865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum and PCI-e

Hello,
I am using a 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum atm, with an AGP slot GFX card. (9800 pro).
I want to upgrade to PCI-e and want a few pointers for a decent socket 478 board that is PCI-e ready. I don't want to have to change my CPU.
many thanx.

Indeed...
I was just pointing out that even the fastest agp card is lots slower then a midrage pci-e card.
I still think any upgrade to the agp system is a waste of money. CPU limitation ... 478 P4's rly aren't fast enough to feed modern gpu's
In case he still wants a agp card
the 7800GS is the obvious choise, and you might want to check out albatron's 7600GS agp card.
EDIT: this socket 478 asrock board has a pcie slot http://www.asrock.com/product/P4Dual-915GL.htm (don't forget to read the VGA card compatibility list on that page)
This one too: http://www.asrock.com/product/P4Twins-HDTV.htm

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SYSTEM SPEC: 400w PSU, Pentium 4 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB (HT), Matrox Parhelia 128 8x AGP card, MSI Neo2 PFS Platinum motherboard.
Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
It doesnt work and my system refuses to boot up. I checked out the specs of the 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum, and it says in the table that you can only use 400mhz DDR RAM with an 800mhz FSB processor (which I have). It says it supports 400mhz RAM, "DUAL CHANNEL", non-ECC, unbuffered memory, but no mention of "HIGH DENSITY" or "DUAL IN LINE". Is there a difference between "DUAL CHANNEL" and "DUAL IN-LINE". Also, does anyone know what the difference is between 128 x 4 and 128 x 64, they are both 1gb? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! I have seen some RAM from the same dealer which is not "HIGH DENSITY" and has the 128 x 4 configuration, and is still a 1gb module. Is that safe to buy? What RAM do I need (in detail) for my motherboard. Thanks!

Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
DDR means Double Data Rate RAM (in opposition to the SDRAM or Single Data Rate). DDR RAM bends the transfer rate for clock cycle. It can go quicker because it executes 2 instructions for cycle of clock of the RAM instead of an only instruction like it is the case of the SDR.

My "MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum" Is not working

I have an MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum and it has stopped working properly, I'm fairly sure that the problem is coming from the motherboard however I would like another person opinion.
Basically everytime i try to play a game it works for about 5 seconds then comes up with a bluse screen telling me to check Windows has needed to shut down because there has been an error and that it could be caused by drivers or that I need to disable BIOS caching and shadowing
So far I have tried disableing BIOS caching and shadowing. Changing the RAM around and using different modules. I have formatted the Hard Drive. Tried using a different graphics card. Reinstalled the BIOS. Uninstalled all the drivers and tried different ones.
None of this has made any difference.

Since you already have reformated/made a fresh OS install, here´s some things you can try…….
- Set dram voltage to 2.7v in bios
- Use Driver Cleaner when uninstalling VGA drivers
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3214.html
- Install latest IntelInf driver
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/Product_Filter.asp?ProductID=816
- DirectX
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A9B6820-BFBB-4799-9908-D418CDEAC197&displaylang=en
- Install Nvidia VGA drivers
If that don´t help……………
- Try another VGA card
- List 3,3v+12v amps on PSU

865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition and P4 3.2 fsb800 memory and colers

Hello guys is my first time in this forum
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My question is what Cooler is better than the box one from Intel?
What 512 memory are work perfect on this sistem?
thanks
Paulo

hi Tritek,
welcome to the forum.
1. do your system have problem with heat? What is the CPU temperature read? Is the stock fan too loud for you? There are lots of cooler out there, expensive one especially, are way better than Intel stock cooler. But do you need better cooler?
2. any 512MB DDR works. To work "perfect", you need DDR400 to fully utilize it.

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Core voltage stability on 865PE Neo2 PFS

I've just installed one of the new P-series NEO-2 MOBO's. Nice piece of work, although it seems there is still some work left to be done. Definite problems (although not serious) in Core center (althoug other posts indicate this may be indiginous to core center itself..)
More serious though is a reading of the processor core voltage.
I'm using a Celery 2.6, OC'd to 3.25G, FSB 125. Had to raise core voltage to 1.6V to get there, lower voltage led to crashes as low as FSB 104...
Recently, I looked at a scan of the core voltage (provided by Speedfan):
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I get the impression this board could do MUCH better with more stable voltage regulation.
Anyone seeing similar behaviour in other Neo2-boards? Am I missing a setting?(core-cell may be intervening) It's hard to imagine the PSU can't hack it.. 12V level is rock solid.
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1x corsair 3200 512MB @ 333
POV 5600 VIVO
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PSU: HEC 350 VD-PT (3.3V@28A, 5V@33A, 12V@15A)

I'm not worrying. Just a bit surprised we all make a bug fuzz about overclocking, increasing core voltage by 25 mV at a time, and suddenly ignoring it all and "accepting" 70 mV drops if we need processing power...
If the voltage regulator would be more robust, it would be able to maintain the Vcore to (much?) higher power ratings.
This board drops by roughly 70 mV, constituting 3 notches on the voltage setting tab.
I went up to 1.6V, and what I actually get is 1.52.....
To have 1.6 available under all conditions, I'd need to set to 1.7 (yes, I've tried), which is over the top for "normal" overclocking (not to mention considerably higher temperatures).
Anyway, I'd like to know what other boards are doing regarding Vcore stability. Anyone out there with additional data?
Maybe a new target for modifications? (if it's worth it...)

TEMPERATURE PROBLEM - 865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition!!!!!!

i using 865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition with Pentium 4 2.8E GHz
first time i using the temperature is 52degree, everytime i update the BIOS the temperature will sure rise up
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then 64degree
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Originally posted by Archangel
yes i have the pls edition of that board and i got "3.8". same problem
Hi,
Saw you sig and you have a powerful system........more than powerful than mine.
I noticed the 300w PSU....... to be honest, I think you CPU is working too hard as there is not enough power being supplied.......
Del

MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum and pci

i have a problem with my neo 2:
The mainboard dont recognize my Soundblaster audigy 2 zs.I tried every pci slot with bios 1.3, 1.36 bitpower and 1.4, but nothing.
Some one can help me?
this is my sistem: A64 3500+ winchester | MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum | OCZ EL PC-3200 DC Plat. Rev. 2 2X512 MB | Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 | Powercolor X800 XT Platinum Edition | Hitachi 7K250 80GB SATA | Maxtor D740X 40GB ATA | Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 40GB ATA

no overclock at moment and the sound card of mb is disabled.
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K8N NEO4 Platinum and PCIE Clock

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I have a big problem with this motherboard and Video card.
I have set CPU clock at 250mhz (because I have DDR500), now the PCE clock is 100mhz. Is synchronous with CPU clock? If yes is there a moltiplicator to change the PCIE clock(my videocard is 400mhz), because It provokes artefacts in the Post , in the bios,and continues shutdown of the system( first appears the windows “VPU RECOVER”, than shutdown) and the visualization is full of artefacts.
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865PE Neo2-PFS + Bios 3.A0: CPU Temp

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This should fix my temp problems.
But what's a good temp for a Pentium 4 3.0E? (Prescott)
I'm using a boxed cooler (What's a good (Silent) replacement?)
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CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Please post your CPU Temp! And what kind of cooler you are using!
I haven't run a stressed temp test yet...

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Originally posted by Wolvman
If installed the newest bios, 3.A0:
This should fix my temp problems.
But what's a good temp for a Pentium 4 3.0E? (Prescott)
I'm using a boxed cooler (What's a good (Silent) replacement?)
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 57°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Please post your CPU Temp! And what kind of cooler you are using!
I haven't run a stressed temp test yet...
I'm using a kingwin Arctic Liquid Cooler
First hour:
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 41°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Second hour:
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 51°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 53°

[865PE Neo2-PFS ] - No Boot Media

ive got everything installed and when I put in my XP Cd, I get a black screen with a blinking _ and nothing happens. Is there something im not doing or someing ive done wrong??
Thanks for your help

You can flash from anything, but flashing from a floppy is dangerous. You can boot from a USB stick and flash from it. You can boot from a Win98/ME cd and flash from a ram drive. There is a link in my signature for booting from a USB stick.
This will show how to flash from a cd:
Go to this thread. Download the zip file and burn the iso image on it to a cd. If you don't have software for burning ISO images there is a link in my signature to a free one.
Download the bios and flash program from the motherboard page and put in a directory on your hard drive.
Put the CD in the tray, reboot, and press the F11 key to select the cd drive to boot from. The cd drive becomes a:, c: is a ramdrive, and your c: drive shows up as d:, etc.
Change to c: (the ramdrive)
Copy the flash program and bios image from d: (your 'real' c: drive)
Flash away.

[Intel] Did you OC your P4 2.8 Northwood/Prescott on 865PE-NEO2-LS? Yes=post here plz!

I'm still looking for some starting reference points for anyone that might have successfully overclocked their P4 2.8Ghz CPU on an 865PE-NEO2-LS board, especially the Northwood. If you were able to successfully accomplish this, please post your specs here. So far (further testing is needed to confirm stability), here is only what I've got:
I'm also open to any further ideas/suggestions if you would like to offer...
Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD   Disabled
CAS# Latency   3
RAS# Precharge   4
RAS# to CAS# Delay   4
Precharge Delay   8
Burst Length   8
AGP Aperture Size   128
FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE
Performance Mode (slow, fast, turbo, Ultra Turbo)   SLOW
DRAM Frequency   AUTO
Adjust CPU Bus Clock (Mhz)   222
DDR Clock (Mhz)   444
Adjust AGP/PCI Clock (Mhz)   66.66/33.33
CPU Vcore Adjust   Yes
CPU Vcore   1.5375
DDR Power Voltage   2.7500
AGP Power Voltage   1.6000
SiSoftware Sandra Prof. 2005 System Info
Front Side Bus Speed (4x)/Memory Bus Speed (2x)   222
Front Side Bus Data Rate (FSB Speed x4)   888
Memory Bus Speed (FSB Speed x2)   444
CPU SPEED (GHz with 14x multiplier)   3.11
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ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES
DRAM Timing Setting…
Configure SDRAM Timing by SPD Enabled
CAS# Latency 2.5 Clocks
RAS# Precharge 2 Clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay 3 Clocks
Precharge Delay 5 Clocks
Burst Length 8
AGP Aperture Size 128
FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE
Performance Mode
(slow, fast, turbo, Ultra Turbo)TURBO
CPU Ratio Selection Locked
DRAM Frequency 400 Mhz
Spread Spectrum Disabled
Adjust CPU Bus Clock (Mhz) 200
DDR Clock (Mhz) 400
Adjust AGP/PCI Clock (Mhz) 66.66/33.33
CPU Vcore Adjust No
CPU Vcore 1.5250V
DDR Power Voltage 2.65V
AGP Power Voltage 1.50V
SiSoftware Sandra Prof. 2005 System Info
Front Side Bus Speed ( 4 x ) 203
Front Side Bus Data Rate (203x4) 812
Memory Bus Speed (2 x) 203
Memory Bus Speed (203x2) 406
CPU SPEED (GHz with 14x multiplier) 2.84
865PE-NEO2-LS (601-6728-020)
AMI BIOS version 2.3 (7-16-2004)
P4 Northwood, Socket 478, 2.8 Ghz/800Mhz FSB HT Enabled
4 DIMMS (256MBx4)=1GB KingMax PC3200 DDR400, Model # MPXB62D-38KT3R-PEA Speed PC3200
PowMAX PS LP-8800D, 400 watt, max load +3.3@28A,+5@30A,+12@25A,[email protected],[email protected],+5vsb@2A, 70% min@full load
INTEL 865 .INF Drivers (6.0.1.1002 5/7/2004)
Main: Western Digital Raptor, 10K rpm, 36GB
2nd: Maxtor ATA133 7200rpm 120GB
CD-RW: Lite-On 52x32x52
BFG Tech GeForce 6800 GT OC 256MB Graphics Card
SoundBlaster Audigy 2

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Obviously, my next question would be is how well does the 3.4 Ghz Northwood O/C - isn't the ceiling about 4Ghz?

Neo2 PFS fails to boot with Win2k SP4

After install Win2K SP4, my hdd wasnt able to boot into windows anymore.
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MSI 865PE NEO2 PFS
2x Kingston DDR 400 256MB RAM
maxtor 30gb hdd

i reformatted and redownload SP4 several times but after i reboot pc, i always get a blue screen... Stop: inacessible boot drive.
I tried SP2 and winXP and i encounter another blue screen...
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Kingston ValuRAM DDR400 runs only 333Mhz in Dual Channel, why?(865PE Neo2-LS)

Hi!
I have a problem. I've installed two DDR400 Ram moduls in my 865PE Neo2-LS motherboard and the memory runs only at 333Mhz. I cannot change the DDR clock, it always shows 333. What can i do to make my memories run at 400Mhz?
KINGSTON VALUE RAM PC3200 512MB CL 2.5 and KINGSTON VALUE RAM PC3200 512MB CL 3.0. The different CL value is the problem? According MSI my motherboard supports DDR400 Dual Channel.
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B.Tomas,
One more thing I forgot to mention and I am not sure if you have done it already is I did up my memory voltage to 2.7 to get it to run without any errors
As Serious states you must use a " Dual Channel" kit. I tried to run "DualChannel" with two sticks that were exactly the same specs{or so I thought} but bought at different times and I had nothing but trouble.
I did update my bios but only because I am running a Prescott I am not sure if this has anything to do with why my memory is working.
Dave

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I was given a computer with an 865pe Neo2-s motherboard and the system worked fine. The system has 2 hard drives a 40gb ide seagate and a 250gb SATA seagate. I loaded windows xp onto the sata drive without issue. I inadvertently flashed the bios with v2.5 and now I can't get the system to boot windows. The chipset is a ICH5 (not raid). What are the bios settings and drive jumper settings I should be using to setup the SATA drive as the boot. I also have 2 CD/DVD drives on IDE1, the IDE seagate is on IDE2 setup as master.

Q: How to enable both SATA and PATA?
You can use both Legacy mode and Native mode, depending on how many devices you use as described above.
For Legacy Mode:
ATA Configuration: PATA+SATA
S-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes
P-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes
PATA Channel Selection: Both
Combined Mode Operation: PATA First/SATA First, depending on which you want to act as 1st Channel.
S-ATA Ports Definition: P0-1st/P1-2nd or P0-3rd/P1-4th, depending on which you want to act as Master.
For Native Mode:
ATA Configuration: SATA Only or PATA only, depending on which you want to be the FIRST BOOT device!
S-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose PATA only
P-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose SATA Only
PATA Channel Selection: Both
Combined Mode Operation: PATA First/SATA First, depending on which you want to act as 1st Channel.
S-ATA Ports Definition: - P0-1st/P1-2nd or P0-3rd/P1-4th, depending on which you want to act as Master.
Q: What is S-ATA Ports Definition?
There are two options: P0-1st/P1-2nd and P0-3rd/P1-4th. If you choose P0-1st/P1-2nd, your Port-0 S-ATA (SER-1) will become the 1st IDE Master, ie IDE-1 Master. and Port-1 S-ATA (SER-2) will become 2nd IDE Master. If you plan to boot with SATA HDD, it's recommended to set to P0-1st/P1-2nd. If you plan to boot with PATA HDD, it's recommended to set to P0-3rd/P1-4th.
Q: When I enable SATA+PATA mode, why only IDE-1 or IDE-2 can be used?
If you chose "SATA 1st Channel", IDE-1 will be dropped. If you chose "PATA 1st Channel", IDE-2 will be dropped.
Q: I want my SATA to be the 1st IDE drive in Legacy Mode along with PATA, how?
Set this:
ATA Configuration: PATA+SATA
S-ATA Keep Enabled: don't care
P-ATA Keep Enabled: don't care
PATA Channel Selection: don't care
Combined Mode Operation: SATA 1st Channel
S-ATA Ports Definition: P0-1st/P1-2nd
With this configuration, you can have your SER-1 and SER-2 act as IDE-1 master and slave. But you can only connect your PATA drives on IDE-2 slot.
Source: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=21469.0

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