R problems with booting at power-up

Having problems with booting at power-up.
Recently, with no apparent modification to system - at power up the system will often not boot. About 80% of time systems seems to go into a loop with CD/DVD drive light blinking a few times, then the floppy drive light comes on and can hear the FDD run – within 30 seconds or so, this process starts over again. Power switch LED is on and HDD LED is on (continuously). All fans are running (power supply fan, case fan, CPU fan and Intel Canterwood 875 fan ).
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Once running there is no apparent problem.
This mainboard comes with D Bracket containing 2 USB 2.0 ports, and 4 diagnostics LEDs - when boot problem occurs the diagnostic LEDs, give a code that in the MSI mainboard manual states “Initializing Keyboard Controller” and diagnostic LEDs stays in this mode until via reset button provides a successful boot and start up.
Have reseated all connectors.
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BIOS – AMI v1.8 (has not been updated)
CPU – Intel P4 2.6 GHz - system bus 800 MHz 512 KB L2 Cache
Memory – 1.5 gb (2 x 256 mb and 2 x 512mb)
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HDD – IED WD 160 GB and IED WD 40 GB
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Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 17-May-08, 03:34:12
Have you done >>Clear CMOS Guide<<?
Cleared CMOS - no change same problem. Also, re-seated all connectors at same time.
Quote from: Wonkanoby on 17-May-08, 09:06:54
have you just added the second wd drive
are they jumpered right
jumperless if alone on ide
jumpered master /slave if two on it
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Difficult one.
I think it has tot do with the multiplier not being able to throttle back. Mine goes from 10 to 5 @(close to) idle.
Run SuperPI (stressing ur CPU to the limit, so it won't throtle back) while selecting minimal power settings.
If it still crashes, u might consider raising the vCore, cus the other thing that happens is that the vCore will be lowered when C 'n Q kicks in, or RMA'ing the CPU.
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I tried resetting the BIOS information and since I've done that, the system is only POSTing occasionally. Most of the time I get nothing on the screen. I'm having trouble deciphering what's going on, which is why I'm here searching around for a clue to what I can do to get this sytem working.
I've not done anything with the BIOS settings (though I can't even get in to the BIOS anymore). When the system actually does manage to come back up, I get stuck on the network boot option ("press shift + f10 to configure"). At that stage no keyboard input (shift + f10 ...nor ctrl + alt + del) works. I have to power the system down.
Can anyone help me to get started with troubleshooting this issue? My best guess would be that it's caused by my RAM. But I'm not 100% convinced yet. I've also tried moving the DIMM around to other slots, but get the same behavior.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks for the reply, Jocko. I did wind up trying another Mushkin 512 PC2700/333 DIMM that I had in another machine and it's running stably...no evidence of the previous problems I was having. I have FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's rawkin'! (It picked up the SATA drive without any input from me).
The bummer is that I will have to find another PC to put that 2x512 PC3200 in. Right now I have it in a Soyo KT-333 Dragon Ultra Platinum...which is a bit of a waste for this RAM. So I'll have to buy a new mobo and CPU. That's what I get for not doing enough research before buying RAM (and the same for that weak PSU).
Live and learn.

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