870A-G54 vs. 870A-G54 FX
Hi,
I was wondering if an 870AG54 will support new bulldozers, and now I find that MSI is making such the same mainboard with the same bios, just with black cpu socket, calling it FX, that support new am3+ sockets, and asking 20-30EUR more for such thing..
Any chance to get AM3+ support for "usual" 870A-G54????
Quote from: Henry on 11-October-11, 07:27:15
http://eu.msi.com/news-media/news/1224.html
great news!!
checked stores again, FX version cost approx the same as non-FX version, so hopefully its not just some marketing move, and MSI will support older MoBos with AM3+ bios's - we are waiting for am3+ support to curent AM3 boards MSI!!
at last, bulldozer(FX) CPUs from first reviews is flop so no bother at all att..
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MSI 870a-G54 Hard drive problem.
About a week ago i reinstalled Windows because it started to slow down (virusses and what not) And as soon as i reinstalled everything (programs games etc etc) One of my harddrives used for games did not show up at the bios and at My computer.
So this entire week i've been trying to get it to work again and i've narrowed down the problem today to the BIOS and/or motherboard not giving the power to the HDD in order for it to start and be recognized in BIOS and Windows.
What ive done to come to this conclusion:
- Reinstalled Windows twice,
- Replaced CMOS Battery,
- Flashed the BIOS to every BIOS setting the MSI website had to offer. None worked for the HDD to get powered up again.
- Moved CMOS jumper,
- Changed SATA and powercables on harddrive,
- Tried the HDD on another test PC i had and reformatted it there as well,
- Only hooked up the not working HDD to the PC, (HDD did not spin up, and came to the conclusion at this point that motherboard or BIOS is the culprit)
- Unplugged the powercable to the not working HDD and plugged it back in when the PC was running and i could feel it spinning up, after this i restarted the PC so that the HDD would still get power and it was recognized by the BIOS and Windows and i could use it. As soon as i shut down the PC entirely and restarted it the HDD would not spin up. And i had to unplug power to the HDD and plug it in again and restart PC for it to work properly.
- Checked for bad sectors nothing found,
Everything else is working perfectly. Except that one HDD not getting the power when booting up the PC.
The HDD in question is the "Samsung HD502HJ 500gig" used for Steam games.
PC Specs:
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black edition. Put on a new CPU cooler last summer (Cooler master Hyper 212 Plus)
Mobo: MSI 870a-G54
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA650 (650 Watts)
Graphics card: Powercolor PCS+ HD5870 Put on a custom cooler last summer (Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme 5870)
RAM: Kingston ValueRam 1333Mhz DDR3 (8gigs 4x 2gig) Bought 4 gigs extra last summer
HDD1: Seagate ST3160812 AS 160gig used for Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (Works perfectly)
HDD2: Samsung HD204UI 2TB used for Storage / Other games than i have on Steam. (works perfectly) Bought last summer with the cooling/system upgrade
HDD3: Samsung HD502HJ 500gig used for Steam games. (Does not work anymore after reinstal) Bought 2 years ago along with the rest of the PC
I am completely at a loss here as to what the problem is. I do not have the funds to buy a new piece of hardware at this time (i think the entire week of struggle would back that up for me lol...). And ive basically tried everything what i know and what i've found through Google and friends. Might have been better going straight to MSI forum and post my problem here but narrowing it down to this not only helps me but the person that is going to post below in this thread as well lol.
Thanks in advance and i hope to hear from anyone soon.Quote from: Bas on 09-March-12, 19:16:21
Try drive in different PC, as it looks like it died.
HDD's always spinup as soon as power is applied, ergo I think the drive died.
Ive tried it already in 2 different PC's and i have to apologize here for not mentioning that earlier in the topic.
The drive spins up perfectly in both of those PC's and ive checked for bad sectors on both of those PC's as well and it showed that the drive was 100% healthy on both PC's
The drive was working perfectly fine before the reinstallation of windows. Thats why i dont think the drive has died. Because it would be weird that the drive just suddenly gave up right when im reinstalling windows..
It also doesnt add up when i plug the powercable back into the drive while the PC is running and it spins up then and works perfectly until PC is shut down. Thats why i had it narrowed down to the BIOS and/or Motherboard being the culprit.
My best guess is that its software related because the PC does boot up so its not a hardware problem.
P.S.
A friend of mine said that it could be a powersaving issue. But ive looked into the BIOS and i could not find anything about it. -
MSI 870A-G54 Blue Screen & Corruption Issues in Windows 7 64-bit
I am having periodic blue screen and corruption issues in Winodws 7 64-bit with my MSI 870A-G54 system. I have a Phenom II X2 560 BE processor, 2 4GB DDR 1333 DIMMs (first bank - unganged), 2 2GB DDR3 1333 DIMMs (2nd bank - unganged), 2 Hitachi 1TB 32MB Cache HDD's in a RAID 0 array, two Galaxy PCIe2.0 GT9500's, 550w power supply, internal DVD drive, and 1 1TB Seagate external 3.0 USB drive. After I load all the supplementary drivers from the MSI site (ensuring I use the 64bit versions), my system becomes unstable. I even tried the new motherboard chipset drivers from AMD (10.12). I am running the latest firmware as well (17.7). The system in not overclocked in any manner and I experience the same results with fail-safe and optimized settings.
I have tried isolating the issue after loading each driver, but due to the random nature of the issue, I am not having success. I have also performed memory and CPU tests that report no errors. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help...What specifications are you referencing that indicate this processor only works with two sticks of RAM?
My exact specifications are listed below. Thanks again for your help...
Component Manufacturer Model Notes
Motherboard MSI 870A-G54
Processor AMD Phenom II X2 560 BE
Video Card Galaxy 9500 GT PCIe 2.0 - 512MB DDR3
Video Card Galaxy 9500 GT PCIe 2.0 - 512MB DDR3
Case Antec Three Hundred ATX
Power Supply OCZ OCZ550FTY Fata1ty 550w Modular
Hard Disk Drive Hitachi H3D10003272S SATAII 1TB 32MB Cache
Hard Disk Drive Hitachi H3D10003272S SATAII 1TB 32MB Cache
Memory PNY MD4096KD3-1333 1 2GB DDR3 1333MHz
Memory PNY MD4096KD3-1333 1 2GB DDR3 1333MHz
Memory OCZ OCZ3G1333LV8GK 1 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Memory OCZ OCZ3G1333LV8GK 1 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
DVD Burner Sony Optiarc AD-7261S SATA -
870A-G54 rebranded as 870S-G54?
I was poking around inside my computer and noticed that printed on the motherboard was USB 3.0 even though my 870S was not spec'd as having any of them. Then I looked at where my board was branded as 870S to find a sticker over it. Out of curiosity I peeled back the sticker and sure enough underneath was stamped 870A. Can anybody explain this to me please? I have sent a message to CS but have not received anything in return. Thanks!
870A- and 870S-G54 are the same boards apart from the USB3.0 chip on 870A. It's the same board layout, cooling and chipset. As 870S-G54 is a stripped-down 870A-G54 as far as USB3.0 goes it uses of course the same board. Without the USB3.0 it's a 870S. Can't see the problem as it is quite normal.
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870A-g54 front panel audio missing from bios
Boy is this motherboard full of glitches. Teaches me a lesson about buying the cheapest for crossfire.
I would really love to use my front panel audio. Only problem is my front panel audio isn't in the BIOS!
When i bought my 870A-G54 I had to do a BIOS flash to support my six core CPU. Could the BIOS flash have changed my BIOS menu and taken away the front panel audio setting?
Lol does the motherboard even have an option to turn front panel audio on and off?
I had the bios flashed in the store the moment i baught it so i dont know how the bios looked before the flash. The Guy failed to flash my board because he had the wrong bios update and it was too big. So i had to download the right one from msi myself. People like that shouldn't work in computer stores.
My front panel audio has one of those single plug and go audio cables so im shure i couldn't install it wrong, even had the manual next to me.
Am i to be stuck without front panel audio??Quote from: Stu on 20-October-11, 03:51:31
BIOS does not have any options for front panel audio, it is controlled by the Realtek Audio Manager control panel.
What's the exact problem you're having?
Well i plug in my headphones to front audio and the software should recognize it and light up the ports on screen. But they stay greyed out and i have no mic or audio.
On my old asus motherboard i had to make shure front panel audio is turned on sorry for the confusion.
any idea why it doesn't pick up my headphones?
Ive tried diffrent headphones lol they dont work either -
870A-G54 rev 3 Buldozer support
Hi , i'm confussed , i bought 3 month's ago this board , when i choosed this board i entered on msi webpage and i readed "870A-G54" there is nothing about revision , few min ago i entered this page second time and what i have read "870A-G54 (FX)" WT* is going with msi ,they saying that your board will support octa core < then i bought one and after months change model of mobo ?. While buldozer comeout msi will say "teoriticaly" your board support buldozer but the revision NO!. Can i request to change my mobo model to new revision without buying new board , i have 2years varranty and bought document ... (send my board to msi and wait for FX rev of my board) -.-....?
I am not sure what exactly it is you are talking about. I just entered "870A-G54" into the search box of the global MSI website and there is only one model:
http://msi.com/service/search/?kw=870A-G54&type=product
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i bought 3 month's ago this board , when i choosed this board i entered on msi webpage and i readed "870A-G54" there is nothing about revision
Again, not sure what you are talking about. The fact that no revision was mentioned, does not mean that they promised Bulldozer support. What does the one thing have to do with the other. When you checked the CPU Support list a few month ago, I am sure that no Bulldozer CPU was listed in it.
Whatever the case may be, please note that when you check the specifications of the board, you will see a big red note on the top telling you the following:
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The Specification may change without notice. The actual products sold are different from areas. Please check the detailed Specification with your local dealers.
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Can i request to change my mobo model to new revision
No. As far as I know there is no new revision. I cannot find anything on the MSI Product pages.
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i have 2years varranty and bought document ...
You have a contract with your reseller, not with MSI. As you live in Europe, the reseller is the one you need to contact regarding warranty & RMA claims. But your board is not defective, so what is the point?
In any case, I checked the BIOS changelogs for your mainboard. It contains fixes like this:
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- Modify some Mojibake in setup menu for AM3+ BOM.
- Add New MP BOM 200 for AM3+ CPU.
- Update Agesa module to support AM3+ CPU.
- Fix system hang on 50h issue when used AM3+ CPU and installed only one memory at DIMM1 or DIMM2.
So, basically, at this point, there is no reason to get angry.
Contact MSI Technical Support directly to find out about the current Bulldozer support status: http://support.msi.com/ -
Well, here I am, yet another person with his newly acquired 870A-G54 MB not posting. This is actually my second MB of this series. The first one I RMA'd after it shorted in my case due to a rogue standoff hidden beneath the board; a stupid mistake on my part, but one which I thought I had corrected with this board. I removed all of my standoffs and then put one back for each hole in the MB.
Now the current problem. I put everything together and turned on the board for the first time. The fans spun up, the HDD light came on, and the 4 CPU power phase LEDs turned on. However, neither my mouse nor my keyboard received power, and my monitor remained in standby mode.
All of the parts listed in my signature are newly purchased. They are the hardware that I am using with this MB. According to the MSI compatibility test results, the ADATA sticks, the 8500GT, and the Phenom II are all compatible. This specific Antec Earthwatts was not tested, but a higher wattage one was, and that was compatible as well.
I know my first step is to perform a bench test with only 1 stick of RAM, the VGA, and my keyboard. That test failed, so now I have some questions that you guys can hopefully answer for me.
First: What do the power phase LEDs actually mean? I am trying to figure out if it is good or bad that all four come on and stay on, but the manual doesn't give any description beyond the fact that each LED represents a power phase mode, 1-4. I haven't found anything online that explains this to me. What are power phase modes? What does it mean if all four lights are on?
Second: Could any of my other hardware have been damaged by the first MB shorting out? I know that the VGA and PSU work fine because when I RMA'd the first time, I put my old rig together, but used these new parts in place of my old VGA and PSU. I am wondering specifically if the RAM or CPU could have been scrambled. Just to note, there was no physical sign/damage when the first MB shorted; no smoke, spark, or smell, and there are no signs of physical damage (bent pins, scratches, or cracks) on either the CPU or RAM.
Third: Could this be related to my power supply? Despite the hardware itself being new, the model is old, but it has all of the proper power connectors for this board. Here is a list of the voltage rails and the amps
+3.3 V, 25A
+5 V, 25A
+12V1, 22A
+12V2, 22A
+12V3, 25A
-12V, .5A
Does this power supply not provide enough power to the CPU?
Fourth: Compatibility tests aside, is it possible that the MB doesn't like the Nvidia card? Like I said above, I know that the VGA card works, but MSI seems to favor ATI cards. I have a really old ATI Radeon card that I test with the board, if you think that would reveal anything.
Finally: What besides standoffs making contact with the board could cause a MB to short inside a case?
No Post - Shorting issues
Motherboard Grounding to case causing No Post
Test the motherboard outside of the case to verify that the motherboard is not shorting to the case and causing a problem
• With only the CPU and heat sink, memory, and video card (or onboard video) connected to the motherboard, place the motherboard on a non-conductive surface and retest the motherboard
• Check the case mounting standoffs to verify that they are lining up correctly with the mounting holes on the motherboard.
Also try with barabone setup [when testing with mainboard out of PC case], and 1 memory stick only in 1st dimm close to cpu socket.
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PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
The PSU too possible to have malfunction, Antec fails a lot. -
Dear all...
I bought MSI 870A-G54 and when I installed it audio card driver it was an error sign occurred
Both my rear and front audio jack can't supply sound until now
When I check in my device manager there is 1 device that is not recognize by the system
I already update it with my MSI CD driver but the device cannot find it's driver
The unrecognized device called "Media"
Please help me to solve with this problem
thank you>>Posting Guide<<
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*Solved* 870A-G54. The lights are on but no-one's home
Has been working fine and dandy for about 6 months. Unplugged a HD this afternoon, touched nothing else, and now won't restart/POST. Splash screen shows but hangs there and no beep
4 phase power leds are on
Fan is spinning
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Ticking noise coming from somewhere but can't tell where
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
MSI 870A-G54 AMD 870
4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic
1GB Asus HD 5670
500W Silverstone Strider, ST50F-ES
500 GB Western Digital Caviar WD5000AADS
Any help appreciated!
TIAVery strange. I had already disconnected/reconnected all cables but thought I'd humour you by doing it again, and totally removed the HD I had disconnected/reconnected and it worked!
Thanks for the speedy reply , (just got to wait for Windows startup repair now... ) -
870A-G54 Realtek LAN crash when using Torrents
The network card on my MSI 870A-G54 crashes when downloading or uploading using torrents. It takes around 20-30min until I lose network connection and I have to reset the network card to make it work again.
I have tried all the official MSI driver, Windows Update driver and a driver downloaded directly from realtek but the problem remains. I'm using Windows 7 x64 and I have the latest BIOS version (updated today).Quote from: veckans on 11-February-11, 01:50:27
It is not the clocks, I have ran this CPU for a year at these clocks unlocked. It's a solid clock.
I cannot reproduce the error with or without clocks at the moment, don't know why.
Maybe ,maybe you simply got flooded or something.Are you using a decent firewall to protect you ?!At least such firewall protects your hardware even if the connectivity still goes down.
P2P is a "dangerous" thingy in many aspects.Make sure you use up to date clients.
The CPU can go bad even if it worked one year too.That silicon had one core disabled due to an objective factor. -
MSI 870A-G54 problem with RAM frequency
Hello,
Im currently using MSI 870A-G54 motherboard with Phenom x2 560. I started upgrading my hardware (with baby steps) and started with RAMs.
Bought 2x4GB 1600 MHz Goodrams and after plugging it in I got some random freezes and shutdowns. I recently...Hello. I just installed it but the main screen of the program it's absolutly black, here you can see an screenshot
What should I do?
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Does 870a-G54 NON FX Motherboard now support Vishera CPU's after bios flash?
I have the non fx version of the 870a-g54, I have the latest bios flashed on my motherboard right now and in the description of the bios update it reads "- Update AGESA code for Vishera CPU"
So is this support for FX cpus now ?
Is the 870a-g54 FX board the same as the mainboard non fx with just support for FX out of the box?
I'm confused, I would really love to upgrade my CPU, I know my motherboard has weak power phasing so I won't be overclocking at all if I did upgrade.
THoughts?Quote from: XFM on 16-February-13, 04:59:38
OK, here's a list from MSI I found that support Vishera, if anyone can prove otherwise then go by this list. There is no sense going back and forth without definite proof, as far as I'm concerned the proof is this list.
List of models that support the new AMD FX “Vishera” CPU
Chipset Model BIOS
AMD 900
990FXA-GD80 E7640AMS.BD0
990FXA-GD65 E7640AMS.J90
990XA-GD55 E7640AMS.M50
970A-G46 E7693AMS.1A0
970A-G45 E7693AMS.1A0
AMD 800
890FXA-GD70 Ready
890FXA-GD65 Ready
880GMA-E41 (FX) Ready
880GMA-E35 (FX) Ready
870A-G54 (FX) Ready
870-C45 (FX) V2 Ready
AMD 700
760GA-P43 (FX) Ready
760GM-P43 (FX) Ready
760GM-P23 (FX) Ready
760GM-P21(FX) Ready
760GM-E51 (FX) Ready
http://emm.msi.com/display.php?List=75&N=2209
Right there -> 890FXA-GD65 ,white socket , has FX support.So white or black it simply has to be tested and stated to work.
It was stated to work with FX 5 months before the CPU release.And this is just one example
Anyway i would say FX CPU-s SHOULD be used with boards released last year ,just to be safe it doesn t blows up when the CPU reaches some Turbo State.
FX series needs proper VRM stages. -
870A-G54 - Possible overheating caused by too much ram? Display driver crashes
Greetings, I have a 870A-G54. I've had multiple issues with several video cards prompting me with a "display driver has stopped responding and has recovered" error. Each video card having it's own unique fix. I've come to the conclusion that it's another piece of hardware in my system that is the root of the problem; and not the video cards. I've noticed that the CPU during "the crash" hits about 60c; usually when playing video games. After a reboot, I can play games for a couple more hours before getting the error again. I'm running 16gb of ram on Windows 7 ultimate. Yesterday I decided to remove 8gb of ram to see if the CPU got "hot" again (only leaving the sticks in bay 3 and 4 in). I had a 4 hour session of gaming and it didn't crash. Note, I have the latest bios installed and a Power Supply that shouldn't have issues powering the whole thing; 850w gold rated PSU. I'm currently running a 6950 video card, and all of the settings are stock; no over clocking in any way. I have a hardware monitor installed that shows with my 16gb of ram that my cpu idles at 41-43c. During a intense gaming session going up to 60c. Yesterday after removing the other 8gb (two sticks of 4gb), it never went above 50c. My CPU is well ventilated. I've contemplated water cooling the CPU if that would resolve the issue. But I'd hate to fork over more money to an already expensive system if I don't have to. I've also wondered if it's just a bad ram stick, or bad ram bay on the motherboard. :\
Any suggestions here would be appreciated! Thanks!So, I conducted several tests over the last couple of days. Now, I understand that mismatching ram could (and probably is) potentially causing the overheat problem. But... I kind of started looking at fundamentals. I have to sets for DDR3. One pair is Patriot sector 5 ram, the other is a set of Dominator ram. Now, I've noticed that I've seem to always have this driver crash issue. But I had always thought it was the video card. Only until recently I started seeing/noticing that the cpu was getting very hot when the driver would crash. On Wednesday I removed the ram in slots 1 and 2 (the Dominator ram), and only ran with the ram in 3 and 4 (Patriot). It ran fine all night. I then ran some heat tests, with the same ram in bays 1 and 2. When the Patriot ram was in those two slots, it ran cooler. When the Dominator was in, it ran hotter. The Dominator's builtin heat-sinks pretty much rest right next the CPU's heatsink (and restrict air flow). It re-arranged the ram so the Dominators are in 3 and 4. And the Sector 5 are in 1 and 2. It worked all night yesterday, CPU didn't get any hotter that 48c while having multiple programs running. Looking at it now, the design of this MB is pretty bad, there should be a little more space between the CPU and the ram. In any case, I will follow up if it continues to crash due to heating issues. I know it's probably cheaper to get new ram, but I'm playing with the idea of just getting a better heat-sink for the CPU (WATER COOLED)!
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Ok so i mounted the board, connected everything started running from the cd etc.. the cd drive and winki operating screen worked just fine for a while.
I went out and purchased a new hard drive and windows 7 because i couldn't validate my old version of xp. so the time comes to install windows, i boot up the system, open the cd drive and then i have second thoughts about which disc i needed to use 32b or 64b, so i go look it up for a few minutes on a laptop in another room. Finally when i come back the disc drive has closed itself and wont open again, the screen said to insert disc and then restart to load from cd drive. i power off, turn it back on and my disc drive wont power on and i cant get any visuals.
I dont think it can be my drive or my psu because when i disconnect my cd drive from the MB it turns on just fine, but when i connect them it just shuts down.
Any help you can give would be MUCH appreciated!
IF its any help i have a corsair psu and a phenom processorMSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Western Digital 320g, 7200 rpm, 3.0 gps
ZOTAC Synergy Edition ZT-20303-10L GeForce 210 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card. NVIDIA
- Soon to be Windows 7 64b
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor -
After flashing latest bios for AM3+ system see only 2gb ram but I have installed 2x2 Mushkin silverline.CPu-Z shows me two stick ram and their timings but bios and win7 see only 2gb.What is the problem any idea?In previus bios everything was fine.
My system:
-Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
-CPU Phenom IIx4 955 BE
-MSI 870A-G54
-2x2 Mushkin Silverline
-Seagate 7.12 500GB
-Spinpoint 1Tb F3
-Asus 4850 512ram
-DVD-RW Pioneer
-Corsair 550VQuote from: hakunamatata on 04-July-11, 02:45:46
I checked from the MSI usb tool bootable software report in a notepad..
I'm using Corsair gaming series ddr3 1333mhz ram and when i use CPUID it shows 667mhz (max bandwidth) at SPD now. Is it normal?
Quote from: hakunamatata on 04-July-11, 02:45:46
I checked from the MSI usb tool bootable software report in a notepad..
This is after the flash or? Can you paste all info from report?
Quote from: hakunamatata on 04-July-11, 02:45:46
I'm using Corsair gaming series ddr3 1333mhz ram and when i use CPUID it shows 667mhz (max bandwidth) at SPD now. Is it normal?
Yes its normal, 667MHz mean DDR1333 its double date rate
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