865PE Neo2-PFISR failure

Hello,
This is my first post here so I would write down my system configuration at first:
my MSI mobo: 865PE Neo2-PFISR (with BIOS update to V3.A since 21/01/2005)
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 HT 2.8E SL79K
RAM: 2GB Kingston 400MHz DDR (4 x KVR400X64C3A/512)
Graphics Card (GPU): Club ATI 9600XT 256MB AGP 8x
2 SATA HDDs: 320GB + 160GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm
3 IDEs: SONY DVD-ROM 16x, PLEXTOR CD-RW 52x, NEC DVD-RW DL 16x
Sound Card: TASCAM US-122 (External USB)
Power Supply (PSU): Seasonic S12+ 550W 80plus (+3,3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, [email protected], +5Vsb@3A) http://www.seasonicusa.com/s12plus.htm
Monitor: EIZO L550 17" LCD with DVI cable connected
O/S: Dual boot on Kubuntu 7.10 and Windows XP (separately in each HDD)
using BIOS IDE setup: Native Mode configuration with S-ATA only, both P-ATA keep Enabled and no RAID which is the only configuration that my Linux installs or starts and USB Legacy Disable for starting a Windows XP installation otherwise it crashes after a CD-ROM boot in the first blue LOAD screen of the bootable Windows XP.
so I would like to discuss the failure problem that I have:
Sometimes I push the pc's power button to power on and the system gives power to the peripherals (CDs, HDDs, FANs, etc) but the screen does not open at all and the front HDD's orange led stays always ON still. The "D-Bracket 2" shows at once started 2 green leds (2nd and 3nd) and two yellow (?!?!?!) or 2 red (2nd and 3rd) and two yellow (?!?!?!). I'm surprised about the yellow!!! I tried out several setups after failure like: barebone, just the CPU installed with no memory, GPU or HDDs etc, another different type of PSU or unplugging any cable (from the USBs' or the D-Bracket's to the Power/HDD/Reset Leds and the FANs') but nothing changed at all. Finally if I "Clear CMOS" using the Jumper JBAT1 as the manual's information, everything goes well and the pc starts excellent again but then, in a random time after a power on or a restart it does the same failure. I do this post because this was happening really rarely in the past but now this is happening usually (once in a week I can say) with no hardware change since a while. Thank you in advance for your time and I will be thankful for any help.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Greetings from Greece
Christos Kyrkilis

Quote from: Del UK on 07-February-08, 04:31:04
You have HSF that has retention socket with back plate
Have you done a strip and reassemble of this as yet..........
Could you please rephrase what you've posted cause my bad English couldn't help me understand what you mean. Sorry

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