865PE Neo2-LS hang at POST, D-LED - RRRR Is that a good siren?

I just got my new pc parts. I put them together, but it failed to boot. The D-LED starts all red and stays all red. The manual says that means there is a bad CPU.
A few seconds after power up, the PC speaker makes a siren noise. Is that a good siren?
What does it mean?
I got an OEM Pentium 4 2.4Ghz 800Mhz FSB.  It is plugged in correctly, with the gold arrow pointing at the lever on the socket. It seems to be seated correctly.
I don't have another CPU that I can just swap out to try things.
Are there any recommendations for what to try next?
I haven't plugged in a keyboard, monitor, or anything but power.
CPU P4/2.4GHz, 800M 478P/512K HT
DDRAM 256MX2 DDR400 C3 PC3200 K RTL  KVR400X64C3AK2/512
160GB|SEAGATE ST3160023A
 MSI|865PE Neo2-LS Retail
Floppy 1.44MB|SAMSUNG SFD-321B/LBL1 OEM                 
SteelCase w/ 400W Power supply
ATI Radeon VE 7000 64MB Dual Display
CoolerMaster DI4-6H53B HeatSink and Fan plugged into MB

Out of 2 MSI 865PE  1 board one has failed after working fine for about 2 days. Now a new 3rd board has now has worked for about 30 minutes before crapping out during setup.
Worked ok while I partitioned w PartMagic, then crapped out - D bracket shows all red -meaning CPU problem, but in fact I don't believe it at all.  I took it out and inspected it cannot see any problem at all.  On the previous identical MB -the error message was about the RAM which also turned out to be completely INCORRECT since the same memory worked fine in the replacement MB.
Fan speed was ok last time I checked (while things worked), now there is no video, nor will the mb shut down  with long power button press -as it did at first.
CPU is Retail P4 2.8 FSB800 w orig cooling fan
Video is ATI 9000 pro -not a very fancy or powerful card -same as in 2nd machine
PS is Enermax  300 watt -just like the one that works in an identical machine
Memory is Geil Golden Dragon 512Mb (1 have 4 of them), also tried Kingston HyperX 3200 with no luck.
In my many years of working w tons of machines I've only run into one other brand  (ECS Elite Group -total crap company never answered e-mail or phone calls) where I had 2 mboards in a row which failed immediately (or within 30 minutes).
Unless some of you have had similar experience and some solution I'm returning this MB and swap for a different brand and model.  
Thanks in advance
Dan

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