865PE Neo2-V memory issue

hey guys, i just put a fresh system together and i am having trouble with my corsair memory when i try to boot the system before i begin installing an operation system. I have 2 512mb pc3200 ddr sticks and 3 dimm slots to put the 2 in. My problem is that my system will only ask for a system disk if only one is plugged in (plugged into the purple one, the others are like neon greenish), if i plug in the second memory chip, i do not get the insert boot disk screen. Any sugguestions?
-thanks!

i am trying to run a p4 3.0 ghz prescott 1 mb cache with 1 gig of pc 3200 ddr (2 512mb sticks) memory. My issue is with the memory, my board supports the memory but when i put both chips in the memory slots, the pc refuses to boot, but if i only but one of the chips in, the pc asks for a boot disk as it should. The hard drive has no OS installed currently. I am trying to do that now. The hard drive is 120 gigs 7200 rpm 8 mb buffer. I read the manual and it had something in there about Dimm slots but i never heard anything quite like it before. Basically i want to know why my motherboard is only liking one 512 stick rather than both of them together.

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865PE Neo2-FIS2R, memory question!

Hi!
I´m thinking of buying memory for the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R mother board and have a few doubts that are on my mind.
1. If I want to use DualMode memory, should I use 256+256 or 512+512.
Lets assume that I buy 2x 256MB and uses them as DualMode.
Can I later put another 2 x 256MB into the computer and use them all as DualMode, (256+256+256+256) or is only possible to use 2 of each size.
Maybee I should buy 1x of 512MB and use it as SingeMode and later complement with another 512 and use them as DualMode.
hmmmmm.......any point of views?
The memory I´m talking about is:
Corsair CMX256A-3500C2 256Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
Corsair CMX512-3500C2 512Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
I assume that they are the same as MSI has in its
"DDR400 Memory Modules Qualified Vender List " and should work just fine with the motherboard.
Regards
WiGGoW

I would not go with that brand of ram. There are alot of issues being talked about involving that ram in this forum. I recommend Kingston and so does MSI. Keep in mind to obtain Ultr-Turbo in Bios you need to buy a latency of 2 or you will get an error message and your bios will reset to slow.

865PE NEO2 FIS2R memory problem

I have this 865PE NEO2 FIS2R with a 3ghz northwood (512K cache, 800 fsb).
initially I bought a 1GB Geil PC3500 DDR dual channel kit. installed those into slot 1 and 3, installed windows...during install I would get blue screens. recently I bought a new PC-3700 DDR dual channel kit (industry standard generic stuff). I bought those cause the place I got it from claimed it works on the i875 NEO FIS2R. I figured if it works on the 875P, it should work on the 865PE. with the new memory I get blue screens a tad more often.
I tried both geil sticks again this time as single channel in slots 1 and 2 (Ch. A). I still got blue screens. I did the same with the new PC-3700 RAM, blue screens with that too.
I took those sticks out, and tried 1 Geil PC-3500 stick in slot 1, no blue screens.
Whats the deal here? shouldn't dual channel memory work as dual channel in a dual channel board? WHy can't I use 2 sticks of the same RAM in this board!
is it just incompatiable with geil dual channel? If so what about the PC-3700 RAM I tried as dual. I am thinking about trying a set of OCZ dual channel RAM, but I feel I already got $400 worth of RAM I can't use, I don't really want to waste another $200 if this is just a crappy board.
I'm thinking of just getting the new Asus with the SiS 655TX chipset, supposed to be faster anyway. 2 sticks of RAM would most likely work in that board.
I really don't want to spend anymore money on this though...I spent enough.
the specs:
P4 3ghz northwood
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (with updated 2.3 bios)
Chieftech 650 watt Power supply 36A, 36A, & 32A
BFG geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB (also tried an old geforce 2 mx 32MB)
memory tried: 1GB geil PC-3500 dual channel kit & 1GB generic dual channel kit
3com Network interface card
WD 120GB SE hard drive
Plextor 8X DVD-RW drive
Lite on 16X DVDROM drive

This problem is not yet solved....
I tried increasing the ram voltage to 2.8v, it ran fine for about 3 days...then boom..restart
I am seeing other people are having the same problem with these 865/875 boards.
after raising the ram voltage didn't work I tried unplugging all of my extra hard drives 1 by 1 with the memory set to 2.7v.
I am at the point where I have only my boot drive connected with the two DVD drives.
But I am still thinking its my power supply...that power supply caculator page says I need a 519 watt PS?? I have a true550 which is only 530 watt max.
If I do need to add 20% to the power calculated, I would need a 622 watt PS???
I am running speedfan now....how low is the voltages ok to drop to?
the +12 dropped to 11.19, max is 11.80
the rest of the voltages are staying more or less constant .
Oh yea, on occasion the nb fan stops, I get a warning in corecenter saying 0 RPMs.
Also I can't set the fans to high speed, 6000RPM for the nb, and 5000RPM for the CPU.
If I set corecenter to user, and move the slide up to 8, the max is only 3375RPM for the CPU and 3750RPM for the NB fan.
Also every once in awhile the power LED on my case will go out while the system is running.
But thats been doing that for awhile now!
I'm thinking I will connect up my other hard drives again and run this speed fan program again.
update:
I reconnected my drives, ran speed fan, noticed it stops responding after 10 min...I get an error saying smbus cannot be scanned...or something like that.
Also I've got errors when downloading saying I have no ports available. it sounds like the bus is shutting down??
This is not the only MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R I have ran into problems with
it looks like I will be getting a new board next week....either an Asus or Abit.

865PE Neo2-V Memory problems

Hello
I have a 865PE Neo2-V motherboard that only has 3 DIMM slots. I recently purchased 3 Kingston Value PC-3200 400MHz DDR 1G sticks and installed them in all 3 slots. When I booted the computer, the BIOS (and windows) only reported 2G, not 3G.
Is there a setting or something that I need to change in order to have it report 3G? The manual and on-line resources have told me that it will take up to 4G (hard to do with only 3 slots).
I've moved two sticks around to each of the various slots, (ie: Slot 1 and 3, slot 1 and 2, etc...) and it will show 2G, but when the 3rd stick is installed, the BIOS never sees it.
Thanks
Babs

Ok, here is the memory listing for the CPU-z file:
Memory SPD
DIMM #            1
SMBus address      0x50
   Memory type      DDR
   Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
   Size         1024 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC3200 (200 MHz)
   Part number      K
   Serial number      8528278A
   Manufacturing date   Week 38/Year 10
   Number of banks      2
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Registered      no
   Buffered      no
   Nominal Voltage      2.50 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
   JEDEC #2      3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz
DIMM #            2
SMBus address      0x51
   Memory type      DDR
   Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
   Size         1024 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC3200 (200 MHz)
   Part number      K
   Serial number      8528408A
   Manufacturing date   Week 38/Year 10
   Number of banks      2
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Registered      no
   Buffered      no
   Nominal Voltage      2.50 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
   JEDEC #2      3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz
DIMM #            3
   SMBus address      0x52
   Memory type      DDR
   Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
   Size         1024 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC3200 (200 MHz)
   Part number      K
   Serial number      0125364E
   Manufacturing date   Week 37/Year 10
   Number of banks      2
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Registered      no
   Buffered      no
   Nominal Voltage      2.50 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
   JEDEC #2      3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz
and the speed registers...
DIMM #            1
SPD registers
      00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
   00   80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01
   10   0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80
   20   60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00
   30   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9
   40   7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00
   50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 26 85
   60   28 27 8A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   70   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   80   00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF
   90   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   A0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   F0   39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C
DIMM #            2
SPD registers
      00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
   00   80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01
   10   0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80
   20   60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00
   30   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9
   40   7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00
   50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 26 85
   60   28 40 8A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   70   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   80   00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF
   90   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   A0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   F0   39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C
DIMM #            3
SPD registers
      00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
   00   80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01
   10   0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80
   20   60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00
   30   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9
   40   7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00
   50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 25 01
   60   25 36 4E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   70   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   80   00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF
   90   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   A0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   F0   39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C

865pe neo2-p Memory question

HI all
Hope someone can answer me a question
I have a 865pe noe2-p mobo , i have just stuck in x 4 1 gig ddr400 mem modules
The Specs of the board state as per MSI site that this board can support 4 gig , yet my bios is only reporting 3.1 gig
Mem modules are showing as dual channel in bios
Bios version is up to date ver 3.a , as per live update
CPU intell celeron 2.53 ghz clocked up to 2.92 ghz
4 gig Kingston DDR400 mem
Nvidea 6600
sata hdd's , 500 gig and 160 gig
is there something i am missing here to enable this board to see 4 gig of mem as per the specs of the board
I am only running XP and fully understand the SW limitation ,
I do not see this as being issue with SW , this seems to stem back to the board not picking the correct amount of ram installed
Has anybody else see this ?
Is there a resolve ?
Thanks in advance
Tadkin

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is there something i am missing here to enable this board to see 4 gig of mem as per the specs of the board
I am only running XP and fully understand the SW limitation ,
I do not see this as being issue with SW , this seems to stem back to the board not picking the correct amount of ram installed
The software limitation you are talking about is only one side of the coin. The memory adress decode space of the chipsets memory controller is restricted to 32bit addressing before software (operating system) ever comes into play. Part of this adress space needs to be reserved for other system devices and cannot be used for system memory addressing. No mainboard featuring an Intel 865PE Chipset was ever (or will ever) be able to fully address 4GB of system memory. This is a chipset rather than a board or BIOS limitation. It is not even a problem but a hardware restriction that was only overcome severl chipset generations later (Intel P965 and 975X to be precise).

Neo2 plat memory issues

Well, I have to complain first like everyone else I am really not happy with this board, haven't gone with MSI in a long time and doubt I will again. This is my second neo2, and I can't seem to solve the problem. This replacement board will do over 280fsb so I guess that is a plus, but anyway on with my story... system is winchseter 3200+, antec neopower 480w, x800 xtpe, audigy 2...
I have a 1gb OCZ PC4200 EL kit, the sticks are not memtet stable together in dual channel at stock speeds (ddr533 2.5-3-3-8), they error out in under 2 minutes with test #5. I have tried 2.75v to 2.85v, and with the CPU underlocked by 200 mhz... I even tried using my ddr booster to apply these voltages. Yet when I run each stick by itself at these speeds they will pass memtest every time. If I clock down to ddr440, the sticks will complete a 16mb superpi in dual channel and pass memtest. I have a 50cfm sunon fan blowing on the dimms. I have stripped my machine down to nothing but a cpu fan, floppy drive and a pci voodoo 4 to see if power waas the issue. Lastly, yesterday I picked up another 3200+ just to see if it was the ondie memory controller that was the problem. I have been talking with OCZ on this one as well, the frusturating thing is I hav RMA'ed two 1gb VX kits before this one, so is the problem really the memory? I just don't know anymore which is why I'm here looking for suggestions. I have also tried slots 3&4. This whole thing started back in January, its now the end of Feb and my system still doesn't work properly
Thanks in advance.

I can't see the MSI problem here?
You have a Winchester CPU, as above mentioned, it's extremely picky with memory. That's AMD-related, not MSI.
You can successfully run the motherboard to a FSB @ 280MHz, is that bad? I believe that 200MHz is what the components are designed for? So, again, not MSI-related. This is user-related.
If you're dissatisfied with the overclocking features of your Winchester, go get another CPU. Quit complaining about MSI's supposed inferior board. Also, OC-related posts should be made in the OC forum section.

K8N Neo2 Platinum Memory Issues

I have two Super Talent 512 DDR PC3200/400MHZ Memory Modules and attempting to use them as dual channel. I am getting some funny behaviour however. In windows mode, whenever I try to do something memory intensive the machine crashes and reboots. Normally I would say that this is an issue with a bad chip, run memtest86 and determine which chip is bad. Well the results are a bit strange. When ever I run memtest with both modules in either banks 0 and 1 or 2 and 3 (dual channel configuration) I get memory errors. I then test each module separately in bank 1 and get no errors. Do I have a setting wrong somewhere? Could this possibly be incompatible ram?
Can someone please enlighten me as to why this might be happening? If its a settings issue it would be helpful to know where and how I should set this. If it is a compatibility issue it would be very helpful to know what brands of memory people have used successfully for dual channel so that I don't get stuck with this problem again.
Thank you very much for any assistance anyone can offer.
Channon

Did you purchase the RAM from a 'chain' retailer? - like Best Buy or Circuit City, etc.? If so it is most likely dual-channel RAM. Now if you got them from your local 'junk peddler dealer' (that's what I call them) and the RAM chips were not sealed in a manufacturer's package, with their name on it, then you may have gotten screwed.
You can try installing one stick in slot 1 and the other in slot 3. That should set the system to single-channel mode. See if it runs okay and then run Memtest again. If the test passes then you've got yourself a set of 'fake' dual DDR. :(
If you got them at Best Buy (or whatever) that is a large store with a good replacement policy, you should have no trouble exchanging the RAM for a new set... and MAKE SURE THE PACKAGE SAYS DUAL-CHANNEL.
Now on the other hand... if they came from a local computer shop, take them back to where you got them, shove them in the guy's face... tell him he's a liar and will replace your RAM with the correct sticks. If he refuses you can always shove each chip into his eye sockets to get your revenge.

MSI K8T NEO2-FIR Memory Issue

Windows XP shows only 1/2 of the memory I have installed in my case 256MB.
My motherboard is MSI K8T NEO2-FIR. I installed one memory module
KingMax PC3200 DDR400 512MB recommended by MSI in DIMM1.
I will appreciate any help!
My System:
CPU - AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
MB - MSI K8T NEO2-FIR Socket 939
BIOS - Version : AMIINT - 10
HDD - Seagate SATA 2x160GB RAID 0
Video - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
PSU - ZALMAN ZM400A-APF
CD/DVD - Plextor PX-712A DVD±R/RW
Memory - KingMax 512MB DDR400
Monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 700NF(T)
OS - Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP1

Please provide specs as outlined in Forum Rules. Espeically what BIOS you have installed.

[865PE/G Neo2 Series] DDR Memory with 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum

SYSTEM SPEC: 400w PSU, Pentium 4 3.2ghz 800mhz FSB (HT), Matrox Parhelia 128 8x AGP card, MSI Neo2 PFS Platinum motherboard.
Hi there. Im looking for some serious help with my computer. I have a MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum mobo and have been using 512mb DDR RAM with it- the ram is PC2700 (333mhz), non-ECC, ubuffered, non-parity, 184 pin. Now, I have just purchased a new DIMM. This one is
1gb PC3200 (400mhz), non-ECC, Unbuffered, non-parity, HIGH DENSITY- DUAL IN LINE, 128 x 64, 184 pin
It doesnt work and my system refuses to boot up. I checked out the specs of the 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum, and it says in the table that you can only use 400mhz DDR RAM with an 800mhz FSB processor (which I have). It says it supports 400mhz RAM, "DUAL CHANNEL", non-ECC, unbuffered memory, but no mention of "HIGH DENSITY" or "DUAL IN LINE". Is there a difference between "DUAL CHANNEL" and "DUAL IN-LINE". Also, does anyone know what the difference is between 128 x 4 and 128 x 64, they are both 1gb? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! I have seen some RAM from the same dealer which is not "HIGH DENSITY" and has the 128 x 4 configuration, and is still a 1gb module. Is that safe to buy? What RAM do I need (in detail) for my motherboard. Thanks!

Always useful with a complete systemspec.including PSU and biosversion, so please make one.
Can´t see anything wrong with the basic RAM specification - it also matches the MoBo basic specifications:
- Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 2.5V DDR SDRAM.
- Supports up to 4GB memory size without ECC.
- Supports Dual channel DDR266/333/400/433/466/500/533 MHz and up.
Have you tried removing the old RAM and booting only with the new 1GB stick alone ?
Using mixed RAM, sometimes works in "Single mode" (see mobo manual), but is not recommended.
Running Dual-channel ( 2x512 or 1024x2 ) is preferable and gives best performance, but then you need two identical sticks.
You may also need to increase RAM voltage some in bios (example 2.7v) to achieve best stability.
If you have some RAM compability issues with 1GB sticks - 2x512 RAM stick would be safer and give better performance, unless your aiming for more then 2GB in total.
You can also read about the RAM testreport here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6728v2.0/memory.pdf
About "Dual In line Memory Module" - I think it´s the long version for older DIMM description.
Just like "Double Data Rate" is the long version for DDR RAM.
DDR means Double Data Rate RAM (in opposition to the SDRAM or Single Data Rate). DDR RAM bends the transfer rate for clock cycle. It can go quicker because it executes 2 instructions for cycle of clock of the RAM instead of an only instruction like it is the case of the SDR.

865PE Neo2-FIS2R and Geil memory problem

With 512MB (2x256) of Corsair XMS 3700, the system is perfectly stable (runs 24/7 crunching for UD, also have done Prime95 torture test).
With 1-GB (2x512) of Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum, the system is very unstable. It usually won't even boot fully into Windows without a BSOD (which vary) or if it does get into Windows it crashed soon thereafter.
If I put the Corsair memory back in (like I have them right now, to be able to use the system to post this message), the system is back to 100% stable, so it seems to be entirely a memory-related problem.
MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R (MS-6728)
Intel P4 2.4C 800FSB (HT enabled) @ 3.19-GHz
AVC Sunflower 2 HSF
420-W PS
Windows XP Pro SP1a
BIOS settings:
Dynamic OC Disabled
Performance mode Slow
DRAM Freq 266
CPU Bus 266
DDR Clock 354
AGP/PCI 67/34
CPU vCore 1.6000
DDR volts 2.70
AGP volts 1.50
SPD Disabled
3-4-4-8, 4 burst
Have run MemTest standard test on the Geil modules individually and as a pair, and have tried different slots. Testing thus far shows no errors when each module is installed separately, but when used in a pair there are sometimes errors shown.
Have tried the modules in slots 1,3 and slots 2,4 with no difference.
Have tried setting DDR voltage from 2.70 up to 2.85v for the Geil (approved up to 2.9v) with no apparent change in stability.
Have tried changing Spread Spectrum setting between enabled and disabled. Disabled seems to be better, but problem remains.
Have tried using SPD disabled with settings listed above, and SPD enabled (which sets timings at 2.5-4-4-8,8).
Edit: I'd asked for advice, but then realized that the very limited timeframe in which I could return the Geil would expire if I waited beyond business hours today. So I've RMA'd the Geil and have ordered a 1-GB Corsair TwinX XMS 3700 pack instead.

I've had similar problems to you but with Corsair TwinX LL's and if you read back a month in this forum you will see others have also with various memories on the 865 FISR.
The fix I found was Kingston memory but others have had problems with Kingston. There was a thread running a week or two ago attempting to document successful memory mobo combinations.
Bottom line, stick with what works on your mobo until MSI fix the incompatability/instability issues.

865PE NEO2 FSIR fails memory tests

This is the second MB that I've had this problem with, so something is causing them to fail. Here's the story:
New install, 865PE Neo2 FSIR + P4 2.6GHz 800MHz FSB, 2 x Crucial PC3200 256MB DDR, everything seems ok, XP installs with no problems.
About a month down the road I'm plagued by sudden reboots, Microsoft Error Reporting says RAM, says to DL and run it's DOS memory check utility. I get the utility, create bootable CD and run the utility, computer fails all RAM checks. I pull each RAM stick in turn and re-run the check with each stick separately, still fails all tests. Shortly after this, the board refuses to POST. Ship the board back to New Egg for replacement.
Installed replacement MB with 4 x 256MB Crucial PC3200, Microsoft DOS memory check program passes, no problems. About 2 weeks later I run into minor instability so I run the same memory check again, the board fails all tests????? I pull all Crucial memory sticks and put in a test stick of Corsair XMS 3200; same result, failure of all memory tests.
At this point, WinXP still runs, but this is the same pattern that the other board showed, right until it quit altogether.
It occurs to me that I DID flash BIOS to 1.9 between the time I first tested the RAM and got a pass and the time I tested and got a failure, could this be a coincidence? I can't remember if I updated the BIOS on the first board or not, so this may mean nothing.
System Specs:
MSI 865PE NEO2 FSIR
P4 2.6GHz, 800MHz FSB (all defaults, no overclock, Vantec HS)
Crucial CT3264Z40B.8T PC3200, CL3 256MB (2 Modules)
Crucial CT3264Z40B.8T2 PC 3200, CL3 256MB (2 Modules)
(Tested with same results with single Corsair CMX512-3200C2PT 512MB)
Antex True Power 430W PS
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
All PCI slots open
Seagate 120GB System drive, 7,200RPM primary master
IBM 30GB drive, 7,200RPM primary slave
LiteOn DVD ROM secondary master
Sony CDRW secondary slave
2 x IBM 30GB drives on Promise PATA.
I know I'm probably gonna have to RMA this board, but I'd really like to know what is causing this so I can avoid it next time.
If anyone has any ideas I'd sure appreciate it.
Scott

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Originally posted by jwspicer
As they say - been there, done that. Always flash using DOS, and always keep backup, so I went back to the original BIOS for the board. No luck. Apparently once the screwup is done - it stays that way.
--BUT--
Suspect it is the reallocation for the P4 EE that is the issue. Reason is that Memtest86 has been running on that box for 9 hours now with NO error. However, it also shows only 104K of reserved memory. My other 865 board with onboard RAID (an ASUS P4P800 Deluxe) shows 687K reserved. So either the ASUS is wasting a lot of space, or the MIS is no longer correctly indicating the amount of memory reserved by the BIOS (including the Promise BIOS) at startup. Then Microsoft's utility is not correctly scanning. But Memtest, which probes for the "correct" setting, is. (The Memtest86 version is 3.0, and the test was done with the Promise enabled and drives attached (so the BIOS loads) and all the other setup was as it would be normally (standard IBOS options, etc.)
So who's right? And if MS' tool has the problem, does that indicate Windows XP reads memory the same way? Hmmm...
Hmm, I haven't tried reverting BIOS, but I'm typing this on the affected machine (which Memtest 86 says is fine) with only the two RAM chips it likes and so far no problems; I've run PCMark4 and 3DMark4 benchmarks all night and no problems, it was still happily churning away on 3DMark this morning. I guess either one of the Crucial sticks it doesn't like is bad or Crucial changed something in a revision to the chips it doesn't like.
Just a FYI, the Crucial sticks it DOESN'T like are CT3264Z40B.8T2
The sticks it DOES like (at slow or fast performance, forget about turbo or ultra turbo) are CT3264Z40B.8T
Both pairs are PC3200, CL3, 256MB DIMM's, single sided.
I think you're right about Microsoft's RAM tester being buggy, I can't believe ANYTHING could run if the RAM was actually giving the errors it shows, EVERY test shows things like "expected result 11111111 actual result ff1e0001" The Microsoft tester does run fine on the other 5 computers here; a mix of laptops and desktops; none using this board. It also ran on this board when it was installed, I guess the BIOS upgrade must be the cause.
Scott

Using 3 Memory modules on 865PE Neo2-V

Hi ! I wonder if it´s possible to install three 512MB DDR 400 sticks on a 865PE Neo2-V motherboard (As it has only 3 slots) Will it work as DDR, even if one channel has 1GB and the other 512MB ???
BTW, I´ve always used two 512 MB sticks on one channel (same color slots) Should I see any performance increase if I switch one stick to the other channel ? (one green and one purple)
Thanks for your help !!!

Quote from: Maesus on 23-February-06, 06:28:03
If you want dual channel performance, make sure you plug the DIMM at slot 1 and slot 3; or slot 2 and slot 4. If you have 3 DIMMs and plug them all, you will not have dual-channel performance but you have 512MB more RAM, which will definitely help to reduce the amount of transfer of virtual memory in your HDD and thus improve the overall performance.
So I understand that 1,5 GB of RAM on Single Channel will perform better than 1 GB on Dual Channel ?

[865PE NEO2 PFISR] Won't boot with added memory

Recently I upgraded a few items on my PC which has been running fine for 18 months or so. I changed out the video card and bought double the memory of the same brand and type it had in it. I went from 1gig (2 sticks) and added two more sticks. But now it won't boot. The power is on but no output whatsoever.
I RMA'd the memory thinking that might be the problem but it's the same with the new set. I tried all sorts of memory/slot combos. Basically, the new memory works fine if you swap it out in bank A with the old stuff. That's how it's running right now, so I know all of the sticks are good. I can take a third and put it in either slot bank B and it'll boot, but obviously not run properly. But any combination of these four sticks and the system won't boot!
Please help!
I'm running this system:
Win XP (SP1 I believe)
865PE NEO2 PFISR
P4/3.0CGHz, 800M 478P/512K HT
DDR Corsair 512MB X4 (400)
Dual 80gb samsung HDs running SATA
Sapphire X800GTO 256M video card
Antec Sonata case
TruePower 380Watt ATX12V

What brand, model, and speed are the RAM sticks. Did you check your Test Report booklet which came with the mobo. If you can't find it, you can go to the MSI website and look for your MOBO and get the test report that way. Some brands/models will that have been tested are shown in the report to be okay in all 4 slots, some only test okay in 2 or 3. Check this report and if it is one of the brands/model/speed tested you will see how it fared. It may well be you the MOBO doesn't like your RAM in 3 or 4 slots.
Maybe I missed it, but did you try each slot with only one stick at a time? You may also have a bad RAM slot.

865PE Neo2(6728) D-Bracket hangs at Memory Detection Test

This is terribly annoying... I just bought the mother board... Its a 865PE Neo2(6728)800mhzFSB the processor is P4 2.4ghz 800mhz, 512k l2-Cache. I dont know who made it like i know nothing about northwood or whatever, it says Intel on the box... I have 512MB of "Legacy Electronics" PC3200 64x64 DDR... I also just bought a NVdia G4 Ti-4200 64mb DDR 4x AGP made by Pixelview. I have a 160GB WD 8mb Cache 7200 HD... Ok the problem is when i go to boot up the computer, the VIDEO doesnt come on, and when i installed the "D-Bracket" the lights hang at 3 light, top right green all other red... Says in the manual that problem is memory detection test, testing onboard memory size, will hang if damaged or not installed properly. Ok. I have no idea how that wo;uld happen so, just to check i took out RAM, no dice, i changed video cards to MX440 G4, no dice, i tried disconnection the PCI slot which has the 160GB hard drive connected(why it needs this i dont know, according to WD WinXP needs...) none of this changes anything.. How do i check the onboard memory or could it be anything else? Ok thats all i have thanks for the help!!

Did you tried to boot up the system without the D-Bracket?
Yes it still does nothing, no video... Thats why i put in the D-Bracket. It doesnt sound like its going through the POST either.. I dont know if computers do that anymore thou;gh haha..
If you did, did you change to another piece of RAM to test?
I have no more DDR to put in, only SDRam and im sure that wont work.. I tried moving to different slots, 1 3 and 4 thinking maybe it was backwords i dunno... Didnt do anything, and you USED to be able to take the ram out and still boot into bios etc...
Did you change any settings in your BIOS?
I havent even gotten video, nada... Black screen.
What is the wattage of the PSU you are using now?
Where do i find the wattage? The watts on the case is uh... 350 or 400 one of the two... The case says USB Deluxe P4 Case... And the watts on the Power supply is 115 if thats what you were wondering... Hope that answer the question

Memory Problems - Advice on quality memory for 865PE Neo2

I have 2 x 512 MB DDR400 in Dual Channel configuration in my 865PE Neo2 mobo. It's a noname brand (the only mention on it are the letters "VM"). A friend recently warned me about the problems that my arise with cheap memory, so I ran memtest-86 and Windows Memory Diagnostic (http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp). WMD gave no errors, but memtest86 gave 2 errors. I then tested the sticks individually and standard tests gave no errors. I then ran the extended tests and it gave errors on the extra tests. However the errors were not always the same. Furthermore, sometimes a pass gave 2 errors, sometimes it gave 3. Since the memory is still under warranty I have two options:
- Exchange for another set of noname memory sticks
- Pay the extra cash for quality memory
I'm inclined to take the second option, so my question is:
- What brand and model of memory do you advise? I don't overclock and I probably never will. Reliability and stability are all that matters to me. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for all the input. After running memtest for almost 24 hours with various tests, here's my findings:
I didn't change a thing in my BIOS. Exactly the same settings that gave errors (everything in default mode and dinamic overclocking off). I started with memtest's default set-up:
RSVD MEM: 112K
MEMMAP: e820-std
TEST: standard
I ran the test for a total of 14 passes. No errors were found.
I then, ran the extended test set-up for 10 passes. One 2 bit error was reported on the 5th pass and on the 5th pass only, in test #10.
In the light of this, I decided to run test #10 isolatedly, to see if the error showed up again. In a total of 10 passes no errors were found.
I re-run the tests once again, this time with the "ALL" test options chosen. 8 passes no errors.
I then decided to change the "memory sizing" feature to "ALL BIOS" to test those remaining 112K that were no tested in the default set-up. The program jammed at test #3 after having reported 122 000 errors! memtest's manual says this is not a stable test configuration on some mobos. I guess that is an understatement!
So, I decided to change "memory sizing" to "probe" mode which is supposed to be more thourough that the others and more stable than "all bios". After 11 passes, no errors were reported.
What can I conclude from all this testing? Probably, that 1 or 2 sporadic errors have little or no meaning. Also, that memtest should be run more than once in order to have enough data for a reliable conclusion.
As things stand, I believe I'll just make one more test: play some fast n' furious 3D game for a few hours If everything runs stable there is no reason to change memory. Anyhow, the seller wouldn't change it without finding some errors on it and chances are he wouldn't.
I would like to hear the opinions and thoughts of others on this experience. Thanks.

865PE Neo2-V memory issue

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