865PE Neo2 and Radeon 9800 Pro Graphics Problems

Hello!
  I just got done building a new system last week, and I've noticed some issues when playing games.  Problems arise when the "Performance Mode" is set to anything higher than 'Fast' in the BIOS.  I get a ton of artifacts when playing games.  I also get artifacts when the Dynamic Overclocking feature is turned on.  I'm using the latest Catalyst drivers, running on XP SP1 w/ all patches installed.  My guess is that my graphics card doesn't like the boost in speed.  BUT, I bought the VisionTek 9800 Pro because I read several reviews on it that said it was stable when overclocked.  Anybody have problems like this?  I saw an earlier post stating something about OEM 9800's being fakes, but this was a retail version ordered from CompUSA.  Any advice, tips, comments would be greatly appreciated... It's driving me NUTS!

I've got the Built By ATI Radeon 9800 Non-Pro and I've set Perf Mode to Slow and DOT to Disabled. This enabled me to OC the Proc stably.
I've played SWG with all terrain and video settings to the MAX and have had only one problem where the game itself crashed. But that was an anomaly not the norm.
I personally would recommend icing perfmod and DOT. They seem to be good marketing ideas, but don't gain much in practice.

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