[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Zalman CPU cooler doesn't fit, Northbridge Sink remove?

Hi,
I have a problem fitting a Zalman (CNPS7000B-Cu) cpu cooler - the MSI northbridge sink is too high and too close to the cpu.
Can I replace the NB sink with one with a lower profile?
( Incidently, I'm not overclocking, although I do use this machine as an audio machine and it does get quite hot.
- If I can replace - any recommendations?
- If not - any recommendations for a reasonably priced and quiet cooler that will fit (i.e with a narrow profile).

I had the same problem on my 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum Edition mobo. Zalman's website indicated that the CNPS7000a-AlCu fits on this board, but it doesn't. The diagonally placed northbridge heatsink is in the way. I originally thought I'd bend a few of the Zalman's fins out of the way, but then I decided if I could do something with the northbridge heatsink. I removed the northbridge heatsink and removed the 2 fins that were in the the way of the Zalman. I wanted to repalce the modded northbridge heatsink using some AS5 but the stock thermal goo (some pink stuff) was impossible to get off, even with alcohol or acetone. So I smeared some AS5 on anyway and just mooshed the heatsink back on with the pink junk and AS5.
I noticed that the northbridge gets really hot at stock speeds (200 FSB). I'm planning on overclocking my 2.4C to 3GHz (250 FSB) today, so I hope the northbridge doesn't burn up. Gonna aim a fan at it and hope for the best.
Hope the "bend 2 fins off the northbridge heatsink mod" helps all you guys that want to put Zalman's on your CPU's.
-Coelacanth

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[865PE/G Neo2 Series] CPU VCore CPU Voltage funny looking after Flash Update 3.A

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I have just updated the flash on my computer thru the LiveUpdate running on windows 2000 (without a floppydisk),... the flash ran thru without error and rebooted,... then i ran thru the BIOS settings and came to Frequency/Voltage Control,... BLIP said the computer and then i saw the CPU Voltage (V) saying = ╕65¤ ┐ (not really this sign: ¤ but it is as close as i can get it tiny o with a line on top and buttom of it)
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sorry bout the "hijacking" thingi .....i am a newbie...sorry again...i already start a new topic ...thankss 4 your all help bye... come join in if u can helpthanks
me...i relly need some help ...
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thanks
i relly need some help ...

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Installing Case Fans

Hi,
This is probably the most silly post ever made on this forum , but I need to know if it matters which way round case fans are fitted...
are they supposed to suck air in or blow air out ?
Feel free to laugh at my expense...lol
bOO2

No worries. Nothing to be laughing at as alot of people are confused about airflow as well.
I'll always recommend active exhaust and passive intake over active intake and passive exhaust which I've mentioned in many posts here in the forum.
You've to see whether the fans are of the same model and if they are, I'll recommend 3 fans cooling system or4 fans cooling system.
3 Fans system: 1 fan blowing into the chassis which is directly placed near the CPU area to enhance CPU cooling, 2 fans at the rear to exhaust out all warm air immediately. If your chassis have a topblower hole, fix 1 fan at the rear and 1 fan at the top blowing warm air out.
4 Fans system: Everything will be like the 3 Fan system. Just add the additional fan near the GPU and the HDDs area to cool them down.
More airflow out will prevent trapped warm air stuck inside the chassis which is better than more airflow in.

Zalman CPU Cooling Neo2 Platinum

For those of you trying to keep your system cool, here's some info. I just got the Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu CPU Heatsink and Fan for my Neo2 Plat/A64 3k and I give it a thumbs up. The 109mm size is just right - slides in just over your memory and just above your video card. A bigger size wouldn't fit.
Installing it wasn't bad, although I did have to remove the Mobo backplate which made me nervous. You can tell it won't work by comparing the Zalman standoffs to the stock HSF bracket - the bracket is too tall. Removing the backplate wasn't a big deal. It isnt so much glued on as stuck on. The adhesive that they use doesn't harden and it's more like double sided tape. In any case, I used a flat head screwdriver to CAREFULLY pry it up. I folded up a paper towel into a small pad to protect the Mobo at the screwdriver fulcrum point and ensured that the tip didn't actually touch the motherboard - just the backplate. With some gentle prying all the way around the backplate, it came right up - just have patience.
The end result was a drop in CPU temp, as reported by speedfan, of about 10 degrees across all levels of CPU activity. I was running anywhere from mid 40's to low 60's with the stock HSF, even with Arctic Silver V. Now I idle in the mid 30's and peak in the mid to high 40's (still with Arctic Silver V).
I recommend the combo (Zalman & Arctic Silver) and don't think that it will void your warranty by removing the backplate - mine is still sticky and could be put back on if I had to return it for any reason. Good prices and no shipping at zipzoomfly...

Hmm. Out of curiousity, how did you apply the AS5, did you spread it around at all?
I just built a machine in a Lian Li V1000 and I am getting idle temps of 40C and load temps near 60C with a 7000B on a 3500+ 1.5V Athlon 64. I am not very pleased with these temps, even if there is some hot Ballistix memory radiating heat up into the cooler, I would expect better temps.
I used the zalman backplate, installed everything (to my knowledge) exactly right. I followed AS' website instructions for AS5, everything seems to be as it should. All I can figure is: errors in temp reporting by Core Center, radiant heat from a 9800 pro and crucial memory, or air trapped somehow in the AS5. Other than that, I can't explain what I would call pretty bad temps.
Any ideas?

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Suggestions for excellent Air/Fan Cooling - P4 Northwood

Guys, I need some advice here. I've got my 2.8 Northwood up to 3.16 (yea, I know, not great or anything but good enough for right now).
Anyway, with the coming of the blazing Summer temps hitting Michigan in the high 80-90s, my case and CPU temps are skyrocketing. I am finding that my idle temps, once at 31C are now at 35-36C, and the CPU temps once at 42C max under load are now reaching 50+ C. Also, this is the first time in months upon seemingly endless months that I am now getting random reboots, and I am sure it is due to soaring temps and heat problems. The room temps here are killer, and right now are in the high 70s...
I would like to please hear your suggestions/recommendations on a good AIR/FAN cooling solution for my specs I have listed below. I am looking for something that is not very loud if possible, I welcome and thank you for your comments!
865PE-NEO2-LS (601-6728-020)
AMI BIOS version 2.5
P4 Northwood, Socket 478, 2.8 Ghz/800Mhz FSB HT Enabled
4 DIMMS (256MBx4)=1GB KingMax PC3200 DDR400, Model # MPXB62D-38KT3R-PEA
PowMAX PS LP-8800D, 400 watt, max load +3.3@28A,+5@30A,+12@25A,[email protected],[email protected],+5vsb@2A, 70% min@full load
INTEL 865 .INF Drivers (6.0.1.1002 5/7/2004)
Main: Western Digital Raptor, 10K rpm, 36GB
2nd: Maxtor ATA133 7200rpm 120GB
CD-RW: Lite-On 52x32x52
BFG Tech GeForce 6800 GT OC 256MB GDDR3 AGP Graphics Card
SoundBlaster Audigy 2
ViewSonic Professional P225FB 22" monitor
Current Settings:
Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD   Disabled
CAS# Latency   3
RAS# Precharge   4
RAS# to CAS# Delay   4
Precharge Delay   6
Burst Length   8
AGP Aperture Size   128
FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE
Performance Mode (slow, fast, turbo, Ultra Turbo)   SLOW
DRAM Frequency   452
Adjust CPU Bus Clock (Mhz)   226
DDR Clock (Mhz)   452
Adjust AGP/PCI Clock (Mhz)   66.66/33.33
CPU Vcore Adjust   Yes
CPU Vcore   1.5375
DDR Power Voltage (Default is 2.50)   2.6500
AGP Power Voltage   1.5000
SiSoftware Sandra Prof. 2005 System Info
Front Side Bus Speed (4x)/Memory Bus Speed (2x)   226
Front Side Bus Data Rate (FSB Speed x4)   904
Memory Bus Speed (FSB Speed x2)   452
CPU SPEED (GHz with 14x multiplier)   3.16
CrystalCPUID 4.4.5.253 (C) 2002-2005 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World [http://crystalmark.info/]
OS : Windows XP Professional SP1 [ 5.1 Build 2600 ]
Date : 2005/06/08 0:48:10
CPU Name : Intel Pentium 4 HT (Northwood)
Vendor String : GenuineIntel
Name String : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Architecture : x86
Process Rule : 0.13 um
Platform : Socket 478 [2]
CPU Type : Original OEM processor
Number(Logical) : 2
Hyper-Threading : 2
Family : F
FamilyEx : 00
Model : 2
Stepping : 9
APIC : 00
Brand ID : 09
Microcode ID : 14
Feature : MMX SSE SSE2 HTT
PowerManagement :
Current Original
Clock : 3164.35 MHz 2800.00 MHz
System Clock : 226.03 MHz 200.00 MHz
System Bus : 904.10 MHz 800.00 MHz
Multiplier : 14.00 14.00
Data Rate : QDR
Over Clock : 13.01 %
L1 T-Cache : 12 KuOps
L1 D-Cache : 8 KB
L2 Cache : 512 KB [Full:3164.35 MHz]
Memory : 1024 MB
CPUID : EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 : 00000002 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 : 00000F29 01020809 00004400 BFEBFBFF
00000002 : 665B5001 00000000 00000000 007B7040
80000000 : 80000004 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 : 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000002 : 20202020 20202020 20202020 6E492020
80000003 : 286C6574 50202952 69746E65 52286D75
80000004 : 20342029 20555043 30382E32 007A4847
MSR : EAX1 EDX1 EAX2 EDX2
: 00000080 00000000 0E12000E 00000000
QPF : 3164.350000 MHz
Chipset Information
Chipset : Intel 865G/PE/P/848P (Springdale-G/PE/P)
North Bridge : [8086:2570.02] Intel 82865G/PE/P/848P
South Bridge : [8086:24D0.02] Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/R)
Video Chip : [10DE:0045.A1] NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT (NV40)
BIOS Information by WMI (Windows Management Interface)
BIOS Vendor : American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Caption : Version 1.00
BIOS Version : AMIINT - 10
BIOS Date : 09/29/2004
SM BIOS Caption : V2.5
SM BIOS Version : 2.3
Mother Vendor : MICRO-STAR INC.
Mother Product : MS-6728
Mother Version : 100
System Vendor : MICRO-STAR INC.
System Model : MS-6728
System Information by DMI (Desktop Management Interface)
SM BIOS Version : 2.3
BIOS Vendor : American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version : V2.5
BIOS Date : 09/29/2004
BIOS ROM Size : 512 KB
Mother Vendor : MICRO-STAR INC.
Mother Product : MS-6728
Mother Version : 100
CPU Socket : FC-478
CPU Vendor : Intel
CPU Version : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Processor
Current Clock : 3164 MHz
External Clock : 226 MHz
Max Clock : 4000 MHz

Quote from: swambast on 08-June-05, 12:54:14
Guys, I need some advice here. I've got my 2.8 Northwood up to 3.16 (yea, I know, not great or anything but good enough for right now).
Anyway, with the coming of the blazing Summer temps hitting Michigan in the high 80-90s, my case and CPU temps are skyrocketing. I am finding that my idle temps, once at 31C are now at 35-36C, and the CPU temps once at 42C max under load are now reaching 50+ C. Also, this is the first time in months upon seemingly endless months that I am now getting random reboots, and I am sure it is due to soaring temps and heat problems. The room temps here are killer, and right now are in the high 70s...
I only know that I can't suggest a HS and fan because my temperature is higher than my 2.6GHz Northwood's since i decided to install the Thermalright XP90 and the 92mm UFO Thermaltake fan(~82CFM max.). I recently discovered an old picture from Speedfan saying CPU temp: 40C!!! Now right after boot up, I get 40-44C idle and it can climb up to 60C at full load. I know for a fact that air flow is bad inside the case but it's unbelievable to have 40C+ idle. It can't possibly be the air flow so soon after boot. The pressure (and contact) on the CPU was enough to actually see my CPU stuck on the base of the HS after removing the HS!!! A few pins had to be straightened too.
So, from my experience I think you already rock, since we have 30C(86F) already where I live. The feeling of the XP90 crashed under my boot will ease my pain...Oh, yes it will.
P.S. I 'll give the Arctic Silver a try before smashing the XP90 junk...
P4 2,6GHz Northwood
MSI Neo2-PFS 865PE (v3.2 AMIBIOS)
1 GB RAM PC3200 Kingston & TwinMOS
WD 800JB 80GB-7200RPM
CLUB ATI Radeon 9600Pro
Creative Audigy2 ZS

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Memory timings and power settings anyone?

I'm not very good with computers, so I've just played around with the timings on my memory, but have not found one stable setting as of yet.
The memory is brand new and I've tested it for errors on my brothers computer and there's nothing wrong there.
Intensive harddrive usage, dvd playing and intense downloading while listening to music are sure ways to crash my system. "..........Not less or equal" is the most common error message, but there are
many many more.
Oh, maybe I should point out that overheating's not an issue, cause I've good fans and run my computer without sidepanels.
I also like to say that I have the first generation of p4 with ht and 533fsb.
I'm sure there's something I forgot to mention but here below I'll paste the system summary that Sandra gave me.
Would be forever grateful if someone could help me out with the memory timings and power settings for my board. Setting it to "auto by spd" gives me a very unstable system, so no avail there.
I'm running the mem at 2.70 and sometimes at 2.65, since these two settings seem to be the ones with least crashes.
The Memory installed are 4*512mb ,kingston 512 kvr333x64c25 pc2700
The PSU is a Tagan "TG480-u01" 480w
Many many thanks in advance guys.
SiSoftware Sandra
Processor
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz
Speed : 3.10GHz
Performance Rating : PR4118 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 8kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 4-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector
Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. V2.5
System : MICRO-STAR INC. MS-6728
Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INC. MS-6728
Total Memory : 2GB DDR-SDRAM
Chipset 1
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 135MHz (540MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 2GB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 168MHz (336MHz data rate)
Video System
Monitor/Panel : Iiyama A201HT VisionMaster Pro 510
Adapter : RADEON X800 Series
Adapter : RADEON X800 Series Secondary
Imaging Device : CanoScan FB630U/FB636U #2
Imaging Device : Video Blaster WebCam 3/WebCam Plus (WDM) #2
Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Diskettenhet
Hard Disk : ST3160023AS (149GB)
Hard Disk : WDC WD1000BB-00CAA0 (93GB)
Hard Disk : WDC WD1200JB-00CRA1 (112GB)
Hard Disk : FUJITSU MPG3409AT E SCSI Disk Device (38GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : PHILIPS DVDR1640P (CD 63X Rd, 63X Wr) (DVD 8X Rd, 8X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W4824A (CD 40X Rd, 48X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
CD-ROM/DVD : AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : N/A
Hard Disk (C:) : 149GB (101GB, 67% Free Space) (NTFS)
Xp (D:) : 112GB (2.1GB, 2% Free Space) (NTFS)
Big (E:) : 93GB (9GB, 10% Free Space) (NTFS)
Jimjimjim (F:) : 38GB (2.1GB, 5% Free Space) (NTFS)
Bologna_2 (G:) : 3.9GB (UDF)
CD-ROM/DVD (H:) : N/A
Bfv_3 (I:) : 486MB (CDFS)
Doom 3 roe (J:) : 650MB (CDFS)
Sims2ep1_1 (K:) : 650MB (CDFS)
Bf2 dvd (L:) : 1.9GB (UDF)
CD-ROM/DVD (M:) : N/A
Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 0 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D7
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE
USB Controller/Hub : USB-rotnav (hub)
USB Controller/Hub : USB-rotnav (hub)
USB Controller/Hub : USB-rotnav (hub)
USB Controller/Hub : USB-rotnav (hub)
USB Controller/Hub : USB-rotnav (hub)
USB Controller/Hub : USB-enhet (sammansatt)
USB Controller/Hub : Stöd för USB-skrivarport
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : OHCI-kompatibel IEEE 1394-värdstyrenhet
Keyboard : Logitech HID-Compliant Keyboard
Keyboard : HID-tangentbordsenhet
Mouse : HID-compliant MX310 Optical Mouse
Mouse : HID-kompatibel mus
Mouse : HID-kompatibel mus
Human Interface : Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB (HID)
Human Interface : HID-kompatible konsumentkontrollenhet
Human Interface : HID-kompatibel enhet
Human Interface : Logitech Virtual Hid Device
Human Interface : Logitech Virtual Hid Device
Human Interface : Logitech USB MX310 Optical Mouse
Human Interface : Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB
Human Interface : USB HID (Human Interface Device)
Human Interface : Internet Keys USB
MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Audigy X YouP-PAX A4 v1.00 Audio Driver(WDM)
Device : Creative Game Port
Device : Pinnacle PCTV Stereo PAL Capture Device
Printers and Faxes
Model : Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
Model : Canon PIXMA iP4000
Model : Adobe PDF
Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
Network Services
Adapter : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Desktop Adapter #2

Thanks for your answers.
Danny: 1. Yes, I've put my memory in my brothers computer, and ran memtest there, and it came out ok, but on mine it crashes almost instantly.
2. Yea, I have 2 fans blowing into the case and one out, so airflow is good, cpu is also cool and seems to be happy ;-)
Geps: I can't say I understand all these numbers but there are som specs here as an example, Tagan TG480-U01 480W ATX
I can't imagine that this psu ain't enough, and if so.....I've been had by the dealer.

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] HELP Please? 865PE Neo2 3.0 HT Engineering Sample

I just recently purchased a Neo2 865pe motherboard. I have a Engineering sample 3.0ht 800mhz proc. I used my ES proc from my asus runnin 3.2ghz@800mhz. I install the proc into the MSI and it came up with 1.6ghz. So I tried to up the cpu multiplier it starts from rang e15x and goes to 21x, but even if I set it to 21x I only still get best 2.25mhz. Can someone please point me to a solution. Thank you.

Engineering Samples are like Test beds CPU, which means that it may not work with all boards.
Like what Wonk has mentioned,increased your FSB from 100MHz to 200MHz with Multiplier of x16 and DDR RAM to be clocked at only 400MHz to obtain the 3.2GHz clock of your CPU.

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] DDR Memory with 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum

SYSTEM SPEC: 400w PSU, Pentium 4 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB (HT), Matrox Parhelia 128 8x AGP card, MSI Neo2 PFS Platinum motherboard.
Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
It doesnt work and my system refuses to boot up. I checked out the specs of the 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum, and it says in the table that you can only use 400mhz DDR RAM with an 800mhz FSB processor (which I have). It says it supports 400mhz RAM, "DUAL CHANNEL", non-ECC, unbuffered memory, but no mention of "HIGH DENSITY" or "DUAL IN LINE". Is there a difference between "DUAL CHANNEL" and "DUAL IN-LINE". Also, does anyone know what the difference is between 128 x 4 and 128 x 64, they are both 1gb? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! I have seen some RAM from the same dealer which is not "HIGH DENSITY" and has the 128 x 4 configuration, and is still a 1gb module. Is that safe to buy? What RAM do I need (in detail) for my motherboard. Thanks!

Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
DDR means Double Data Rate RAM (in opposition to the SDRAM or Single Data Rate). DDR RAM bends the transfer rate for clock cycle. It can go quicker because it executes 2 instructions for cycle of clock of the RAM instead of an only instruction like it is the case of the SDR.

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Question-boot from Promise IDE on 865PE Neo2 FIS2R

I bought my first MSI board a couple of years ago, an 865PE Neo2-LS. When I retired that, I went for an Abit 875P IC7-G. I just hated the Abit board, used it 3 months and replaced it with a new MSI 865PE Ne02 FIS2R.
I didn't reinstall WIndows XP Pro with the new motherboard. Everything seemed to be OK until I could get around to a clean install of XP. One reason I wanted the FIS2R model was that I wanted to use the faster Promise IDE connection for my boot drive. I had a heck of a time getting the drive to boot, but it finally worked. I was having a few problems that I thought a repair reinstall of XP might solve. So, I tried that yesterday.
Now I cannot get the same drive to boot from the Promise IDE controller. I saw that setting were changed in the BIOS and I can't figure out how to set them so I can boot from the C: drive on the Promise. It will boot fine from the regular primary IDE controller, but I want to use that for two other hard drives I use for storage. The secondary IDE connection is for a CDRW and DVDRW drives.
I've looked at the FAQs and read the manuals. How do I just use the IDE on the Promise? What should my BIOS settings look like? The Promise drivers are installed on the boot drive, the system will post and I'll see a flash of the Windows XP intro screen, then a flash of a blue screen and it kicks it back to booting again. I've never been able to see what that blue screen is telling me. THe drives I want to put on the Promise controller are PATA drives, I don't want SATA or RAID, just using the Promise as a third connection for IDE drives.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I have tried every imaginable way of setting the BIOS, but can't seem to hit the right combination. That's what I did on my first try when I got it working, hit a lucky combination and it worked.

Thank you. I had already tried the settings in the post you linked to. I had no luck there. I've reinstalled the Promise drivers, but the boot drive refuses to go past the Windows flash screen before resetting. I think it's quite simple what I'm trying to do. I have six drives. On IDE 1 I want to two storage drives to be connected. On IDE 2 I'm putting the Cd and DVD optical drives. On IDE 3 (Promise) I would like to have my boot (master) drive and a slave drive. Rearranging cables I can get the drive to boot from IDE 1, but no luck with IDE 3. I think it's the Promise drivers, they appear to be installed, but I don't think they are working. I'm going to copy the Promise drivers to a floppy and reinstall XP with the boot drive on IDE 3 and see if I get anywhere with that.
The link referred more to SATA and RAID setup, I just want to use the Promise IDE. I'd sure hate to have to put the awful Abit IC7-G back in my system as I can only get 5 IDE devices in that one instead of the 6 the MSI should run.

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] DRAM Timing is too tightly, Press any key to reset DRAM timing

hello,
i need some help.
I have been using this system for 1 year and 4 months now. A few days ago, when I booted up my computer, the message "DRAM timing is too tightly. Press any key or DEL to reset DRAM timing." appeared before it started detecting hard drive and CD-ROMS. I pressed a key and the computer continued as normal.
This morning, the problem got worse. I started my PC but my screen remained blank. The HDD light and CD-ROM light came on but the power light remained off. I turned off the PC by holding the power switch. When i turned it on again, it was the same situation but the power light started blinking. I turned off the PSU power from my wall socket and waitied about 1 minute. I turned it on again and the power light started blinking again but slower this time. I repeated the on/off steps by using the power button 2-3times. Finally, I tried pressing a few keys on my keyboard and the power light stopped blinking and remained green. I turned the PC on/off again and this time, it succeded in booting up.
And the DRAM messge appeared again.
I was like trying to start a car on a cold day... only after turning the key a few times did the engine start....
I've no idea what is happening here.
My specs are:
Intel P4 3.0C GHZ L2 512KB, FSB 800MHZ, 478 PIN
2x PC400 512MB DDR CL2.5
865PE Neo2-PLS
400W Power supply
Western Digital HDD 120GB SATA
Maxtor 120GB HDD SATA
Maxtor 60GB HDD IDE
DVD Writer
Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS
Leadtek FX5900 LX 128MB
Thanks
Lifehalo

hi,
i smelled a burning smell from my power supply. i am replacing my power supply. i don't know if it was the cause of the dram timing thing.
i'll post here again after i replace my power supply. Thanks!!
Quote from: Thunder on 13-May-05, 21:00:44
When the comp boots up: press the 'delete' key to enter BIOS
Move the marker to 'Advanced Chipset Features' and press enter
Set 'Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD' setting to [Enabled] and press enter press enter
Press F10, and you woulg get the question 'Save changes and EXIT?', Answer 'YES* and press enter.
If this would'nt help, post back here.

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