875P Bios181 - Still no Turbo or UltraTurbo?

I have recently upgraded my BIOS from 1.5 -> 1.6 ->1.7 ->1.81 and yet I still cannot get any stability trying to enable Turbo or Ultra-Turbo modes. I seem to run fine in Fast mode but I should be able to get better performance. At the moment, my DDR Ram is SPD controlled. I want to get MAT/PAT running and I read that I needed Turbo mode or higher to activate this feature?
Also, if anybody has a similar configuration, could you please email me your DDR timing settings which you think I should be running?
MSI875P FSR2 M/Board
BIOS 1.81
P4 3.06Gz 800FSB CPU
2 x 512Mb Kingston PC3200 400DDR (Dual Channel)
ATI Radeon 9800Pro

hi y'all ive been reading your comments about turbo,ultra turbo
this is what i have found i had problems trying to get turbo and ultra turbo to work on my 875p i was running mem at 2-2-2-5-8 on these settings it wouldnt work on either so i changed my settings to 2.5-4-4-5-8 and hey presto i can now use both turbo and ultra turbo
i also noticed when i tried benchmarking my mem in sisoft sandra my bandwidth shot up too much more than before
therefore if u have your mem timings too tight you wont be able to use turbo or ultra turbo! i hope that helps
my specs
p4 2.26(533)o'c to 2.8
dane elec pc2700(ddr 333) 2.5-4-4-5-8
geforce fx 5900 o'c to 438/926
antec 480w true power psu
audigy 2
6.1 inspire spks

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