865PE Neo2 LS going to go out my window

I have a 865PE Neo2-LS with 1.5 Bios. My problem is that even with performance mode set to SLOW, it will still unexplainably go to 640x480 screen resolution and I have to reboot. See my specs below. DOT is disabled and I have all top quality components. I have the DDR votage set @2.75 and the AGP set to 1.60. Any help is appreciated.
MSI 865PE Neo2-LS w/1.5 Bios
2x Kingston HyperX 256mb 2-2-2-6-1
2.6c Intel P4
Thermaltake Spark 7 variable Fan & Heatsink
WD1000JB 7200RPM w/8mb Cache
400Watt Enlight PS
Soundblaster Audigy2 Platnium
ATI Radeon 9500 Pro
ATI TV VE
NEC ND-1100A DVD-RW

That's a common error I've seen with over 50 different ATi cards I've tested from Radeon 7000 to 9800 Pro 256MB. It's a problem with how ATi driver handles GART functions.
It's usually cured by changing one or more of the following things:
1. In display properties under SMARTGART try disabling FAST WRITES
2. In display properties under SMARTGART try setting AGP to 4X
3. In display properties under TROUBLESHOOT turn off WRITE COMBINING
Naturally the first thing to do is update your CHIPSET and/or Radeon drivers. Of course I'm sure everyone is used to (and tired of) that typical form letter style response by now.
However there is a known bug that ATi drivers must sometimes be installed twice to work correctly. this is not to say un-install and re-install, but to re-install them again over your current install. I've had several problems with performance in this repsect. I would install the drivers fresh even on a bare windows install. Benchmarks and stability was horrible. But installing the same driver again on top of it fixed crashes and the performance.
The last version that contained this bug is Catalyst 3.6. I don't know if it applies to Catalyst 3.7. I have tried all flavors and find 3.5 to be the fastest and most stable version so far on the MSI boards I've configured.

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Going to jump out a window if this code doesn't work!!! (kidding...)

But seriously, I need Underscores to disappear when a user starts typing in a Notes field and it does, but if the user did not type anything into the notes field, I need the underscores to appear so someone can handwrite notes.
Here's the code under Page1:
topmostSubform.Page1.UNDLN_1::initialize - (FormCalc, client)
// start script
if (NOTES_1.value <> "") then
UNDLN_1.presence
="hidden"
UNDLN_2.presence
= "hidden"
UNDLN_3.presence
= "hidden"
endif
This does not work. As soon as I open the PDF document, these underscores are all hidden. The Notes_1.value should be "" since nothing has been entered.
I even the following code directly above the IF statement, and the underscores are still hidden when opening the PDF document.
NOTES_1.value = ""
I am at a complete loss.
Any insight is greatly appreciated...
-JoeF

It does help, but doesn't fix the problem(Unless I did something wrong)
I removed all other code related to this.
Then added the following, but have the same identical issue.:
topmostSubform.Page1.NOTES_1::docReady - (FormCalc, client)
if
($ eq "") then
UNDLN_1.presence
= "visible"UNDLN_2.presence
= "visible"UNDLN_3.presence
= "visible"
else
UNDLN_1.presence
= "hidden"UNDLN_2.presence
= "hidden"UNDLN_3.presence
= "hidden"
endif

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

Quote
Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

New 865PE Neo2-P freezes

Hi all, thanks for any help in advance.
I'm putting together a new P4 system built around the 865PE Neo2-P motherboard.
Processor: P4 (prescott) 3.0 GHZ
Memory: 2x 256MB Corsair Value Select PC3200 (if you need the model #, ask)
Motherboard BIOS version: 3.A0
Hard Drive: WD 7200 RPM, 80 GB
Video card: old, generic PCI video card.
OS windows XP, no updates (no chance--see below)
The computer locks up predictably at several points.
When I do the INF update from the CD-ROM (it worked once or twice).
When I do the INF update through MSI's Live Update 3
Attempting to download WinXP features to enable Windows Update to do its job
It will occasionally lock up when working with start menu options.
It also locked several times while booting from the WinXP CD prior to installing XP.
Doing the INF update off the CD always brings up the System Properties window and if the system is going to lock, it seems to be locking while trying to bring up the window. I don't know if the Live Update 3 is doing the same thing or not. I never get far enough. The net card and AC 97 drivers installed fine. But then, they don't seem to make the system Properties Window come up either.
Windows Update: The computer downloads the Windows Update program itself just fine, but when I try to get the actual updates, it wants to get additional components. Once I click the button to tell it to go ahead, the computer locks.
Troubleshooting
Memory Swap:
I pulled memory from a functioning computer and replaced the Corsair chips. No change.
I reduced memory to one memory SIMM in one bank (bank 0) That got me thoughrough the INF update from the CD but ran aground on Windows Updste and Live Update 3.
BIOS: Is the current version according to MSI's website and Live Update 3.
Disabled L1, L2 caches on the Processor: slowed the computer to a crawl, but it had the same problem when it came to Live Update 3.
Processor Swap: I don't have another P4 to swap. Both my other machines are Athlons.

Sharp,
If I read my power supply right, it's rated for 15A on the +12V rail. Is 16A rock-bottom or recommended?
I have a working machine with a 400W power supply (17A on the +12V rail) and I connected the 400 to the computer. I'm still getting the same problems.
I downloaded memtest and put it on a floppy. It's been running for a solid hour now with no complaints.
When I was trying to get ahold of memtest, I surfed out to the memtest.org and tried to download without the benefit of your forum link. The machine froze after clicking on one of memtest's download links. I'm pretty sure it was the "precompiled package for floppy" link. It downloaded fine off your forum link however.
Any other ideas before I RMA this puppy?

865PE Neo2-PFISR failure

Hello,
This is my first post here so I would write down my system configuration at first:
my MSI mobo: 865PE Neo2-PFISR (with BIOS update to V3.A since 21/01/2005)
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 HT 2.8E SL79K
RAM: 2GB Kingston 400MHz DDR (4 x KVR400X64C3A/512)
Graphics Card (GPU): Club ATI 9600XT 256MB AGP 8x
2 SATA HDDs: 320GB + 160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm
3 IDEs: SONY DVD-ROM 16x, PLEXTOR CD-RW 52x, NEC DVD-RW DL 16x
Sound Card: TASCAM US-122 (External USB)
Power Supply (PSU): Seasonic S12+ 550W 80plus (+3,3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, [email protected], +5Vsb@3A) http://www.seasonicusa.com/s12plus.htm
Monitor: EIZO L550 17" LCD with DVI cable connected
O/S: Dual boot on Kubuntu 7.10 and Windows XP (separately in each HDD)
using BIOS IDE setup: Native Mode configuration with S-ATA only, both P-ATA keep Enabled and no RAID which is the only configuration that my Linux installs or starts and USB Legacy Disable for starting a Windows XP installation otherwise it crashes after a CD-ROM boot in the first blue LOAD screen of the bootable Windows XP.
so I would like to discuss the failure problem that I have:
Sometimes I push the pc's power button to power on and the system gives power to the peripherals (CDs, HDDs, FANs, etc) but the screen does not open at all and the front HDD's orange led stays always ON still. The "D-Bracket 2" shows at once started 2 green leds (2nd and 3nd) and two yellow (?!?!?!) or 2 red (2nd and 3rd) and two yellow (?!?!?!). I'm surprised about the yellow!!! I tried out several setups after failure like: barebone, just the CPU installed with no memory, GPU or HDDs etc, another different type of PSU or unplugging any cable (from the USBs' or the D-Bracket's to the Power/HDD/Reset Leds and the FANs') but nothing changed at all. Finally if I "Clear CMOS" using the Jumper JBAT1 as the manual's information, everything goes well and the pc starts excellent again but then, in a random time after a power on or a restart it does the same failure. I do this post because this was happening really rarely in the past but now this is happening usually (once in a week I can say) with no hardware change since a while. Thank you in advance for your time and I will be thankful for any help.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Greetings from Greece
Christos Kyrkilis

Quote from: Del UK on 07-February-08, 04:31:04
You have HSF that has retention socket with back plate
Have you done a strip and reassemble of this as yet..........
Could you please rephrase what you've posted cause my bad English couldn't help me understand what you mean. Sorry

865PE Neo2 FIS2R

Hello all. I've searched the forums and read alot of posts about my problem, but seem to be missing the information I am looking for. Let me tell you what is going on. I have the MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R mobo ver 1, P4 3.0 800FSB, 1 gig corsair twinx XMS 3200 CL2. My problem is when I try to use this RAM my system will not start. No Post, nothing and the D-bracket shows me memory error code. If I use a strip of crucial from my other PC everything works fine (the crucial is 333mhz at 512mb, cl3). I checked out the RAM compatability report on the MSI site and it was pretty confusing to me. I guess my question is, is my RAM compatible or is there a work around to using the XMS modules?
Other components are as follows:
ATI Radeon 9800XT (256)
48xCD-RW
80gig WD drive (PATA)
431w Enermax PSU
Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Dink,
great to see someone who has the same config as I have.
My System:
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (Bios 1.8)
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT
My system is running very stable with Ram-Settings at 2-3-3-6-8 in Turbo/Sergeant. Pls set your timings to these values. This should work.
Now a question to you. I have problems with the ATI 9800XT cards.
1) Do you also see stuttering or lags when running 3DMark2001SE? With ATI 9800XT Reference Cards I experience these lags also in the overlay mode and in Games when turning very fast (egoshooters). You can see what I mean when you install this little tool which changes the background of your WinXP desktop to a psychedelic wormhole: http://www.geisswerks.com/drempels/index.html
After you start this funny tool. Watch out for your desktop. If it isn't runnin 100% smooth you have the same problems as I have. The only 9800XT card which isn't causing this stuttering is the ASUS 9800XT. Could you pls. tell me if you also see these lags? You can increase the stuttering by copying some files from Dir1 to Dir2.
These lags have no impact of benchmark results!
2) Pls could you tell me what's the IRQ of your card? 16? Is it shared with the USB Controller?
3) Who is the manufacturer of your card? Ati itself or Hercules, HIS or Saphire??
If you cannot see this stuttering I would bet you have a ASUS.
Greets Digit
from Germany

865PE Neo2(6728) D-Bracket hangs at Memory Detection Test

This is terribly annoying... I just bought the mother board... Its a 865PE Neo2(6728)800mhzFSB the processor is P4 2.4ghz 800mhz, 512k l2-Cache. I dont know who made it like i know nothing about northwood or whatever, it says Intel on the box... I have 512MB of "Legacy Electronics" PC3200 64x64 DDR... I also just bought a NVdia G4 Ti-4200 64mb DDR 4x AGP made by Pixelview. I have a 160GB WD 8mb Cache 7200 HD... Ok the problem is when i go to boot up the computer, the VIDEO doesnt come on, and when i installed the "D-Bracket" the lights hang at 3 light, top right green all other red... Says in the manual that problem is memory detection test, testing onboard memory size, will hang if damaged or not installed properly. Ok. I have no idea how that wo;uld happen so, just to check i took out RAM, no dice, i changed video cards to MX440 G4, no dice, i tried disconnection the PCI slot which has the 160GB hard drive connected(why it needs this i dont know, according to WD WinXP needs...) none of this changes anything.. How do i check the onboard memory or could it be anything else? Ok thats all i have thanks for the help!!

Did you tried to boot up the system without the D-Bracket?
Yes it still does nothing, no video... Thats why i put in the D-Bracket. It doesnt sound like its going through the POST either.. I dont know if computers do that anymore thou;gh haha..
If you did, did you change to another piece of RAM to test?
I have no more DDR to put in, only SDRam and im sure that wont work.. I tried moving to different slots, 1 3 and 4 thinking maybe it was backwords i dunno... Didnt do anything, and you USED to be able to take the ram out and still boot into bios etc...
Did you change any settings in your BIOS?
I havent even gotten video, nada... Black screen.
What is the wattage of the PSU you are using now?
Where do i find the wattage? The watts on the case is uh... 350 or 400 one of the two... The case says USB Deluxe P4 Case... And the watts on the Power supply is 115 if thats what you were wondering... Hope that answer the question

MSI 865PE NEO2-V booting problems [Solved]

Hi. I've been building a new computer and am seeing some weird stuff.
System Specs:
-P4 3 GHz Socket 478
-MSI 865PE NEO2-V -V22 http://www.saveateagle.com/865pe-ne...EO2-V&ovtac=CMP
-128mb ATI Radeon 9800 pro
-120 GB Western Digital
-1GB dual channel DDR400 PC3200 Corsair
-Ultra 500w X-Connect:
http://www.absoluteinsight.net/2456
-DRW 1108IM ¡V DVD+/-RW Drive
http://www.btc.com.tw/english/2-2-dvd_rw.htm
-Generic Floppy Drive (sentimental reasons )
The system seems to be running (ie no post beeps) but I'm not getting any signal sent to the monitor. I've tried running it out of the case with only the video card connected to the mobo, cleared cmos via battery and jumper settings, and the same thing still happens.
Anyway, I've been talking with other guys on another forum too, but we haven't gtten it to work.
http://www.techsupportforum.com/showthread.php?t=53044
I'm going to try clearing the cmos again because apparently the battery must be out for several minutes, whereas I roughly did one minute. If the mobo has no ram connected, there should be post beeps, right? If so, I better check the case speaker connection again.
Thanks for the help.

I tried removing my RAM and powering -suprisingly no beeps . So make sure its not a faulty RAM, try another one

MSI 865PE NEO2-V showing wrong RAM timings

Hi
I have a MSI 865PE NEO2-V motherboard with Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 DDR-DIMM 2048MB Kit w/two matched CMX1024-3200C2 DIMMs now and try to put the timings of the RAM to 2-3-3-6 in the bios.
According to http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...h_results.html it should work ok...but its not.
When i check the timings with CPU-Z it shows 3-4-4-8 instead.
The SPD is 3-3-3-8.
I have checked so they are in Dual channel and i have put the RAM voltage to 2.75V after i tried with the default voltage, but to no avail.
To be extra certain i ran Everest Ultimate and it showed the exact timings.
The RAM run fine with StressPrime and Prime95 but i get bad results in SiSoft Sandras RAM benchmarks.
What is going on????

Hi
Yeah, it get slow results.
I have a Intel Prescott 3.2Ghz with FSB800.
I see now that the link uses Java script, its in Corsairs search engine on their site.
Their recomendations for the set of RAM i have is: TWINX2048-3200C2 / DDR-400 (XMS-3200C2) / 2-3-3-6 .
I have tried to set the timings as you said but it still runs at 3-4-4-8 whatever i set it at.
I have it running at 2-3-3-6 on another motherboard so i think it must be some settings in the BIOS that i set wrong on this one, but i cant figure it out.
Could it be that somethings wrong with the Performance Mode (MAT) settings?
I tried it on and off, I have also reseted the BIOS to default and even removed the CMOS battery for a while.
I paste all the info from the Corsair site here:
Facts about the TWINX2048-3200C2
The TWINX2048-3200C2 is a pair of 1024 MByte DDR SDRAM DIMMs designed for extreme speed are some of the fastest 1 GByte modules available. TWINX matched memory pairs are specifically designed for motherboards using chipsets with dual memory channels. This part delivers outstanding performance at high clock speeds. It has been tested extensively in a variety of motherboards commonly used in gaming rigs. This memory has been verified to operate at 200 MHz (DDR400) at aggressive latencies of 2-3-3-6. This module is also available as a single module. This module is available as a single module or a pair of dual-channel tested modules, in both black and platinum heat spreaders.
Facts about this Chipset
The 865PE chipset is a great choice for users who require a complete range of support for the Pentium 4 processor, with high-bandwidth DDR memory and discrete graphics cards. Engineered to optimize Dual-Channel DDR SDRAM memory performance, the 865PE chipset features an 800-MHz system bus, support for the latest AGP8X graphics cards, and high-bandwidth DDR400/333/266 SDRAM memory technology.
Facts about this Motherboard
This 865PE Neo2-V MSI board is flexible and highly scalable solution that meets a broad range of demanding computing needs. The 865PE chipset offers high-bandwidth interfaces such as dual-channel DDR 400 main memory, coupled with an 800 MHz system bus, AGP8X graphics interface, dual independent Serial ATA ports and Hi-Speed USB 2.0 connectivity to ensure the performance you expect.
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/twinx2048-3200c2.pdf

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] Question-boot from Promise IDE on 865PE Neo2 FIS2R

I bought my first MSI board a couple of years ago, an 865PE Neo2-LS. When I retired that, I went for an Abit 875P IC7-G. I just hated the Abit board, used it 3 months and replaced it with a new MSI 865PE Ne02 FIS2R.
I didn't reinstall WIndows XP Pro with the new motherboard. Everything seemed to be OK until I could get around to a clean install of XP. One reason I wanted the FIS2R model was that I wanted to use the faster Promise IDE connection for my boot drive. I had a heck of a time getting the drive to boot, but it finally worked. I was having a few problems that I thought a repair reinstall of XP might solve. So, I tried that yesterday.
Now I cannot get the same drive to boot from the Promise IDE controller. I saw that setting were changed in the BIOS and I can't figure out how to set them so I can boot from the C: drive on the Promise. It will boot fine from the regular primary IDE controller, but I want to use that for two other hard drives I use for storage. The secondary IDE connection is for a CDRW and DVDRW drives.
I've looked at the FAQs and read the manuals. How do I just use the IDE on the Promise? What should my BIOS settings look like? The Promise drivers are installed on the boot drive, the system will post and I'll see a flash of the Windows XP intro screen, then a flash of a blue screen and it kicks it back to booting again. I've never been able to see what that blue screen is telling me. THe drives I want to put on the Promise controller are PATA drives, I don't want SATA or RAID, just using the Promise as a third connection for IDE drives.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I have tried every imaginable way of setting the BIOS, but can't seem to hit the right combination. That's what I did on my first try when I got it working, hit a lucky combination and it worked.

Thank you. I had already tried the settings in the post you linked to. I had no luck there. I've reinstalled the Promise drivers, but the boot drive refuses to go past the Windows flash screen before resetting. I think it's quite simple what I'm trying to do. I have six drives. On IDE 1 I want to two storage drives to be connected. On IDE 2 I'm putting the Cd and DVD optical drives. On IDE 3 (Promise) I would like to have my boot (master) drive and a slave drive. Rearranging cables I can get the drive to boot from IDE 1, but no luck with IDE 3. I think it's the Promise drivers, they appear to be installed, but I don't think they are working. I'm going to copy the Promise drivers to a floppy and reinstall XP with the boot drive on IDE 3 and see if I get anywhere with that.
The link referred more to SATA and RAID setup, I just want to use the Promise IDE. I'd sure hate to have to put the awful Abit IC7-G back in my system as I can only get 5 IDE devices in that one instead of the 6 the MSI should run.

865PE Neo2-V problems

I'm hoping this is the right area to ask for help... Ever since I got this MB it's been nothing but trouble. I bought it, took it home, hooked it up, no power. So I went back to the computer shop I got it from and asked them what's wrong with it. After taking my system in for them to make sure it was setup right, they informed me that I had to send it back for RMA work. so now, about 2-3 months later I finally got a new board back, and have random reboots. I've tried everything I could think of to figure out why it's randomly rebooting and am stumped. One surefire way to make it reboot is opening the front of my case, that does it everytime, so I tried a different MB to see if the same problem happen. It doesn't... Was there a re-call or something on these MB's? I hate to do another RMA and be without a computer for a few more months, since I work out of my home, and my computer is a main part of my work... I can't afford to send this MB in again. I've got the latest BIOS update, my RAM is set to 2.5,3,3,8 (per manufacturer). I have a 2 gig P4, that works fine in my other board. Even bought a new SATA HD for a fresh install of windows XP and still, the random rebotos happen. I'm not trying to OC or anything along those lines, since the chip I have shows almost no increases from OC's, so it's not from OC'ing it.. I'm running a 480 watt power supply, and that should be more then enough juice for the board... Sorry to rant and rave, but been working on this for about 3 weeks and about to pull out all my hair, since everytime I think it's going to be ok and I start to actually accomplish some work, it reboots, before I have a chance to save anything...
I guess I'm asking if anyone else has had these problems with this MB, or do I just have that kind of luck? I've been looking over the boards here for the last week or so and tried pretty much everything I've found, under a search for random reboots, to no avail. Here's a list of what I can think of off the top of my head that I've tried... <deep calming breath> Changed the BIOS through every version since the initial BIOS the driver disk has on it, re-seated the RAM in different places in the DIMM's, Memtest388 or whatever it is with 0 errors on a 10 hour test (the longest it's run without a reboot since day 1), pulled the graphics card and re-seated it, put more fans in, taken them out, took the power supply in to have it tested (it's fine), replaced the RAM with new shiny RAM that's tested fine, tried a different case, reset the CMOS, tried a different chip, tried numerous power supplies, checked the voltage at the surge protector, replaced all old components (CD drives, floppy drives ect...) traced each individual wire checking for breaks insulation problems, software tests out the wazoo all saying it's fine, new heat sinks, new thermal gel, put the computer on top of a cold vent (thinking of might be to hot) and so on... I guess I should list my setup since every component in the case has tested out fine at the shop and I can't afford to replace anything else...
865PE Neo2-V MB with a Intel 2.0 gig P4
512 x2 corsair VS512MB400 RAM sticks
Asus N6600 graphics card (Nvidia)
480 watt power supply
Sound Blaster live! 5.1 gamer
BIOS version 6.2
At first I thought it might be overheating, but the processor and RAM stay around 37º and 39º give or take 2º. I've also checked for virus's/spyware/adware to many times to remember with none found. Any help would be greatly apprieciated before I get so fed up that move to a cave and rely on an abacus for record keeping...

I have almsot the same set-up as you have.
I didnt have these problems though.
One thing that comes to mind is a grounding error.
Have you checked the space between the motherboard and the side of the case its mounted to?
I read that you tried a diffrent case, but it could be some issue with one of the grounding points where you put the screws in perhaps.
I know that the Spread Spectrum setting in BIOS can cause some disturbances, but it shouldnt really be enough to make it reboot though.
But check that one anyway, ON and OFF.
A bit info on Spread Spctrum:
"Spread Spectrum
When the motherboard’s clock generator pulses, the extreme values (spikes) of the
pulses creates EMI (Electromagnetic Interference). The Spread Spectrum function
reduces the EMI generated by modulating the pulses so that the spikes of the pulses
are reduced to flatter curves. If you do not have any EMI problem, leave the setting at
[Disabled] for optimal system stability and performance. But if you are plagued by EMI,
activate the Spread Spectrum for EMI reduction. Remember to disable Spread
Spectrum if you are overclocking because even a slight jitter can introduce a temporary
boost in clock speed which may just cause your overclocked processor to lock
up. Options: [Disabled], [Enabled]."
I assume you tried to run the Load BIOS Setup Defaults.
Also make sure that all the jumpers on the motherboard are set right, there might be some of the set wrong by accident, check with your manual to be sure.
You can try this to, take out your motherboard and place it at a non-conductive material.like wood or glass and attach all the components u need to do a boot-up, and only those, and see whats happening.
If it runs ok like this, then it might be some sort of short-circuit somwhere.
I think i read about an ASUS board that had some components near the CPU that somehow got in touch with, either the heatblock, orsome connection point of the fan-mounting and it caused some serious problem for people.
I took quite some troubleshooting to find that out for them.
All i can think off right now, at the top of my head, but try this, if you havent done it already.

Identifying exact model of MOBO 865PE Neo2

I am trying to identify the exact model of my son's computer's mobo.
On the board it has MS-6728 Ver. 1
There seems to be a differenct between the 865pe neo2 and a 865 neo2 platinum.
More confusion when I try to determine Current Bios.
On screen at boot : A6728IMS v1.9 110603
When actually in the setup bios screens says ver3.19
When looking online, the bios for the above mentioned platinum is listed as ver3.19 with the same date stamp.
Where can I find if pcbv1 or pcbv2
Sorry if this is a newbie question. I REALLY have tried to locate this info on the MSI site.
Michael

Quote from: Maesus on 19-March-06, 11:15:11
Still can't get a clue why it freezes out. Is your system ... OEM?
Think I descovered the problem. My processor is evidently a "prescott". Found in another forum. Installing winxp sp2 on a machine with a prescott chip may lead to the startup failure if the bios on the motherboard has not been updated to a version that supports an updated microcode on the prescott. The temporary solution is to turn off level 1 and 2 cache. When I did that the machine actually started loading windows. (terribly slowly I might add) Hopefully when I get the operating system going, I can flash the bios to 2.5. Then turn the cache back on. If not, I'll have to replace the mobo or processor. Can't live with this SLOW system.
Full article that helped me to find this problem is at
http://cquirke.mvps.org/sp2intel.htm

865PE NEO2-FI2R + games = not good

I have a big problem with my new computer.
The system is working like a charm in Windows applications and when I'm working with video editing, however I cannot play any games because of the major stutter I get in all games. I cannot seem to find a fix for this problem :(
I have tried with BIOS 1.3 trough 1.5b2 and it only gets worse for every new BIOS I use, now I'm back at 1.3.
My system is:
865PE NEO2-FIS2R currently BIOS 1.3 and latest drivers
2 x 512Mb DDR-400 Apacer
1 x 80Gb S-ATA as system disk
2 x 160Gb S-ATA at RAID-0
ATI Radeon 9700 PRO with Catalyst 3.7
DirectX 9.0b
IDE Busmaster disabled in BIOS (enabled before, this was bad I heard?)
No overclocking (even tried overclock)
MAT at slow (tried every setting)
D.O.T at disabled (tried every setting)
PCI Latency at 32 (tried 64)
AGP aper. size at 128Mb (tried every setting)
using the built in audio chip (tried disabled)
Windows XP Pro SP1 with every update available.
FSAA off (tried every setting)
Aniso. filtering at 2x (tried every setting)
every other setting at "performance"
AGP 8x (tried 4x)
Fastwrites on (tried off)
My guess now is that when I had IDE Busmaster enabled and installed the Intel INF pack it installed a busmaster driver which was bad for the system. Could this be the case. I did a fresh install on the system two days ago but I didn't try any games until everything was installed, I didn't expect this to happen :(
The system isn't overheated because I'm using many big fans right now to make sure it isn't overheated.
I'm lost here, what do I do ? :/

It's really amazing how many quality component systems utilizing the 875/865 chipset(all mobo manufacturers-not MSI specific)have been brought down by an inadequate PSU. This is one component that can no longer be taken for granted. I'm no IRQ expert but it's funny how some systems work better with the onboard sound and others with a seperate soundcard. Also I have seen more USB problems with this chipset than any other. I jumped on this 875 chipset as soon as it came out(couldn't wait any longer to upgrade my old PIII - which I'm in the process of rejuvenating for my son)but I will certainly wait out all the bugs on the upcoming PCI Express platform.

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R POST problem

I'm having a problem with my newly built system and hoped that someone here might be able to help.
I am using the 865PE Neo2 -FIS2R motherboard with a 3.0Ghz P4 800Mhz FSB and a single 512MB Value Select Corsair RAM (DDR 3200, 200/400Mhz). The installed Video Card is a Leadtek Geforce3 Ti. There are no other expansion cards installed. There is no HDD.
When I power on my PC, I hear 2 short beeps, a pause, and then 8 short beeps. I'm also not getting any video. I looked up the beep codes on the AMI Bios web page. 2 beeps for video card issues and 8 beeps for memory issues.
I think the d-bracket is a great touch, so I check out its LED indicators. It shows the pattern denoting a memory issue. The only other RAM module I have laying around is a single generic PC 2100 266Mhz module. So, I pop it in. When I power on the system I get the same beep codes and LED configuration on the d-bracket.
Are the MSI Neo2 boards extremley picky about RAM? Should I be using two modules as per the RAM population table in the manual? Is there a recommended brand/model of RAM? Is there anything else I should be looking at as the cause?
I plan on picking up some different RAM modules over my lunch break today but before I did I wanted to check with those who know before I blow money on them.
Thanks for any help/advince.

KevinS,
Sad to say but there are some Corsair RAMs are known for instability problems with MSI mobos, especially the Low Latency RAM with the NEOs and NEO2s. That's why MSI has to test the RAMs to make sure that there is a list of confirmed and compatible RAMs for the mobo.
Pheng,
This AVATAR is better than the last one, at least it's not the 3X rated type... but I'll put an NC-16 PG for it hehehe... . Another thing is that I did not say that I hate the previous AVATAR at all... lol... Just feel that it is unsuitable for a tech forum where people from all over the world in all age and genders will be visting and viewing the threads. I hope you understand the suitation here .

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] DDR Memory with 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum

SYSTEM SPEC: 400w PSU, Pentium 4 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB (HT), Matrox Parhelia 128 8x AGP card, MSI Neo2 PFS Platinum motherboard.
Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
It doesnt work and my system refuses to boot up. I checked out the specs of the 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum, and it says in the table that you can only use 400mhz DDR RAM with an 800mhz FSB processor (which I have). It says it supports 400mhz RAM, "DUAL CHANNEL", non-ECC, unbuffered memory, but no mention of "HIGH DENSITY" or "DUAL IN LINE". Is there a difference between "DUAL CHANNEL" and "DUAL IN-LINE". Also, does anyone know what the difference is between 128 x 4 and 128 x 64, they are both 1gb? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! I have seen some RAM from the same dealer which is not "HIGH DENSITY" and has the 128 x 4 configuration, and is still a 1gb module. Is that safe to buy? What RAM do I need (in detail) for my motherboard. Thanks!

Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
DDR means Double Data Rate RAM (in opposition to the SDRAM or Single Data Rate). DDR RAM bends the transfer rate for clock cycle. It can go quicker because it executes 2 instructions for cycle of clock of the RAM instead of an only instruction like it is the case of the SDR.

865PE Neo2 LS going to go out my window

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