865PE Neo2-V Memory problems

Hello
I have a 865PE Neo2-V motherboard that only has 3 DIMM slots. I recently purchased 3 Kingston Value PC-3200 400MHz DDR 1G sticks and installed them in all 3 slots. When I booted the computer, the BIOS (and windows) only reported 2G, not 3G.
Is there a setting or something that I need to change in order to have it report 3G? The manual and on-line resources have told me that it will take up to 4G (hard to do with only 3 slots).
I've moved two sticks around to each of the various slots, (ie: Slot 1 and 3, slot 1 and 2, etc...) and it will show 2G, but when the 3rd stick is installed, the BIOS never sees it.
Thanks
Babs

Ok, here is the memory listing for the CPU-z file:
Memory SPD
DIMM #            1
SMBus address      0x50
   Memory type      DDR
   Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
   Size         1024 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC3200 (200 MHz)
   Part number      K
   Serial number      8528278A
   Manufacturing date   Week 38/Year 10
   Number of banks      2
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Registered      no
   Buffered      no
   Nominal Voltage      2.50 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
   JEDEC #2      3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz
DIMM #            2
SMBus address      0x51
   Memory type      DDR
   Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
   Size         1024 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC3200 (200 MHz)
   Part number      K
   Serial number      8528408A
   Manufacturing date   Week 38/Year 10
   Number of banks      2
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Registered      no
   Buffered      no
   Nominal Voltage      2.50 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
   JEDEC #2      3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz
DIMM #            3
   SMBus address      0x52
   Memory type      DDR
   Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
   Size         1024 MBytes
   Max bandwidth      PC3200 (200 MHz)
   Part number      K
   Serial number      0125364E
   Manufacturing date   Week 37/Year 10
   Number of banks      2
   Data width      64 bits
   Correction      None
   Registered      no
   Buffered      no
   Nominal Voltage      2.50 Volts
   EPP         no
   XMP         no
JEDEC timings table      CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
   JEDEC #1      2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
   JEDEC #2      3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz
and the speed registers...
DIMM #            1
SPD registers
      00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
   00   80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01
   10   0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80
   20   60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00
   30   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9
   40   7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00
   50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 26 85
   60   28 27 8A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   70   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   80   00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF
   90   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   A0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   F0   39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C
DIMM #            2
SPD registers
      00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
   00   80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01
   10   0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80
   20   60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00
   30   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9
   40   7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00
   50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 26 85
   60   28 40 8A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   70   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   80   00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF
   90   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   A0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   F0   39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C
DIMM #            3
SPD registers
      00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
   00   80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01
   10   0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80
   20   60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00
   30   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9
   40   7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00
   50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 25 01
   60   25 36 4E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   70   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   80   00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF
   90   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   A0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
   F0   39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C

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865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

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Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

[865PE NEO2 PFISR] Won't boot with added memory

Recently I upgraded a few items on my PC which has been running fine for 18 months or so. I changed out the video card and bought double the memory of the same brand and type it had in it. I went from 1gig (2 sticks) and added two more sticks. But now it won't boot. The power is on but no output whatsoever.
I RMA'd the memory thinking that might be the problem but it's the same with the new set. I tried all sorts of memory/slot combos. Basically, the new memory works fine if you swap it out in bank A with the old stuff. That's how it's running right now, so I know all of the sticks are good. I can take a third and put it in either slot bank B and it'll boot, but obviously not run properly. But any combination of these four sticks and the system won't boot!
Please help!
I'm running this system:
Win XP (SP1 I believe)
865PE NEO2 PFISR
P4/3.0CGHz, 800M 478P/512K HT
DDR Corsair 512MB X4 (400)
Dual 80gb samsung HDs running SATA
Sapphire X800GTO 256M video card
Antec Sonata case
TruePower 380Watt ATX12V

What brand, model, and speed are the RAM sticks. Did you check your Test Report booklet which came with the mobo. If you can't find it, you can go to the MSI website and look for your MOBO and get the test report that way. Some brands/models will that have been tested are shown in the report to be okay in all 4 slots, some only test okay in 2 or 3. Check this report and if it is one of the brands/model/speed tested you will see how it fared. It may well be you the MOBO doesn't like your RAM in 3 or 4 slots.
Maybe I missed it, but did you try each slot with only one stick at a time? You may also have a bad RAM slot.

865PE Neo2(6728) D-Bracket hangs at Memory Detection Test

This is terribly annoying... I just bought the mother board... Its a 865PE Neo2(6728)800mhzFSB the processor is P4 2.4ghz 800mhz, 512k l2-Cache. I dont know who made it like i know nothing about northwood or whatever, it says Intel on the box... I have 512MB of "Legacy Electronics" PC3200 64x64 DDR... I also just bought a NVdia G4 Ti-4200 64mb DDR 4x AGP made by Pixelview. I have a 160GB WD 8mb Cache 7200 HD... Ok the problem is when i go to boot up the computer, the VIDEO doesnt come on, and when i installed the "D-Bracket" the lights hang at 3 light, top right green all other red... Says in the manual that problem is memory detection test, testing onboard memory size, will hang if damaged or not installed properly. Ok. I have no idea how that wo;uld happen so, just to check i took out RAM, no dice, i changed video cards to MX440 G4, no dice, i tried disconnection the PCI slot which has the 160GB hard drive connected(why it needs this i dont know, according to WD WinXP needs...) none of this changes anything.. How do i check the onboard memory or could it be anything else? Ok thats all i have thanks for the help!!

Did you tried to boot up the system without the D-Bracket?
Yes it still does nothing, no video... Thats why i put in the D-Bracket. It doesnt sound like its going through the POST either.. I dont know if computers do that anymore thou;gh haha..
If you did, did you change to another piece of RAM to test?
I have no more DDR to put in, only SDRam and im sure that wont work.. I tried moving to different slots, 1 3 and 4 thinking maybe it was backwords i dunno... Didnt do anything, and you USED to be able to take the ram out and still boot into bios etc...
Did you change any settings in your BIOS?
I havent even gotten video, nada... Black screen.
What is the wattage of the PSU you are using now?
Where do i find the wattage? The watts on the case is uh... 350 or 400 one of the two... The case says USB Deluxe P4 Case... And the watts on the Power supply is 115 if thats what you were wondering... Hope that answer the question

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