875P Neo-FIS2R & ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro

Newbie here, just not to computers...
would like some help in diagnosing a problem on my NEW PC//all parts are brand new w/ 1st boot being yesterday//components listed below
875P Neo-FIS2R
P4 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB//cooled Turbotake Spark 7+
1GB Samsung PC3200 - 512MB a stick in DIMM 1 & 3//cooled Turbotake Memory Cooling Kit 40mm Fan
2 - Maxtor 120GB - Striped on Promise Controller on mobo
Allied AL-B500E 500 Watts
Fans out the ying/yang//stays very cool//does sound like an airplane taking off though
My problem is since the first time on boot ithe boot screen, BIOS setup, Windows Startup screen and not quite as bad the Windows environment, the display is messed up//in POST it shows as black squares about every 1/2" all over the screen//Windows shows them, only smaller//now because this is happening during POST makes me not beleive it is the drivers//I have DL the latest from ATI//cannot find a firmware upgrade for the card//updated the mobo BIOS to v1.8//tried 2 different OS's//Win98SE & XP Pro//changed and tweaked the settings in BIOS all w/ NO JOY!!!//at this point I am getting a little upset//I really am hoping that I did not get a bum video card//I would have tried another one but I do not have one that will install in the new mobo
Anybody got any ideas or experienced the same problem?... TIA
hardRESET

You guys are great on the fast responses!
DOS, I did try the memory removal and that did not work.  The sound card is in my signature but is still sitting on the bench waiting installation, so that is not the an issue.  I did, however open my old box and checked it's AGP card and it is a Matrox 400 Dual Head.  I put it in and tested it and it works great, well not great, but it does not have the display issues that the AIW did.  My question is, do you think it is the mobo that cannot support the latest release from ATI?  Or maybe just a bad card?
medafor, I had already tried that as well.  But thanks for the response!

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          WAN Miniport (PPTP)                               5.1.2535.0
     

    Quote from: Jack t.N. on 14-November-09, 08:00:05
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