875P Core Center FSB 200?

I apologize if this is a stupid question, but Core Center doesn't exactly come with a help file. I have the 875P mobo, 1 gig Kingston PC3200 CL3 in slots 1 & 3, Intel 2.8 cpu with 800 mhz fsb. My question is that when I open Core Center and pull out the left tab, it says the FSB is running at 200 mhz. Can this be right, or am I just missing something. I do remember that the bios recognized the memory as DDR400, so everything should be ok? Could I have something set up incorrectly?

You're running 800 (200 times 4 :D

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Core Center Update

I just updated my Core Center from version 1.6.1.0 to version 1.6.2.0 and now the FSB on the Cool & Quiet/Core Center shows 200 mhz where b/4 it was showing 400 mhz. Thats the only thing I did. I double checked the Bios to make sure it was still set to ddr400 which it was. So now what?

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Originally posted by steel_tiger1
I just updated my Core Center from version 1.6.1.0 to version 1.6.2.0 and now the FSB on the Cool & Quiet/Core Center shows 200 mhz where b/4 it was showing 400 mhz. Thats the only thing I did. I double checked the Bios to make sure it was still set to ddr400 which it was. So now what?
I beleive you are getting things mixed up. Core Center should have never shown 400mhz for the FSB. What Core Center displays is the Front Side Bus speed along with the multiplier (x10), not memory speed. So if it was showing 400mhz before (which was wrong), then its fixed now. If your FSB speed WAS running at 400mhz, then you'd be roasting marshmallows over your comp.
Your memory settings do not affect the FSB speed. Even though your memory is rated at ddr400, it still runs at 200 mhz (cpu-z does this), thats because it has to double it in order to run at 400. Thats the whole concept behind DDR. Same thing with ddr266, ddr333, etc..

FSB differs in core center and BIOS...

I know my FSB is set to 200 (the default value) but on CoreCEnter (lattest version) it shows 203... I'm not in a mood to make OC before getting rid of this stock cooler (but that will not be for now) so I wanted to put FSB at 200, I know the differecen isn't much and the system is runnin fine but I simply don't want it...
I have 865PE Neo2-LS and I've disabled DOT in the BIOS (1.5). Do you know what's the problem?
By the way, I just clicked "default" on core center, on the fsb and voltages menu and the CPU just locked-up and a loud sound like PPIIIIIIIIIIIIII wouldn't stop... I rebooted and worked fine but what's the problem?

What you are seeing is the dynamic overclocking feature. If your Frequency setting is set to anything other than "disabled" Core Center will attempt to find an appropriate clock setting for you, based on processor demand and processor temp.
I prefer this to traditional overcocking because it only "kicks in" when I need it.

Neo2 defaut FSB frequency , live update and core center issues

Hi,
This is the point : i bought a brand new 915P Neo2 last week,
out of the box results : Windows XP SP2 install is OK right
now, Graphics Card is working properly but the system is
still unstable !
--> I decided to install MSI core center but while running
pc freezes !
---> tested MSI live update, packets download is working
but the tool is still unstable and pc freezes .... while testing system...
---> tested a small utility (third party) from intel website
to compute P4 target and actual frequency
this tool reports that my p4 is running at 3.24 Ghz,
I double checked and found that defaut FSB was set to 810 Mhz
even after hardreset and bios safe mode, CPU is running at 203 Mhz * 16 = 3248 Mhz
I really dont understand why reset value has been set to 203 Mhz ?? why not 200 Mhz
so MSI 915 P defaut setting is 1 % overclocking strategy ?
the bios setup is not really taken into account ??
have you ever pointed out this problem with defaut frequency ? is this a problem ?
what is your opinion regarding MSI utilities ?
I have a lot of random pc freezes, too many for this board !
all advices are welcome !!

I don't usually recommend bios updates, but you should seriously consider it if you can get the board to run stable.
Test your ram with Memtest86. This should give you an indication if you can do a flash from DOS, plus it will test the ram for you.
Try setting your FSB to 201. On the 865/875 boards that will hold the setting. 203 is typical of MSI and other manufacturers, but it really isn't high enough to be considered overclocking, and certainly isn't high enough to cause problems. But it keeps them in the race with the others when the reviewer's determine which board is best by looking at the decimal places.
You don't list your power supply data. Power and ram are the usual culprits, with heat being another.
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have you ever pointed out this problem with defaut frequency ?
Who are you asking? Have you?

DKA790GX Platinum, have problem with changing FSB in Dual Core Center

Hello guys, freshblood is here,
I change fsb in Dual core center, but unfort. core temp and CPUZ don't reflect any changes.

I agree. The BIOS gives you better control with better options.
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 26-January-09, 02:14:05
Dumb MSI Dual Core Center. It is not the best tool ever developed. Use the BIOS for overclocking your system.

Dual Core Center listing varied FSB in vista

I've had it list the FSB as 467 and 1000, and I don't know if it should be doing that or why it's doing that. When I ran it in XP the FSB was always 200

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or why it's doing that
The first explanation that comes to mind is the usual one: Dual Core Center is far from being the most perfect, flawless, accurate and compatible application. The second explanation that can be added to the last one is: Vista is not exactly the cream of the pie either.
If you have more questions, it would probably not be a bad idea to give us some info about your system (read the >>Posting Guide<< first) and tell us which version of DCC your are actually using. Another important thing you should not keep to yourself, is your Vista Version (32bit or 64bit).

Core Center, Vcore readings.. red... eek!

Hi,
I'm not having any noticable problems... and get a clear run off the prime95 stress tester.. which I use to check system stability.
It's just in core center.. the left panel (opened) the vcore is in red.. and I get a warning whenever I try to press [ok] I can't adjust it to get rid of the red!
after boot up it reads:
FSB 200
Vcore 1.550 (in red)
Memory voltage 2.60
AGP voltage 1.50
I can't find any refrences or standards so I don't know whats normal
Hope someone can help

well thats a relief... is it just a graphical diffrence?.. keeping my current version of corecenter (1.6.8) won't make any diffrence to me except get rid of the red?
I'm scared to change the values.. mainly as I'm unsure what the defaults are supposed to be anyway... hitting the default button makes no diffrence.
but what are the default values anyway?
and, incedently, what does the Vcore value represent?

MSI Core Center Problem with the software

Hello all
Just wanted to let you know about a problem i had the other night. You will see my specs below but i recently installed core center and all was running well until 2 nights ago when the pc would start up into windows load up core center and then re-boot. The problem was core center it's self when windows was starting it up for some reason core center decided to overclock my pc i only realised this when i saw a brief glimpse of the CPU speed as core center started it was over 2.6 GHZ no wonder the machine shutdown i eventually got it to boot up and get into core center where i found that this time it was trying to run my machine at a FSB of 215 i reset this back to 200 and the re-booting stopped i decided to just un-install core center to save any further problem.
Have any of you guys had this problem and how many are having a similiar problem but don't realise it thinking it is the cpu or heat related just thought i would let you know about this in case anyone does have a similiar problem
Cheers everyone

i didn't even install it to tweak or overclock i was only using it to monitor my temps etc. seeing as it came on the installation disk did look at the overclocking features of it but after looking at them i returned to the default settings prefering if and when i try overclocking to do it through the bios. I was surprised as anyone that core center decided it was going to overclock my system on it's own, Maybe it's become self aware LOL
I just put this thread up in case anyone else has it installed and has similiar problems as i did so they can check to see if this is their problem thought it might be helpful as i know lots of people do have problems and find there way here looking for help

Core Center Question ?

hello guys,
i wanted to know about corecell feature and and core center i am using latest version now and my CPU fan is usually at 4440 RPM even with gaming but my system temperature increases from 43-47 usually when gaming ? is this ok and my CPU temperature is 51C because its Prescott and i cannot do anything about it ? i wanted to know does corecell protect our computer from electric shock, overheating without Core Center or it would not without core center becasue the first time after installing windows xp service pack 1 (clean installation) i hear loud noise usually the CPU fan is on full speed but as soon as i installed the latest version of Core Center it adjusts it automatically and quietly and should i change my CPU priority for Core Center as maximum does that do any thing and i wanted to know i have DDR 400 Mhz but in bios it says DDR 333 because i have 533 FSB CPU is that right ? well does that mean i wasted my money on this or does that mean an upgrade to FSB 800 will make that better.

well, your MSI P4 mobo is your friend, because it shuts the system down, when the CPU is about to overheat. and the function "spread spectrum" helps preventing all static issues. but you should disable it, when you overclock. at least its recommended that way in the manual.
your temps seem fine to me, and they look even better because you have a Prescott.
dont change any settings in corecenter. everything is just fine there. i think it reports the temps a little higher than they actually are, but thats just my two cents. but 4400RPM is really fast! my CPU fan isnt reported to be faster than 2800 at most. still enough for my CPU.
no dude, everything is fine with your system. DDR400 memory goes in sync with FSB800 CPUs, such as the northy c versions.

Core Center does not show up!

HI Guys,
I have this problem while using Core Center. When I install it and restart my pc, my tasklist shows corecell with a processor usage of 50%, but is does not show up anywhere in my taskbar. The program is running, but I cannot see the screen.
MSI 875P NEO-FIS2R with 1.8 bios
Can anyone help me out? I don't understand

I found it !!!!
The problem was my Yamaha SW-1000G. When i remove it from my system Core Center works fine under WinXp.

Core Center S/W loads as a process

System: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R MB (BIOS AMI v1.5 061803), Intel 3.0GHz Canterwood Processor, 2GB (4x512MB) Crucial PC3200 Unbuffered ECC DDR400 Memory (CT6472Z40B), ATI AIW Radeon 9700 Pro 8X AGP Video, NVidia GForce 4 PCI Video (2nd Mon), SB Audidgy Platinum Ex Sound, (1) WD 40GB ATA133 Boot Drive, (2) Seagate 120GB SATA Drives RAID 0, (2) Maxtor ATA133 120GB Drives RAID 1, ASUS 16x DVD-ROM, Sony DRU DVD Writer, & Iomeg Zip250 drive. Running Windows XP Pro.
Problem: Core Center installs and loads as a process that is using 50% of my processor time instead of as an application. Can not get the Core Center Utility to run as shown on Page 1-6 of the 875P NEO Series Quick User's Guide. Have tried downloading updated version 1053. Any suggestions?

Hi JackH,
50% during startup load or all the way for the next few hours of usage? Try updating to the latest corecenter...
All the Best... :D!!!

Core Center alternative?

I'm getting tired of the error message "Failed to load hardware monitor driver!" in Core Center 1.6.1.0. I find that I have to manually load the program, and even then, I sometimes get the same error.
Does anyone know of a good alternative to Core Center 1.6.1.0? Ideally, I'd like a program that would dynamically display FSB and Multiplier because I use Cool & Quiet and I find such information interesting. Also, the program would display the temperatures, voltages, fan speed, etc. Thanks!

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Originally posted by Cozman
that error message is i believe a conflict between the MSI software and the Creative Audiolgy software .. the way i found in the past to prevent it was to use ....
start .. run .. msconfig .. on the startup tab look for SBDrvDet ( i think or SBDetDrv ) and disable it ..
Ok I disabled the application, and it seems to work- thanks. Core center now loads without the error message.
I am curious though... what exactly did I disable? I'd hate to be without 5.1 channels when I'm playing Battlefield
Audigy 1 doesn't work with K8T Neo, and it seems Audigy2 software causes problems.... Does MSI have some kind of grudge against Creative?

Overclocking with Core Center

I am a total noob to this overclocking stuff, but trying to learn more.
I have been using Core Control to oc my mobo. Currently I have an AMD 64 2800 that is running at FSB 245 and a cpu 2205 mhz.
I have not adjusted any voltages, do I need to? What is everyones opionion of Core Center? I have verified the cpu speed with MBM and CPU-Z and they confirm what Core Center says.
Any thoughs on this am I pushing the FSB up too high?
System specs:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
1 gig (2 512's) Crucial PC3200 ram
AMD Athlon 64 2800 Newcastle
Nvidia 6800 OC By BFG tech
480 W Antec PS

Well, for a nood that's a nice OC. In order to determine if you need more voltage you need to check for stability. Get a free download of Prime95 and run the torture test on the second setting where it says lots of heat. Speaking of heat, that's more inportant than voltage. You want to check out what temps your are generating under fyll load(ie the Prime torture test. If your using stock cooling you can only go so high before heat is a problem. Adding voltage adds more heat as well. How hot is too hot? That's a question that everyone has their own answer for. I really don't like my system running much over 50c, so low 50's is where I back off. I'm sure it can go well into the fifties without gettig cooked, but I'm pretty cautious. Good luck.javascript:checklength(document.bbform);
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Newbie question on Core Center

When i bring my FSB up in Core Center manually
(not using the auto button) the vcore doesn't change and
my system runs unstable is there a way i can bring it up
or is core center supposed to bring the vcore voltage up automatically?

When you use corecenter to overclock, The auto overclock feature will turn up your FSB, but it wont touch the VCORE. you have to adjust that in the bios.Or you can do it yourself on corecenter. When I tried to overclock using core center, it would overclock on the desktop but it would not be overclocked in the bios. I would reccomend that you use A program called clockgen in conjunction with speed fan. clock gen will allow you to overclock from your desktop and even set the PCI/AGP settings independantly of the FSB. Speed fan wil allow you to adjust you fans to get maximum airflow and it will allow you to keep an eye on temps as well. get rid of corecenter

REQUEST: GFX Card temp control for Core Center

Hi !
I'm using both MSI Mainboard and GFX card, 875P Neo MP (using P4 3.2 GHz Prescott) and GF6800 Ultra AGP GFX card.
I got processor/ northbridge and GFX card watercooled.
I got one problem however, I currently am controlling the fans for the radiator with the fan control for the processor since I sometimes use processor more than GFX card, but I may have to change it to the GFX card fan controller since this also gets hottest some of the time...
I would love if there was possible to add the function to Core Center that would show the GFX card temperature, and then set the fan speed according to the greatest temperature of the GFX/CPU temperatures.
Or if it is easier, if there is a program that can do this allready made, a link to it would be nice
Thanx
Regards
Flaps

There is no thing as system/case temp sensor on theese mobos.Only cpu & nv-chipset .
The temperature you see in corecenter as systemp is actually the nvidia chipset temperature .
Northbridge memory functions is taken over by the athlon 64 , thats why MSI finds it more reasonable to display
the nv-chip temp as systemp (remember that corecenter is an allround app for all msi mobos) .
Rest of the nb/sb functions are implemented as a single chip solution in the nvidia chipset chip.
So the traditional nb/sb solution is no longer existing.
The Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX each features its own integrated memory controller—single-channel for the Athlon 64 and dual-channel for the Athlon 64 FX. Instead of connecting to a traditional northbridge, these CPUs connect to a video card through a HyperTransport Graphics Tunnel. Data intended for components like PCI cards, disk drives, and USB peripherals is then routed through a HyperTransport I/O Hub, which is embedded in the core logic chip.
http://www.techworthy.com/PCUpgrade/NovDec2003/Athlon-64.htm?Page=5

875P Core Center FSB 200?

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