865PE Neo2-PFS + Bios 3.A0: CPU Temp

If installed the newest bios, 3.A0:
This should fix my temp problems.
But what's a good temp for a Pentium 4 3.0E? (Prescott)
I'm using a boxed cooler (What's a good (Silent) replacement?)
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 57°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Please post your CPU Temp! And what kind of cooler you are using!
I haven't run a stressed temp test yet...

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Originally posted by Wolvman
If installed the newest bios, 3.A0:
This should fix my temp problems.
But what's a good temp for a Pentium 4 3.0E? (Prescott)
I'm using a boxed cooler (What's a good (Silent) replacement?)
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 57°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Please post your CPU Temp! And what kind of cooler you are using!
I haven't run a stressed temp test yet...
I'm using a kingwin Arctic Liquid Cooler
First hour:
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 41°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Second hour:
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 51°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 53°

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Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
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Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
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Core voltage stability on 865PE Neo2 PFS

I've just installed one of the new P-series NEO-2 MOBO's. Nice piece of work, although it seems there is still some work left to be done. Definite problems (although not serious) in Core center (althoug other posts indicate this may be indiginous to core center itself..)
More serious though is a reading of the processor core voltage.
I'm using a Celery 2.6, OC'd to 3.25G, FSB 125. Had to raise core voltage to 1.6V to get there, lower voltage led to crashes as low as FSB 104...
Recently, I looked at a scan of the core voltage (provided by Speedfan):
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If it does this at 1.5V, I can understand the crashes.
I get the impression this board could do MUCH better with more stable voltage regulation.
Anyone seeing similar behaviour in other Neo2-boards? Am I missing a setting?(core-cell may be intervening) It's hard to imagine the PSU can't hack it.. 12V level is rock solid.
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I'm not worrying. Just a bit surprised we all make a bug fuzz about overclocking, increasing core voltage by 25 mV at a time, and suddenly ignoring it all and "accepting" 70 mV drops if we need processing power...
If the voltage regulator would be more robust, it would be able to maintain the Vcore to (much?) higher power ratings.
This board drops by roughly 70 mV, constituting 3 notches on the voltage setting tab.
I went up to 1.6V, and what I actually get is 1.52.....
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Maybe a new target for modifications? (if it's worth it...)

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Since you already have reformated/made a fresh OS install, here´s some things you can try…….
- Set dram voltage to 2.7v in bios
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many thanx.

Indeed...
I was just pointing out that even the fastest agp card is lots slower then a midrage pci-e card.
I still think any upgrade to the agp system is a waste of money. CPU limitation ... 478 P4's rly aren't fast enough to feed modern gpu's
In case he still wants a agp card
the 7800GS is the obvious choise, and you might want to check out albatron's 7600GS agp card.
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This one too: http://www.asrock.com/product/P4Twins-HDTV.htm

K9n2 bios reading my cpu temps all wrong

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my cou core temps are wrong any way and all wasy have been core 0 idle at -2c and core 1 -22c but they have goe up to core 1 26c and core 2 8c load so its obviously geting hotter but the motherboard isant repoting that it is :/ i have used manny difforent programs and all came back with 26-27c for the cpu no mater what i do i have bios 3.3.
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ATA Configuration: SATA Only or PATA only, depending on which you want to be the FIRST BOOT device!
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P-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose SATA Only
PATA Channel Selection: Both
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Source: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=21469.0

Do the BIOS that fix CPU temps simply lie about it?

I have a Newcastle A64 3400 with the K8N Neo Platinum (W7030).
Whenever I turn on my PC from a period of inactivity the temp says 55-60C, when I then reset the PC it says the temperature is in the 30s.
The only place I could get my case temperature probe is wedged between the fins of my CPU heatsink and that always reads about 40C or up to 45C under load.
Can this be right? Which of these temperatures should I trust and would my heatsink generally be hotter than the temperature of the actual CPU?
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[865PE Neo2-PFS ] - No Boot Media

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CPU Temp too hot!!

Are these temperature readings normal?
Board = Neo2-PFS
Bios = 3.6
CPU = 3.0C Northwood HT Enabled, no OC
FSB = 199
Room TEMP = 22 C
CPU IDLE TEMP = 55 C
CPU LOAD, GAME, ETC = 75 C
System Idle = 38 C
System Load, GAME, ETC = 48 C
I live in Hawaii by the ocean, but it's not that hot here. I monitored these temperatures at 4PM during a windy, cloudy day. My temps don't go below 50C on idle unless it's early in the morning, say 4-6AM when I'm doing papers before school.
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SIS Xabre
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Hi "dalnap"
Now I presume you are using the stock intel cooler that came with the P4.
Those temps are too high and I would definately not run your processor at load until we fix it just incase.
Now wot u need to do it reseat your heatsink on your processor.
This means you will have to take off the heatsink and clean it with any heatsink cleaner or isoproppyl alcohol till the old thermal pad or paste is removed
Then put a little bit of thermal paste in between the heatsink and the processor (about the size of a grain of rice) and put the heatsink back on top of the processor.
So if you havent got any you will need to buy some thermal paste, Artic Silver III is meant to be good but if you use that it voids your intel warrenty so buy any other descent thermalpaste.
For reference if you are using stock your CPU temps should be about:
Idle 40C
Load 60C (max)
Hopefully this helps otherwise there are many other experienced users that will help you!
Good Luck
SAspaz

Questions on DOT with 865PE Neo2

I did the "Load High Performance Defaults" for the first time.
Just wondering if everyone experiences the same results??
I have read many thread here on problems, but want to post some
positive results and in the same breath have some questions.
I have burnt in the system and done some SiSoftware Sandra benchmarking
with good results. Also used Performance Test 4.0 software that gave a
PassMark of 344.5 and MegaFlops of 1243.3 This is running in the "Load Bios Defaults". So no DOT!!
When I set the High Performance Defaults, I have to go back into Integrated Periphials/ On chip IDE config to set the ATA config again for my hard drive that is connected to channel one of the S-ATA. Everyone, the Quick User Guide is just that, a guide. Would someone kindly explain the settings?? 1st, Does it make a difference with the S-ATA only or S-ATA and P-ATA in the ATA configuration??
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So far I have not experienced any crash in the High Performance Defaults mode and ran the SiSoftware Sandra last night for about 1 hour.
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SiSoftware Sandra performance of Maxtor drive
Buffered Read : 108 MB/s
Sequential Read : 48 MB/s
Random Read : 7 MB/s
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Sequential Write : 47 MB/s
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For SATA Only, SATA & PATA, PATA Only Qn, the answer is, there are differences in all these mode. 1st, if you switch to SATA only and PATA Keep Enabled to "NO", then you can only run SATA drives and no PATA drives. If you've switch to PATA and SATA, this will enabled you to run both types of drives in your system, but if you've encountered problems, then you may have to switched to SATA only and set PATA Keep Enabled to Yes. Hence for PATA Only, will means that this will enabled your system to support only PATA drives.
As for the coloring of the modes, I think that they are being purposely color coded for the ease of the user on the different options available.
D.O.T is supposed for you to adjust settings in a ranking order starting from Private status to General. Each has a certain increment percentage of the FSB starting from 3% to 10% Max. In your case, I don't think that you're o/cing through D.O.T yet, but having to run at high performance stablely is a good start.
HT- HyperThreading. This technology will virtually splits your current processor to run in Dual mode. As I've mentioned "Virtually", so it will only split your processor calculation and arthematics of your CPU into 2 so that each can process data transfer etc on its own and in turns giving more advantage to application and server like processing and not really in terms of gaming or other applications.
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Hello all. I've searched the forums and read alot of posts about my problem, but seem to be missing the information I am looking for. Let me tell you what is going on. I have the MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R mobo ver 1, P4 3.0 800FSB, 1 gig corsair twinx XMS 3200 CL2. My problem is when I try to use this RAM my system will not start. No Post, nothing and the D-bracket shows me memory error code. If I use a strip of crucial from my other PC everything works fine (the crucial is 333mhz at 512mb, cl3). I checked out the RAM compatability report on the MSI site and it was pretty confusing to me. I guess my question is, is my RAM compatible or is there a work around to using the XMS modules?
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Hi Dink,
great to see someone who has the same config as I have.
My System:
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (Bios 1.8)
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT
My system is running very stable with Ram-Settings at 2-3-3-6-8 in Turbo/Sergeant. Pls set your timings to these values. This should work.
Now a question to you. I have problems with the ATI 9800XT cards.
1) Do you also see stuttering or lags when running 3DMark2001SE? With ATI 9800XT Reference Cards I experience these lags also in the overlay mode and in Games when turning very fast (egoshooters). You can see what I mean when you install this little tool which changes the background of your WinXP desktop to a psychedelic wormhole: http://www.geisswerks.com/drempels/index.html
After you start this funny tool. Watch out for your desktop. If it isn't runnin 100% smooth you have the same problems as I have. The only 9800XT card which isn't causing this stuttering is the ASUS 9800XT. Could you pls. tell me if you also see these lags? You can increase the stuttering by copying some files from Dir1 to Dir2.
These lags have no impact of benchmark results!
2) Pls could you tell me what's the IRQ of your card? 16? Is it shared with the USB Controller?
3) Who is the manufacturer of your card? Ati itself or Hercules, HIS or Saphire??
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Greets Digit
from Germany

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Bye-bye Neo2-FIS2R BIOS v1.3!!!!

I notice the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R BIOS v1.3 has been taken off the US web site but not the Tiawan site (.tw). Anyone know why?? My guess it's either the legal battle with Intel over enabling PAT on the 865PE or they finally got it that this version of the BIOS is buggy as all get out.
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Lanio

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