865PE Neo2-V problem/bad BIOS ver. 6.2

A new BIOS for the 865PE Neo2-V has been posted at http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=612&kind=1. This BIOS did not work for me and I had to revert to version 6.1. If you plan a BIOS update, make sure you keep your previous version handy!
Symptoms: after the flash, the system would not post. I had an 8-beep error code (video problems on AMI BIOS). Removing either or both video cards did not help, neither did the usual (re-set BIOS by jumper, remove battery, remove RAM, disconnect HDs, etc.) Using the recovery flash method (place BIOS file as AMIBOOT.ROM on a floppy) with version 6.2 resulted in the same issues. Recovery flash to version 6.1 and all worked fine again.
System specs (if more details are needed I can provide them, I'm not at the system in question right now).
865PE Neo2-V (MS-6788)
2x 512MB RAM (Corsair? I would need to dig for specifrics)
NVIDIA GeForce 6800GT in AGP slot
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 in PCI
(plus a bunch of HDs and USB devices, but this problem occured even with all this removed).

Quote from: crazy on 28-February-06, 08:36:40
I just want to ask one question: you said that after you flashed the bios to the 6.2 version, then it could not even boot. Thus could you tell me how could you flash the bios to 6.1 version?
There is a way to flash the BIOS even when the system won't boot. For AMI BIOS (as on this board):
1- Format a floppy, and copy the BIOS file to it.
2- Rename the BIOS file to AMIBOOT.ROM
3- Put floppy in the drive.
4- Power up system while holding CTRL-HOME
5- Wait until you hear floppy drive access, then you can release CTRL-HOME
6- When you hear 4 beeps, the BIOS had been flashed from the file on the floppy.
7- Power off, reset BIOS by jumper (just to be safe) and then power up again.

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865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

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Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

865PE Neo2 Memory problems

Hi All,
I just put together a new pc with the following configuration:
P4 2.4GHz FSB 800 w/ stock HSF
MSI 865PE Neo2-LS
2 x 256MB Hynix DDR400
ATI Radeon 9000Pro
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM
Enermax 350W Dual Fan PSU
Windows XP Pro
The problem: When using the two sticks of memory (in either dual channel or single channel) the pc crashes everytime starting Windows.
If I use only one stick it boots up fine. Hynix is on MSI approved vendor list so I can't see what the problem might be!!
I tried with different memory type (DDR333) in one channel and works fine.
So, each time I use more than one slot the system crashes.
Any ideas why? Any help would be great.
Thanks in advance.

The only time when my windows crashes is when i use the "Turbo" setting in the bios..The only setting i can use is "Slow". But that's because i don't use good memory, the memory you use is high rated.
Do you have the latest bios, 1.30? And did you try some other memory Dram timings? Try to contact Hynix, did you try this site
http://www.hynix.com/datasheet/eng/dram/dram_sub.jsp?RK=03&MS=256&ME=511&RAM_NAME=DDR
maybe it will help you any further. )

865PE Neo2-V problems

I'm hoping this is the right area to ask for help... Ever since I got this MB it's been nothing but trouble. I bought it, took it home, hooked it up, no power. So I went back to the computer shop I got it from and asked them what's wrong with it. After taking my system in for them to make sure it was setup right, they informed me that I had to send it back for RMA work. so now, about 2-3 months later I finally got a new board back, and have random reboots. I've tried everything I could think of to figure out why it's randomly rebooting and am stumped. One surefire way to make it reboot is opening the front of my case, that does it everytime, so I tried a different MB to see if the same problem happen. It doesn't... Was there a re-call or something on these MB's? I hate to do another RMA and be without a computer for a few more months, since I work out of my home, and my computer is a main part of my work... I can't afford to send this MB in again. I've got the latest BIOS update, my RAM is set to 2.5,3,3,8 (per manufacturer). I have a 2 gig P4, that works fine in my other board. Even bought a new SATA HD for a fresh install of windows XP and still, the random rebotos happen. I'm not trying to OC or anything along those lines, since the chip I have shows almost no increases from OC's, so it's not from OC'ing it.. I'm running a 480 watt power supply, and that should be more then enough juice for the board... Sorry to rant and rave, but been working on this for about 3 weeks and about to pull out all my hair, since everytime I think it's going to be ok and I start to actually accomplish some work, it reboots, before I have a chance to save anything...
I guess I'm asking if anyone else has had these problems with this MB, or do I just have that kind of luck? I've been looking over the boards here for the last week or so and tried pretty much everything I've found, under a search for random reboots, to no avail. Here's a list of what I can think of off the top of my head that I've tried... <deep calming breath> Changed the BIOS through every version since the initial BIOS the driver disk has on it, re-seated the RAM in different places in the DIMM's, Memtest388 or whatever it is with 0 errors on a 10 hour test (the longest it's run without a reboot since day 1), pulled the graphics card and re-seated it, put more fans in, taken them out, took the power supply in to have it tested (it's fine), replaced the RAM with new shiny RAM that's tested fine, tried a different case, reset the CMOS, tried a different chip, tried numerous power supplies, checked the voltage at the surge protector, replaced all old components (CD drives, floppy drives ect...) traced each individual wire checking for breaks insulation problems, software tests out the wazoo all saying it's fine, new heat sinks, new thermal gel, put the computer on top of a cold vent (thinking of might be to hot) and so on... I guess I should list my setup since every component in the case has tested out fine at the shop and I can't afford to replace anything else...
865PE Neo2-V MB with a Intel 2.0 gig P4
512 x2 corsair VS512MB400 RAM sticks
Asus N6600 graphics card (Nvidia)
480 watt power supply
Sound Blaster live! 5.1 gamer
BIOS version 6.2
At first I thought it might be overheating, but the processor and RAM stay around 37º and 39º give or take 2º. I've also checked for virus's/spyware/adware to many times to remember with none found. Any help would be greatly apprieciated before I get so fed up that move to a cave and rely on an abacus for record keeping...

I have almsot the same set-up as you have.
I didnt have these problems though.
One thing that comes to mind is a grounding error.
Have you checked the space between the motherboard and the side of the case its mounted to?
I read that you tried a diffrent case, but it could be some issue with one of the grounding points where you put the screws in perhaps.
I know that the Spread Spectrum setting in BIOS can cause some disturbances, but it shouldnt really be enough to make it reboot though.
But check that one anyway, ON and OFF.
A bit info on Spread Spctrum:
"Spread Spectrum
When the motherboard’s clock generator pulses, the extreme values (spikes) of the
pulses creates EMI (Electromagnetic Interference). The Spread Spectrum function
reduces the EMI generated by modulating the pulses so that the spikes of the pulses
are reduced to flatter curves. If you do not have any EMI problem, leave the setting at
[Disabled] for optimal system stability and performance. But if you are plagued by EMI,
activate the Spread Spectrum for EMI reduction. Remember to disable Spread
Spectrum if you are overclocking because even a slight jitter can introduce a temporary
boost in clock speed which may just cause your overclocked processor to lock
up. Options: [Disabled], [Enabled]."
I assume you tried to run the Load BIOS Setup Defaults.
Also make sure that all the jumpers on the motherboard are set right, there might be some of the set wrong by accident, check with your manual to be sure.
You can try this to, take out your motherboard and place it at a non-conductive material.like wood or glass and attach all the components u need to do a boot-up, and only those, and see whats happening.
If it runs ok like this, then it might be some sort of short-circuit somwhere.
I think i read about an ASUS board that had some components near the CPU that somehow got in touch with, either the heatblock, orsome connection point of the fan-mounting and it caused some serious problem for people.
I took quite some troubleshooting to find that out for them.
All i can think off right now, at the top of my head, but try this, if you havent done it already.

865PE Neo2-PFISR problems after power outage

I need some help with a problem. A recent power outage while my supposedly "surge protected" 865PE Neo2 based machine was running, apparently messed something up. After our power came back on, I powered it back up and discovered that I now have 4 ongoing problems. Problem 1) it now hangs twice during the boot process, once at "auto detect 3rd master - press escape to abort", which if I then press ESC, it then moves to "auto detect 3rd slave - press escape to abort" and hangs there until I press ESC, at which time it then finishes booting like normal. (by the way, I don't even have any 3rd master or 3rd slave installed) Problem 2) I can no longer enter the Bios setup, even though I press the DEL key at the appropriate time. Problem 3) The case light for hard drive activity stays on constantly, even though the drive seems to be working normally without any other problems. Problem 4) A few issues here. My sata dvd/cd combo drive is no longer recognized as being installed; the activity light on the drive is constantly on even though the drive is not running; the drive bay will no longer open.
I'm guessing that something has possibly been damaged on the motherboard or maybe the bios was affected somehow, or maybe the power supply was somehow damaged. Either way, I'm not sure what to do now. With the exception of the problems I listed, my system otherwise works normally as it always has, with the only real downside being that I don't currently have a dvd/cd drive. I haven't tried any troubleshooting myself because I'm not sure where to look or what to look for. The specs for my system are listed in my signature, with the only change being that I'm still running the original Antec 350w power supply that came with the case. I could sure use some expert advice and help with this.

Problem Update.
Well, I finally got my machine up and running "almost" as good as it was before my power surge problems. Thank you to everyone that responded with advice. I ended up replacing the Antec 330w TruePower psu with the new Enermax Noisetaker 420w (EG425P-VE SFMA V2.0) that I had, and I had to replace the MSI sata combo drive (went with a Pioneer 710 DVD-RW, which is an excellent unit) and now things are back to normal. Plus, I bought an APC 650VA/390watt battery backup with soft shutdown to help prevent any power outage problems again.
When I said "almost" as good as new, that is because this morning when I booted up, all I got was a black screen (no post) for a couple of minutes, and then a message appeared that approximately said "the dram timings are too tight, reload timings", or something like that. Well, since the timings have never been changed, I'm not sure what is going on, but after turning it off and then re-powering it up again, it booted (though slowly at first) and I've just been letting it run all day. Ha, just when I was ready to venture into OCing this rig. Think I will anyway. If the problem continues, I'll be back seeking helpful advice again.

865pe Neo2-V problem. need some help, please

i clocked my CPU [email protected](box culer-40C idle) and i believe that i can raise FSB more but i have problem.my Kingmax(512ddr400) goes to 505 MHz, and i can't stop her. i can't put FSB/DRAM 1:1. it is allways 4:5. My old Transcend too. So it isn't memory. In BIOS i have options:
ddr - 266/333/AUTO. i have tried 333 and AUTO and DDR is 4:5. Also, i don't know where i can turn off "performance mode".
DDR modul is in slot1. I did not tryed to put him in slot2 or 3. Default timings are 2.5/3/3/7. i chosed 2.5/4/4/8.
also, when i chose "by speed", BIOS do nothing, and latencies is like before i chose "by speed" so i need to chose 2.5/4/4/8 by myself.
BIOS version is 6.1(latest)
this is my stable selection:
CPU - 3.33 GHz(18x185) - 38 C temperature now/ motherboard 29 C
DDR - 462 MHz
Thanks

my memory now runs @ 1:1 after i chose option DDR 266 and my cpu goes @3.78!!!!!!!!. excelent.

K9A2 Platinum (MS-7376) S3 not waking from suspend on BIOS ver 1.b

Hello, I’m new to posting on this forum, so if I commit a faux pas, yell at me and I’ll go shoot myself.
The Problem: System will NOT awaken from S3 standby. System DOES awaken from S1 standby.
The History: Problem began after updating BIOS from Ver. 1.5 (7376v15) to Ver. 1.b (7376v1b) to provide CPU support for “AMD Phenom II X6 1090T”. (Previous CPU was AMD Phenom X4 9850) Prior to BIOS to Ver. 1.b update, S3 standby worked just fine.
System appears to awaken (HDD spin up, etc) but the display doesn't rise and shine. My guess is the adapter doesn't get powered on.
My Thoughts: This problem appears similar to the S3 problem in BIOS ver. 1.4 which was resolved in BIOS ver. 1.5.
No other problems have been noticed as a result of the BIOS update or the CPU upgrade.
I suspect BIOS incompatibility with NVIDA Vid adapter in as much as K9A2 has had similar problem before. And apparently the K9N2 currently has a similar problem which has been acknowledged by MSI.
All thoughts appreciated . . . .
BTW – Only other concern I have with the 1090T is how to wipe the grin off my face.
Thanks for listening.

Bas,
Well Sir, as I indicated in my initial post: "System appears to awaken (HDD spin up, etc) but the display doesn't rise and shine. My guess is the adapter doesn't get powered on."
To elaborate: From all appearances, the PC goes into S3 suspend state just the way it has for a couple of years now. That is to say, the HDDs spin down, the fans turn off, the lan light stops blinking, the router for this PC turns yellow from green meaning it is no longer active, the monitor blanks to black and then powers down.
When I try to resume from the apparent S3 suspend state by pressing the ctrl-space keys; the system, case, and cpu fans start spinning, the HDDs spin up, the lan light starts blinking, the router light for this PC turns from yellow to green, and the monitor powers up -
BUT IT REMAINS BLANK, BLACK, DEAD, AS IN NOTHING DISPLAYED ON IT
And that, Sir, is the problem, at least from my perspective.
Merry Christmas, Alfie

(865PE Neo2) - Memory Controller Problems ???

Hi, I've been having problems with my RAM. I've run MEMTEST and found that my RAM continually failed test #5 (64 Block move). However, I pulled the RAM and tested in a friend's computer..... and it passed without any problems..... I went back to my computer and continually changed the BIOS setting until I finally got something to work....
What I did, was change the DRAM Freq from 400 down to 333. And it seems to be stable..... (The RAM was meant to run at 400)
The people at Corsair offered to replace the RAM, however, because both sticks produce them same problem, and because it works at 333 but not 400, and because it fails test #5 and not any other test, then they think the problem lies somewhere other then the RAM. And at the stage, i tend to agree.....
Now someone suggested it might be the Memory Controller..... I have no idea what that means..... but it sounds plausable.... Eitherway, I believe it might have something to do with the Motherboard..... And I was hoping someone here might have an idea on how I can either test it, or fix it.....
Thanks a bunch.....
My SYSTEM Specs are.....
MoBo : MSI 865PE Neo2-P (MS 6728 ver.2)
CPU : Prescott 3.2
RAM : 2x 512 Corsair XMS 3200 (DDR400)
Video : MSI FX 5200
PSU : Seasonic S12 430W
BIOS INFO - AMI v3.A
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD - Disabled
CAS - 2.5
RAS - 3
RAS to CAS delay - 3
Precharge delay - 7
Burst - 8
AGP Aperture Size - 128MB
Freq/Volt Control ->
Preformance Mode - Normal
D.O.T. Range - Disabled
CPU Ratio - Locked
DRAM Freq (Mhz) - 333 Mhz
Spread Spectrum - Enabled
Adjust CPU Bus Clock - 200
DDR Clock - 333
Adjust AGP/PCI Clock - 66.66/33.33
CPU Vcore Adjust - No
CPU Voltage - 1.3875
DDR Power Volt - 2.70
AGP Power Volt - 1.50
Thanks a lot..... :-)

Hi,
I've tried the RAM sticks individually, as well as 1,3 and 2,4..... And it doesn't make a difference.
I've aslo Disabled Spread Spectrum
And I've also tried all these setting, plus more.... @400Mhz
2-3-3-6
2-3-3-7
2-3-3-8
2.5-3-3-6
2.5-3-3-7
2.5-3-3-8
3-3-3-6
3-3-3-7
3-3-3-8
all without success..... And what i mean, is that I still get error#5 in memtest. And ALWAYS the error occures in the 92%-96% portion of the test.....
HOWEVER, When I drop the DRAM Freq to 333.... No problem..... All is fine..... Even at 2-3-3-6
Unfortunately, I doubt I will be able to test any other DDR400 memory in my system, but it would be interesting to know the results.....
I also find marginal confort knowing this problem is a bit 'common', however, i would find MORE comfort solving the problem :-)
Thanks :-)

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R POST problem

I'm having a problem with my newly built system and hoped that someone here might be able to help.
I am using the 865PE Neo2 -FIS2R motherboard with a 3.0Ghz P4 800Mhz FSB and a single 512MB Value Select Corsair RAM (DDR 3200, 200/400Mhz). The installed Video Card is a Leadtek Geforce3 Ti. There are no other expansion cards installed. There is no HDD.
When I power on my PC, I hear 2 short beeps, a pause, and then 8 short beeps. I'm also not getting any video. I looked up the beep codes on the AMI Bios web page. 2 beeps for video card issues and 8 beeps for memory issues.
I think the d-bracket is a great touch, so I check out its LED indicators. It shows the pattern denoting a memory issue. The only other RAM module I have laying around is a single generic PC 2100 266Mhz module. So, I pop it in. When I power on the system I get the same beep codes and LED configuration on the d-bracket.
Are the MSI Neo2 boards extremley picky about RAM? Should I be using two modules as per the RAM population table in the manual? Is there a recommended brand/model of RAM? Is there anything else I should be looking at as the cause?
I plan on picking up some different RAM modules over my lunch break today but before I did I wanted to check with those who know before I blow money on them.
Thanks for any help/advince.

KevinS,
Sad to say but there are some Corsair RAMs are known for instability problems with MSI mobos, especially the Low Latency RAM with the NEOs and NEO2s. That's why MSI has to test the RAMs to make sure that there is a list of confirmed and compatible RAMs for the mobo.
Pheng,
This AVATAR is better than the last one, at least it's not the 3X rated type... but I'll put an NC-16 PG for it hehehe... . Another thing is that I did not say that I hate the previous AVATAR at all... lol... Just feel that it is unsuitable for a tech forum where people from all over the world in all age and genders will be visting and viewing the threads. I hope you understand the suitation here .

865PE Neo2-FIS2R and Geil memory problem

With 512MB (2x256) of Corsair XMS 3700, the system is perfectly stable (runs 24/7 crunching for UD, also have done Prime95 torture test).
With 1-GB (2x512) of Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum, the system is very unstable. It usually won't even boot fully into Windows without a BSOD (which vary) or if it does get into Windows it crashed soon thereafter.
If I put the Corsair memory back in (like I have them right now, to be able to use the system to post this message), the system is back to 100% stable, so it seems to be entirely a memory-related problem.
MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R (MS-6728)
Intel P4 2.4C 800FSB (HT enabled) @ 3.19-GHz
AVC Sunflower 2 HSF
420-W PS
Windows XP Pro SP1a
BIOS settings:
Dynamic OC Disabled
Performance mode Slow
DRAM Freq 266
CPU Bus 266
DDR Clock 354
AGP/PCI 67/34
CPU vCore 1.6000
DDR volts 2.70
AGP volts 1.50
SPD Disabled
3-4-4-8, 4 burst
Have run MemTest standard test on the Geil modules individually and as a pair, and have tried different slots. Testing thus far shows no errors when each module is installed separately, but when used in a pair there are sometimes errors shown.
Have tried the modules in slots 1,3 and slots 2,4 with no difference.
Have tried setting DDR voltage from 2.70 up to 2.85v for the Geil (approved up to 2.9v) with no apparent change in stability.
Have tried changing Spread Spectrum setting between enabled and disabled. Disabled seems to be better, but problem remains.
Have tried using SPD disabled with settings listed above, and SPD enabled (which sets timings at 2.5-4-4-8,8).
Edit: I'd asked for advice, but then realized that the very limited timeframe in which I could return the Geil would expire if I waited beyond business hours today. So I've RMA'd the Geil and have ordered a 1-GB Corsair TwinX XMS 3700 pack instead.

I've had similar problems to you but with Corsair TwinX LL's and if you read back a month in this forum you will see others have also with various memories on the 865 FISR.
The fix I found was Kingston memory but others have had problems with Kingston. There was a thread running a week or two ago attempting to document successful memory mobo combinations.
Bottom line, stick with what works on your mobo until MSI fix the incompatability/instability issues.

865PE NEO2 FIS2R memory problem

I have this 865PE NEO2 FIS2R with a 3ghz northwood (512K cache, 800 fsb).
initially I bought a 1GB Geil PC3500 DDR dual channel kit. installed those into slot 1 and 3, installed windows...during install I would get blue screens. recently I bought a new PC-3700 DDR dual channel kit (industry standard generic stuff). I bought those cause the place I got it from claimed it works on the i875 NEO FIS2R. I figured if it works on the 875P, it should work on the 865PE. with the new memory I get blue screens a tad more often.
I tried both geil sticks again this time as single channel in slots 1 and 2 (Ch. A). I still got blue screens. I did the same with the new PC-3700 RAM, blue screens with that too.
I took those sticks out, and tried 1 Geil PC-3500 stick in slot 1, no blue screens.
Whats the deal here? shouldn't dual channel memory work as dual channel in a dual channel board? WHy can't I use 2 sticks of the same RAM in this board!
is it just incompatiable with geil dual channel? If so what about the PC-3700 RAM I tried as dual. I am thinking about trying a set of OCZ dual channel RAM, but I feel I already got $400 worth of RAM I can't use, I don't really want to waste another $200 if this is just a crappy board.
I'm thinking of just getting the new Asus with the SiS 655TX chipset, supposed to be faster anyway. 2 sticks of RAM would most likely work in that board.
I really don't want to spend anymore money on this though...I spent enough.
the specs:
P4 3ghz northwood
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (with updated 2.3 bios)
Chieftech 650 watt Power supply 36A, 36A, & 32A
BFG geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB (also tried an old geforce 2 mx 32MB)
memory tried: 1GB geil PC-3500 dual channel kit & 1GB generic dual channel kit
3com Network interface card
WD 120GB SE hard drive
Plextor 8X DVD-RW drive
Lite on 16X DVDROM drive

This problem is not yet solved....
I tried increasing the ram voltage to 2.8v, it ran fine for about 3 days...then boom..restart
I am seeing other people are having the same problem with these 865/875 boards.
after raising the ram voltage didn't work I tried unplugging all of my extra hard drives 1 by 1 with the memory set to 2.7v.
I am at the point where I have only my boot drive connected with the two DVD drives.
But I am still thinking its my power supply...that power supply caculator page says I need a 519 watt PS?? I have a true550 which is only 530 watt max.
If I do need to add 20% to the power calculated, I would need a 622 watt PS???
I am running speedfan now....how low is the voltages ok to drop to?
the +12 dropped to 11.19, max is 11.80
the rest of the voltages are staying more or less constant .
Oh yea, on occasion the nb fan stops, I get a warning in corecenter saying 0 RPMs.
Also I can't set the fans to high speed, 6000RPM for the nb, and 5000RPM for the CPU.
If I set corecenter to user, and move the slide up to 8, the max is only 3375RPM for the CPU and 3750RPM for the NB fan.
Also every once in awhile the power LED on my case will go out while the system is running.
But thats been doing that for awhile now!
I'm thinking I will connect up my other hard drives again and run this speed fan program again.
update:
I reconnected my drives, ran speed fan, noticed it stops responding after 10 min...I get an error saying smbus cannot be scanned...or something like that.
Also I've got errors when downloading saying I have no ports available. it sounds like the bus is shutting down??
This is not the only MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R I have ran into problems with
it looks like I will be getting a new board next week....either an Asus or Abit.

Memory Problems - Advice on quality memory for 865PE Neo2

I have 2 x 512 MB DDR400 in Dual Channel configuration in my 865PE Neo2 mobo. It's a noname brand (the only mention on it are the letters "VM"). A friend recently warned me about the problems that my arise with cheap memory, so I ran memtest-86 and Windows Memory Diagnostic (http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp). WMD gave no errors, but memtest86 gave 2 errors. I then tested the sticks individually and standard tests gave no errors. I then ran the extended tests and it gave errors on the extra tests. However the errors were not always the same. Furthermore, sometimes a pass gave 2 errors, sometimes it gave 3. Since the memory is still under warranty I have two options:
- Exchange for another set of noname memory sticks
- Pay the extra cash for quality memory
I'm inclined to take the second option, so my question is:
- What brand and model of memory do you advise? I don't overclock and I probably never will. Reliability and stability are all that matters to me. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for all the input. After running memtest for almost 24 hours with various tests, here's my findings:
I didn't change a thing in my BIOS. Exactly the same settings that gave errors (everything in default mode and dinamic overclocking off). I started with memtest's default set-up:
RSVD MEM: 112K
MEMMAP: e820-std
TEST: standard
I ran the test for a total of 14 passes. No errors were found.
I then, ran the extended test set-up for 10 passes. One 2 bit error was reported on the 5th pass and on the 5th pass only, in test #10.
In the light of this, I decided to run test #10 isolatedly, to see if the error showed up again. In a total of 10 passes no errors were found.
I re-run the tests once again, this time with the "ALL" test options chosen. 8 passes no errors.
I then decided to change the "memory sizing" feature to "ALL BIOS" to test those remaining 112K that were no tested in the default set-up. The program jammed at test #3 after having reported 122 000 errors! memtest's manual says this is not a stable test configuration on some mobos. I guess that is an understatement!
So, I decided to change "memory sizing" to "probe" mode which is supposed to be more thourough that the others and more stable than "all bios". After 11 passes, no errors were reported.
What can I conclude from all this testing? Probably, that 1 or 2 sporadic errors have little or no meaning. Also, that memtest should be run more than once in order to have enough data for a reliable conclusion.
As things stand, I believe I'll just make one more test: play some fast n' furious 3D game for a few hours If everything runs stable there is no reason to change memory. Anyhow, the seller wouldn't change it without finding some errors on it and chances are he wouldn't.
I would like to hear the opinions and thoughts of others on this experience. Thanks.

Bios 1.90 on 865PE NEO2

I am currently running bios 1.50 on my 865PE NEO2 LS with a 2.6c and it runs fine, I have it fully tweaked and two months ago when I was setting it up, it turned in the highest 3dmark 2003 score for an fx5600, all that with stock cooling and no cheap resolution hacks. I have run 3dmark over 170 times now to get the system fine tuned and am wondering if any of the bios settings have changed their effects, ie. does PAT still tighten memory? given that it is only valuram, I am forced to run the 333 multiplier(FSB tops out around 118 on full speed), but the cpu runs great at 250FSB and stock cooling. I have read most posts in this forum, but cant find much about pros/cons of 1.9, I have no problems with upgrading the bios, but have heard some of the older ones (1.7?) caused more problems than it was worth.
please post improvements or lost functionality only please.
MSI 865PE NEO2 LS
P4 2.6C at ~3.3Ghz, 250 FSB
512mb Kingston Valuram, ~400+Mhz (333Mhz multiplier)
MSI Geforce FX5600 128 mb at 384Mhz GPU 654Mhz RAM
Western Digital WD1600JB and WD800JB
Promise Ultra100 TX-2 Controller
Creative SoundBlaster Live 5.1

This is the second time the forum has been down after I have made posts (which is rare on this forum). ahh well. I'll probably give it a shot anyway. While I have to agree with the moto "it It aint broke...", being an engineer, I still live by something to the extent of "If it's still running, I havent pushed it hard enough"
If any one has noticed if they unlinked the turbo functions from the memory timings, I'd like to hear as it is somewhat ambiguous to determine.

Problem with NIC and Firewire on MSI 865PE NEO2-PFISR

Hi, I have lots of trouble getting the network adapter on the MSI 865PE NEO2-PFISR to work.
The NIC's LED indicators doesnt even light up when I plug in a network cable,
and in windows (win 2003 server) it doesnt find the adapter at all.
The NIC is displayed in the bios, and I have the option to disable it,
but it is enabled.
I have even reinstalled windows 2003 server to try to get the NIC to work.
I have upgraded the bios to v3.8 via live update, with no problems, although the
firewire-option on the same page in the bios is still gone, it doesnt detect the
firewire at all(!).
I have also tried several other NIC's (a 3COM 3C905B TX and a 3C905B TX XL
PCI adapter). The 3C905B TX worked fine for a while, and then it started saying in
windows that a network cable was unplugged, and began to try 10mbit, 100mbit
lots of retries, now it doesnt work at all.
I swapped tp-cables and changed the ports on the network switch (which there is
also other computers attached to which doesnt have any problems) and that didnt
made any difference.
It seems that the whole pci bus is long gone, and maybe the onboard NIC is
attached to this same pci bus?
Strange also about the firewire-controller which isnt detected anymore.
The USB devices work, and even a 3com usb wlan adapter works well.
I have tried to reset the bios several times without that making a difference.
Anybody have a clue to point out here?
Cheers!

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Originally posted by Raven
you could try and flash to an older bios
I tried most anything on flashing bios, both to a lower and a higher version.
I returned the motherboard to the reseller and got a new motherboard as a replacement. This doesnt have all the same problems. At first it didnt post at all, indicating to red lights on the diagnosis.
Then I was so pissed I hadnt touched the computer in a week, and just tried to use it a few days ago, and it seemed to work all ok. I used it for a few hours, and then it locked up.
When I powered it up again, the lights on the integrated adapter was out. At first it seemed to work to take the agp card a little out of its slot, as if it was unaligned or something. Used it for a few more hours.
Then I plugged in the sound cables (5.1 sound with 3 cables), and with the last cable, the network darkened out AGAIN!!
In the bios it still indicates that the network is enabled, firewire is enabled etc.
I twisted the network cable, and for a few microseconds I get a orange light, not the usual green light. Now this has stopped too.
I see other also have problems with these symptoms so I guess I've got another black monday card.
I will return this card too, and ask the reseller to get a card of another brand.

TEMPERATURE PROBLEM - 865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition!!!!!!

i using 865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition with Pentium 4 2.8E GHz
first time i using the temperature is 52degree, everytime i update the BIOS the temperature will sure rise up
2nd time was 59degree
then 64degree
and the latest is 85degree and the alarm just ring me, tell me warning!!
what should i do!!

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Originally posted by Archangel
yes i have the pls edition of that board and i got "3.8". same problem
Hi,
Saw you sig and you have a powerful system........more than powerful than mine.
I noticed the 300w PSU....... to be honest, I think you CPU is working too hard as there is not enough power being supplied.......
Del

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