875P Neo-FIS2R - No boot (yes, another)

After chasing the source of non-booting of my new system upgrades since Friday, I decided to try hooking up only my CPU (Intel P4 3.0 800FSB), CPU fan (Zalman CNPS7000-Cu with the speed control cranked to max), power supply (Enermax EG465P-VE FCA), and case speaker. No RAM, no IDE devices, no AGP or PCI cards, no case fans drawing on the PS, nothing except the above.
I get four green D-Bracket lights as soon as I power-up the system, and no speaker sounds.
This was my "okay, let's strip it down to nothing but the motherboard" test, and I can't think of a way to test the CPU in isolation from the motherboard. Have I identified a bad motherboard, or is there some other diagnostic I can try?
I've pretty much given up; I ordered a Gigabyte motherboard that won't arrive until late this week; it was my second choice when picking new components. I don't *want* to give up on the MSI, though; can anyone here make any suggestions?
Thanks.
Jim

I had the exact same problem b4. the D leds shows all green but system does not POST and produces no beeps.
I took to the shop and they test the motherboard and declared it dead, i dunno how it happened but as it happened 3 days after i bought it they gave me a new board.
However i'm having problems with the new board or something else again. and will be posting in a new thread and hope some one can answer me.
u said you suspect the RAM has something to do with it. so do I, i have 2 * 256 Corsair XMS3200 C2 (not Twinix), and i believe it has some problems whith this board.

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875P Neo FIS2R-Slow boot with Raid on Intel + Raid on Promise

Hello all.
Here is the configuration I'm trying to set up (and almost did)
SI 875P Neo FIS2R,MS-6758 BIOS v2.4
P4 2.6 GHz HT
500W 6fan total
2x1G Kit DDR 400
2x74 G WD Raptor Raid0 (Intel S1-2) Win XP inst
2x36 G WD Raptor Raid0 (Promise S3-4)
GeCube X1600Pro
DVD-RW (IDE 2 )
Win XP SP2 (All latest updates installed)
I followed the instructions as they are listed in the sticky (great job btw) and configured the 2 SATA 74G WD Raptor on Intel Raid controller(serial1&2) as Raid0 and install WindowsXP Prof sp 2 on it.
Then I configured the 2 SATA 36G WD Raptor on Promise controller(serial3&4) as Raid0 and added this Raid to the existing WindowsXP installation.
This set up is working very good once I'm logged into Windows with no problems at all.
The glitch is that I need 3 min waiting time till I see the windows loading logo.
I have all the latest drivers installed also IAA and INFs and my bios is as the default values except the changes mentioned in the sticky
Onboard Promise IDE - as Raid
ON-Chip IDE Configuration:
Native Mode
SATA Only
Keep SATA Active - Yes
Keep PATA Active - Yes
PATA Channel selection - Both
Configure SATA as Raid - Yes
I did the Win XP installation twice till now, taking care to install INFs and drivers in the right order but the result is the same...3-5 mins till I have a fully operational windows environment and after that all is running like a dream.
Now, I've searched in the forum and saw that many more people have the same problem but never read the solution to it, so if someone has ever found the way to solve this or has the same configuration please tell me how he did it. Even if someone knows that it can't be solved just drop me a line telling me so. Altough the system is running smoothly I find the 3 min waiting time unacceptable and frustrating. I've run out of ideas so please help me.
Thanks in advance

Hello Blazer and thank you for replying.
Answering one at a time...
are both raid arrays setup with the same stripe size?--> Yes Both arrays are configured at 16k stripes
do you see both the intel and the promise bios setup screens?-->Yes both screens (Intel(R) RAID... and Fast Built (tm) ...)appear almost instantly after MSI's logo screen showing my Raid arrays in Normal status. The delay starts after the Promise's screen till the Windows Loading logo screen.
how is the raid bootable drive identified in the boot from menu?-->
Boot Device Priority:
1st BBS-0 (Raid): Intel <name> (---> this is the OS drive on Intel controller)
2nd Disabled
3rd Disabled
Try other boot devices NO
I have also the option to select the the Drive on Promise which shows as BBS-1 (Raid) FT 378 Ary 1 but I have left it out cause it doesn't have the OS on it.
is the OS drive labeled as C: and seen as 200GB drive [as one] from the four drive array]--> No as it shouldn't cause these are two different Raid Arrays. The first Raid on Intel's controller with the 2x74G WD Disks indeed shows as one C: 137 G and has the OS on it. The second on Promise controller with 2x36G WD Disks also shows as one D: 70G.These are two separate Arrays with 2 disks each and they show as indented.
is network boot enabled causing a delayed boot?--> I don't quit understand what you mean. In case you mean what happens if I unplug the 2 disks from the promise controller then yes if I do that the system boots fast in the Windows even if I leave the Bios setting "configure promise as raid"!!!
My problem is similar with this post: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=69994.0
other posts that have reported the same trouble:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=94944.msg683258#msg683258
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81901.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=66662.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=98005.0 ---> I wish it was that simple, I did it as with all other drivers
I hope that info helps you helping me.

MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R support booting from USB devices?

I am building a super computer using the MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R. I would like to either get a USB pen drive, or an external Floppy Disk Drive in place of an internal Floppy Disk Drive.
Does anyone know if this board supports booting from a USB device?

I ordered my board as well, however, they were out of stock and it may be as long as 2 weeks before they get more in. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get yours from? I am VERY much excited about getting this board as I only await the MB and CPU. What all are you putting in yours??
Mine:
MB- Obvious
CPU- 2.4 800Mhz
RAM- 2 sticks, 256 PC 3200 XMS Corsair using dual channel, at first I think I will use the 512 pc3200 I already have though.
HDD- 80GIG W/D 7200 RPM ( May get another to run RAID 0)
VGU- Chaintech TI4200 at 8x w/ 128 DDR
CD#1- 52x cd rom
CD#2- dvd 16x, cdr 48 cdrw24 cdrom 48
500W raidmax Pwr Sup
Koolcases Panther case w/ window and 3 80MM/ 1 60MM fans
For now I will even use the old 3.5 A drive. Just in case.
Red light internaly
Digidoc 5 for thermal monitoring on:
1.cpu 2.ram 3.VGU 4.case 5.HDD 6.other ram 7.chipset 8.dvd for curiousity sake. just curious of the temps they produce. but always able to move it to a more vital area if the need arises.
Will be upgrading to liquid cooling in the future, that way when I am deployed the temps stay in the blue. (HOPEFULLY)

875P Neo FIS2R DRAMM / Boot Problems

After having significant difficulties with my new machine
I thought it may be helpful to others to know how I fixed the Mother Board problems. I have the following configuration:
875P Neo-FISR
P4 3.02 GHz 478P 800fsb
Two Geil PC 3200 400MHz 500mb DDR’s at positions 1 & 3
( CAS 2 6-3-3 1T; 2.6-2.9 V)
Two Seagate 120 Gb 7200rpm SATA drives on Promise Raid 0
Generic Cd Reader
Pioneer DVD Writer DVRA05
ATI 9700 Pro
Aquarius Liquid Cooler
Enermax Fan Monitor
( Addictions are bad )
Open all the boxes and put everything together. Boots up once and then starts active unstable.
Clear the CMOS and then it fails to post at all.
No monitor at all.
Looking at this web site I thought that putting the Aquarius Fan on the SFAN 1 slot may not be playing with CoreCell Chip well. Switched to the Enermax and it boots. Remains very unstable. Reading an email here I changed the DDR voltage to 2.7. System stable but I can’t get the Promise RAID to engage.
Looked at another email ( Thanks Mr. K. Keenan)
and set the BIOS as follows:
Frequency / Voltage Control:
CPU Ratio Selection: Locked
Dram Frequency : AUTO
Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
Adj. CPU BUS Clock: 230
DDR Clock: 460
Adj. AGP/PCI Clock: 67.1/33.50
CPU Vcore Adjust: YES
CPU Vcore: 1.5750V
DDR Power Voltage: 2.70 ( KK suggested 2.65)
AGP Power Voltage : 1.75
Everything stabilized.
Start adjusting the Promise RAID settings (following M. Johnson’s advice)
as follows in the BIOS:
ON CHIP IDE Configuration
ON Chip ATA Operate Mode: Native Mode
ATA Configuration : S-ATA Only
P-ATA Keep Enabled : YES
P-ATA Channel Select : BOTH
S-ATA Ports Definition: PO-1st/P1-2nd
Configure S-ATA as Raid : YES
Back to
INTEGRATED PHERIPHERALS
ONBOARD Promise IDE: as RAID
Run Windows 2000 prof and it finds the array but can’t format ( ???)
Tried formating with Millenium Boot disk ( Bad move).
Windows ME won’t let Win 2000 boot.
Clear CMOS and then the system dies.
Spent days trying to get at least the monitor to fire with no luck.
Reread web site and picked up on the Low Latency Memory issues noted
in a note ( Thanks Mr. K. Keenan again). Put in some Kingston cas2.5
333 DDR’s at 1 & 3 positions.
Fires up immediately.
Windows 2000 boots and loads. Totally stable.
Never to be one that leaves well enough alone…
Set the BIOS under
ADVANCED CHIP FEATURES as follows:
Under dram Timing Setting:
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD : Disabled
Cas Latency: 2
RAS # Precharge 3
RAS # to CAS# Delay: 3
Precharge Delay: 6
Burst Length : 8
AGP Aperture Size: 128 MB
Shut down and replaced the 1GB ( 2 x 500) Geil DDR 400’s.
Rock stable and faster.
Evidently when you clear the CMOS, the board resets
the DDR Power Voltage to 2.50 which is too low for
some of the faster DDR SDRAM’s. Unless you put
slower chips in you can’t adjust the bios to a higher voltage.
I would love to know why MSI did that.
Hope this trail helps somebody else.
Best RBC

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Originally posted by Undergrid
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Evidently when you clear the CMOS, the board resets
the DDR Power Voltage to 2.50 which is too low for
some of the faster DDR SDRAM’s. Unless you put
slower chips in you can’t adjust the bios to a higher voltage.
I would love to know why MSI did that.
Simply, when you use the jumpers to reset the BIOS all the settings, including the voltages, get reset to the default. The default power setting for RAM is 2.5v, and I would assume that its difficult to find RAM that doesn't run at that voltage at least well enough to get into the BIOS. What use would the jumper reset be if it only selectivly reset settings?
Hi all,
The system will reset the performance to Slow and the DDR ram timing to default by just 4 unsuccessful boot up.
Meaning just press reset button for about 4 times and the system will boot with the default setting for the performance and RAM Timing.
So I do not need to do jumper reseting or open the CPU casing.
Cheers.

875P NEO-FIS2R no boot with memory problems

I just got a NEO FIS2R board, a P4 2.6C, and two 512MB sticks of OCZ PC3200 Premier DDR. I installed the board and connected only my hard drive, video card (GeForce4 Ti4200), both sticks of memory, and CPU (on a 300W PSU). At first, the board would eventually make it to the "booting OS" stage, after spending a little time on "initializing video" (normal) and "assigning ISA" or something like that (don't know what that is, since the board has no ISA slot). Unfortunately, although my monitor's light changed from yellow to green, meaning it was getting a signal, the screen remained blank. I gave it a few minutes and finally turned off the computer. After reseating the video card and memory and disconnecting the hard drive, the same problem occurred. Finally, I took out one of the sticks. After this, the computer hung on that ISA thing for about ten seconds, and then went back to "detecting memory" and gave a 2-1 error beep. I switched between the two OCZ sticks and also two sticks slow generic PC2100 memory that I had in my old computer and I know work fine. Eventually the computer stopped pausing at the ISA stage and went to the memory detection after only a second or so. Since the video was obviously acting strange, I disconnected the video card so the computer contained only CPU and memory. The bootup sequence was the same, except that in place of the single beep during video intialization, it gave me a 2-8 error code. Finally, I took the board out of my case and laid it flat on the wooden table and tried again. Still no boot. I also cleared CMOS several times throughout this procedure, so that shouldn't be the problem.
Can anyone figure out what's going on here? It's especially confusing to me that the computer booted all the way (sans video) at first, then started having memory problems, and that the system passes the initial memory test but then goes back to it after that ISA thing (this is all according to the D-Bracket).

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On the compatability list, it says
"Kingston KVR400X64C25/512
W942508BH-5 (Winbond)"
Since the memory I am looking at is CL2, does that mean it might not be compatible after all?
If you're wondering whether the Kingston HyperX RAM you're looking at is the same as the Kingston RAM you've found on the compatibililty list, the answer is NO. The RAM from the list that you're referring to has a model number that starts with "KVR", which stands for "Kingston Value RAM". HyperX RAM has model numbers that start with the letters "KHX".
You might also note that there is no listing for any of the HyperX stuff on that compatibility chart. However, I have seen posts from several people on this forum who seem to be using HyperX RAM with no problem. I suspect that MSI hasn't updated that list in awhile, because there are no listings for many of the newer PC 3500, 3700, and 4000 RAM models.
I personally went 512mb (2x256) of OCZ PC3200EL DDR RAM, it is listed as 'OCZ (PN- OCZ400256EL ) PN- OCZ400256EL' on the compatibility chart. I had plenty of problems trying to run a set of Corsair TwinX 3200PCT ver. 1.2 on my 875P NEO board, and I settled them by switching over to the OCZ RAM only because it was listed. While it wasn't my first choice I'm pretty happy with it because so far it's been running stable at CAS 2,2,3,6, with the voltage at 2.65.

Is PXE network booting supported on 875p Neo FIS2R?

Hi all,
I have spent a full day trying to get my computer to boot via PXE from a remote server. My computer is equipped with an MSI 875p Neo FIS2R motherboard.
relevant stats are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI 875p Neo FIS2R
Ethernet Card: Integrated on Motherboard (Intel 82547EI (CSA Interface Gigabit LAN))
The PXE server to which I am trying to connect is running Windows 2000 Server and is configured with Windows Remote Installation Service. The server has been tested with another pxe client (my laptop) and I am able to boot over the network succesfully. It looks like everything is configured properly on the server side.
I am using the msi motherboard's Intel 82547EI integrated ethernet controller when attempting to connect to the server. I do not have another PCI ethernet controller that I can try as an alternative.
I could not find any mention of network booting in the boot sequence section of the BIOS configuration, nor anywhere else in the BIOS settings. I have made sure the integrated ethernet controller is enabled in the BIOS.
I also upgraded the BIOS to the most recent version (2.4) but there is still no sign of any 'network boot' settings in the boot sequence nor anywhere else in the BIOS settings.
See the following webpage for the BIOS versions:
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp?platform=Intel&model=875P%20Neo-LSR/FIS2R%20(MS-6758%20PCBv1)&newsearch=1
Note that BIOS version 2.2 specifically mentions:
"This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System cannot login to PXE server without floppy drive installed."
This seems to suggest that the motherboard supports PXE. While I do not have a floppy drive installed on my machine, this BIOS update indicates that a lack of a floppy drive should not pose a problem.
When booting the computer I am presented with a few keystroke options, one of which is to press F12 for a 'Network Boot'. After pressing F12 I receive no indication that the computer is attempting to contact a PXE server and the computer boots into Windows XP as usual.
I have searched the MSI forums and have yet to come across a solution. Signs point to there being PXE support but I must be missing something. Can anyone give me any definitive answers here? Thanks in advance.

I've since been in contact with MSI technical support. Oddly they cannot seem give me a definitive answer on the support of PXE in MSI motherboards so again I'm turning to you guys. I'm really hoping someone out there has some experience with PXE and any sort of MSI motherboard. Surely someone must have run into this issue before. Anyone? Anyone at all?

875P Neo-FIS2R boot problem

Hello,
Just built a new machine with the following parts. Sometimes it boots fine, but mostly when you turn it on nothing happens, no beeps, no visual, no nothing. Also, once in awhile it takes 15 - 20 seconds before it beeps and visuals come on screen. It's using bios version 1.2 with all default settings by shorting out jumpers. (It gives different voltage settings when reset by jumpers vrs utility.) Once it boots it runs fine, even though memory timings are 2-4-4-6 SPD instead of 2-2-2-6 SPD that my memory modules are suppose to be. However when I manually change to 2-2-2-6 the bios shows that but CPU-Z still shows 2-4-4-6, thats a different story though which a bios update would probally fix. Right now all I want is for it to boot consistently, every time. Ive tried a different power switch and a different power supply. Neither helped and this is driving me crazy, somebody please assist or post any information you might feel would help.
Intel Pentium 4 2.4CGHz Processor 800MHz FSB
MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R
Corsair 512MB PC-3200/400MHz DDR Ram (TWINX512-3200LL)
ASUS GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB 8X (V9280 TD)
Integrated six channel audio on motherboard
Western Digital 80GB 7,200RPM 8MB Cache (WD800JB)
LITE-ON 16x/48x DVD/CD-ROM Drive (XJ-HD165H)
LITE-ON 52x24x52 CD-RW Drive (LTR-52246S)
TEAC 3.5" Floppy Drive
Black Raidmax Case with 350W Power Supply (278WB)
CTX Executive 19" TrueFlat 1600x1200 (EX950F)
Windows XP Home Edition Full Install
Nice black and silver multimedia keyboard
Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical
Intel 56K V.90/V.92 PCI Data, Fax, Speakerphone

Hey,
I have /had same problem with Neo 875 and corsair TWINX512-3200LL and bios V1.2 It has something to do with mem settings and/or Vdimm voltage. At this moment it boots fine but I can't explain way. It seems that this kind of memory is very sensitive for the Vdimm voltage. 2.5V is to low and some systems refuse to post. (see the bios 1.4 flash problems) Must user use 2.6v; 2.65v or 2.7v. Check out if you can find a stable setting. Bios v1.2 uses default SPD settings. you can't change them. Although after bios reset (removed battery) I get some different values with cpu-z. 2-2-2-6 I don't understand why I get those values in CPU-Z. I don't believe that my system is running with those settings. I think it's running with default bios 1.2 settings 2,5-4-4-6 but who knows?
A lot of users had dead MOBO's when they flashed to v1.4. The reason isn't found. Some moderators say the didn't wait for the DOS prompt after flashing (Could be) Some users can confirm they did. Maybe it has to do with the corsair memory. If you do a search you will find a lot of usefull information (bios v1.4 and/or MOBO hangs on keyboard initialisation)

875P NEO FIS2R problems with booting at power-up

Having problems with booting at power-up.
Recently, with no apparent modification to system - at power up the system will often not boot. About 80% of time systems seems to go into a loop with CD/DVD drive light blinking a few times, then the floppy drive light comes on and can hear the FDD run – within 30 seconds or so, this process starts over again. Power switch LED is on and HDD LED is on (continuously). All fans are running (power supply fan, case fan, CPU fan and Intel Canterwood 875 fan ).
Monitor power on light is in power save mode (amber) when system does not boot. When boot is successful the monitor power light turns green immediately.
After pressing the reset button several times (varies between pressing reset button 1 time to 30 or more times) system will then boot OK or go into set up.
Once running there is no apparent problem.
This mainboard comes with D Bracket containing 2 USB 2.0 ports, and 4 diagnostics LEDs - when boot problem occurs the diagnostic LEDs, give a code that in the MSI mainboard manual states “Initializing Keyboard Controller” and diagnostic LEDs stays in this mode until via reset button provides a successful boot and start up.
Have reseated all connectors.
SYSTEM
Mainboard – MSI 875P Neo FIS2R (MSI 6758)
BIOS – AMI v1.8 (has not been updated)
CPU – Intel P4 2.6 GHz - system bus 800 MHz 512 KB L2 Cache
Memory – 1.5 gb (2 x 256 mb and 2 x 512mb)
Power Supply – Antec 380 watt
HDD – IED WD 160 GB and IED WD 40 GB
Video Card – ATI Radeon 9600 (128 RAM)
Operating System – MS Windows XP Pro (sp2)

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 17-May-08, 03:34:12
Have you done >>Clear CMOS Guide<<?
Cleared CMOS - no change same problem. Also, re-seated all connectors at same time.
Quote from: Wonkanoby on 17-May-08, 09:06:54
have you just added the second wd drive
are they jumpered right
jumperless if alone on ide
jumpered master /slave if two on it
No, second 40GB HDD was installed months before this issue started and is jumpered as slave drive. Also, no other additional hardware installed for several months before issue.

875P Neo-FIS2R & ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro

Newbie here, just not to computers...
would like some help in diagnosing a problem on my NEW PC//all parts are brand new w/ 1st boot being yesterday//components listed below
875P Neo-FIS2R
P4 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB//cooled Turbotake Spark 7+
1GB Samsung PC3200 - 512MB a stick in DIMM 1 & 3//cooled Turbotake Memory Cooling Kit 40mm Fan
2 - Maxtor 120GB - Striped on Promise Controller on mobo
Allied AL-B500E 500 Watts
Fans out the ying/yang//stays very cool//does sound like an airplane taking off though
My problem is since the first time on boot ithe boot screen, BIOS setup, Windows Startup screen and not quite as bad the Windows environment, the display is messed up//in POST it shows as black squares about every 1/2" all over the screen//Windows shows them, only smaller//now because this is happening during POST makes me not beleive it is the drivers//I have DL the latest from ATI//cannot find a firmware upgrade for the card//updated the mobo BIOS to v1.8//tried 2 different OS's//Win98SE & XP Pro//changed and tweaked the settings in BIOS all w/ NO JOY!!!//at this point I am getting a little upset//I really am hoping that I did not get a bum video card//I would have tried another one but I do not have one that will install in the new mobo
Anybody got any ideas or experienced the same problem?... TIA
hardRESET

You guys are great on the fast responses!
DOS, I did try the memory removal and that did not work. The sound card is in my signature but is still sitting on the bench waiting installation, so that is not the an issue. I did, however open my old box and checked it's AGP card and it is a Matrox 400 Dual Head. I put it in and tested it and it works great, well not great, but it does not have the display issues that the AIW did. My question is, do you think it is the mobo that cannot support the latest release from ATI? Or maybe just a bad card?
medafor, I had already tried that as well. But thanks for the response!

[875P Neo Series] 875P NEO FIS2R - Bootup delay with disk attached to Promise RAID

Hi,
I have a problem with my 875P NEO FIS2R mobo. I just added a 400GB SATA RAID-0 array to the Promise controller and now I get a 50 second bootup delay after the BIOS has run through everything and beeped and before the first WinXP splash screen.
I boot up from a 160GB SATA RAID-0 array on the intel ICH5R controller. Both arrays work fine from within Windows. I have two DVD drives on the ICH5R PATA connection but nothing else on the Promise.
If I disable the Promise controller in BIOS the delay goes away.
I have tried disabling SMART, turning off the quick-boot option with no effect.
When I first installed my system I tested performance with booting from a single SATA drive on ICH5R vs Promise and I noticed the same issue, but didn't care then because I only needed one disk so I just kept Promise disabled in BIOS.
Any ideas how I can get around this?
Regards,
Jonathan

Sorry I have been a away for a few days.
Details requested...
Quote from: redeyedog on 21-June-05, 05:50:27
If the Promise controller was out of the picture (Disabled), and you have the SCSI adaptor and its devices setup:
1. What is the adaptor's SCSI ID?
7
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2. List devices, position in the chain and their corresponding SCSI ID's.
#7 Adaptec 2930CU card
#4 Nikon Coolscan LS30 scanner
#3 Umax Astra 1220S scanner
#5 Iomega ZIP 100 drive
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3. What type of terminination are you using?
Adaptec card has auto-termination.
ZIP drive has a termination connector attached.
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4. Are the devices in the chain functioning properly?
Yes.
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I agree that your problem is your SCSI controller. There may not be anything actually wrong with it. The 2930 was an agressive controller card and its BIOS simply may not coexist with your motherboard's BIOS optimally. Even with the BIOS disabled, it may be competing with the motherboard's request for handlers.
You may want to check to see if there is a BIOS update on Adaptec's website. Adaptec usually released 1 or 2 updates for each SCSI generation they produced. It may or may not help but we need to make sure you have the latest BIOS released.
Unfortunately, this card cannot be reflashed.
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At any rate, I think you have found the component which is responsible for the delay. I'm willing to assist in diagnosing the issue but I need you to provide the specific information I'm requesting.
Also, try to do a CTRL-Pause to catch exactly what the BIOS version is and any other information which is showing up with the BIOS disabled. The SCSI adaptor BIOS, in fact, should not be enabled in your SCSI configuration as you have described thus far.
Adaptec AHA 2930CU SCSI BIOS v1.34.1.
There seems to be a difference between BIOS and host adapter BIOS. You always get the BIOS screen, but you can disable the host adapter BIOS if it is not required.
I am pretty sure it is not the SCSI chain that is wonr because the pause happens with nothing connected to the card.
Jonathan

MS 6758 ( 875P Neo FIS2R ) Possible Bios Glitch

Just got this new board the other day and as most would attest to doing and hour or so after getting it running, I decided to update the bios to the latest version from v1.4 to v1.6. OK then, no real dramas except for one minor issue. If I select QUICK BOOT and DISABLE the LOGO screen so as to show the post screen instead, the computer locks up on ASSIGN RESOURCES TO ALL ISA. If I re-enable the logo screen ie. the MSI logo etc, then it boots fine. If I disable this logo screen, and also disable quick boot so it does it's full memory check, it boots fine also.
This only started since flashing the bios to v1.5. I then flashed to v1.6 and it still did the same thing. Very weird indeed. Everything is hunky dory though. No problems whatsoever. Just the above small glitch. It sounds to me like a possible glitch in the bios code to me. Just curious if other people are having the same problem.
It doesn't matter what the other settings are throughout the bios. The above 2 settings are the only ones I have found that seem to effect this problem. If anyone else can simulate the same scenario as what I have, then let me know. It may just me a hardware config issue. Who knows. Nothing is OCed. All stock speeds. Apart from the memory timings.
MSI, are you listening?
Intel P4 2.4BGhz ( 533Mhz FSB )
MS 6758 ( 875P Neo FIS2R v1.6 )
512Mb Kingmax DDR400 ( 2x256Mb Dual Channel Mode ) ( 2.5,2,2,5,8 )
ASUS V8460 ( Ti4600 128Mb )
Creative Audigy DE
40Gb Maxtor Viper
Pioneer DVD ROM
Lite-On 48x24x48
431W Enermax PSU
Lian Li PC60
Sony G520
BLA BLA BLA BLA.
Thanx PPLs.
:P :P :P

could it be MSI's QC? Seems like people have had alot of mixed success with this board. Some people say it's the greatest since sliced bread some people can't get it to boot. Everyone's system has a different config so it's hard to say but would seem that there's just too many ongoing issues to be a consistant incompatiblity with components used with the board. Chi Pete your sound card, look into one by Philips called Acoustic Edge. I know it's not a SB Audigy but that's the whole point for me, no IEEE 1394 to deal with. Until Creative allows that to be disabled or removes it completely from their cards I'll never buy another one. Anyway the Philips got some pretty good reviews, looks like the software has some interesting control abilities and comes setup like a SB Live, no firewire, no usb, no parallel port just a game port and audio connections. And BTW how does the Cirrus Logic chipset sound? or does your Santa Cruz have a different chipset?

Is the 875P Neo-FIS2R a bad mb?

Like the title says:
Is the 875P Neo-FIS2R a bad motherboad? I can understand that tis is a place where you will find more problems then anything else. But I mostly see motherboard specific problems, that occur on many mb's of the same type. I find that a bit disturbing...
A friend of mine never had any troubles with it, then again, he might not tell me, or he is lucky. But based on his 'good' experience I have a 875P lying here right now.
I cannot use it yet since I am missing a graphic card to go with it, I expect that to arrive next Tuesday. Im a bit nervous now.....
Another question while I'm at it: will both controllers (the Intel and the Promise) work, or are the mutual exclusive. So I guess I mean is: do I have 3 P-ATA connectors on my mb or either 2 or 1??
If it is the latter option, that would be lame, then I would have to insert my PCI card with a pomise controller....

I have to say the 875P is definitely NOT a bad motherboard as long as you have approved components. It works very well for "standard" usage. It has all of the top features from Intel - 875P chipset, 10Gbit CSA, ICH5R, ADI audio, firewire, etc.
I am concerned with some things MSI could/should have done better in the first place:
1. Wrong NB temp (and it seems to be affected by NBFAN)
2. No SFAN speed monitoring though it wouldn't have cost more to put it in ... X(
3. Slow frequency of BIOS release or update fixes vs other "top tier" motherboard manufacturers
4. More issues than others with popular memory modules
5. Confusing or "poorly documented" BIOS features/interface leave tweakers less in control
6. Corecell, DOT & MAT, BIOS are still a work in progress
When you start looking for topnotch performance and stability via tweaking OR major overclocking - that is where it falls short - contrary to what their marketing says.
Read this thread where an 875P owner compares his new Asus P4C800E Deluxe (after his 875P Neo failed and had to go for RMA). I summarize his "review" here:
Quote
Criteria on MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R vs ASUS P4C800E DeLuxe
Ease in setting up P4C800E
Memory compatibility P4C800E
Overclocking
- setting options Neo
- higher performance P4C800E
- lower temperatures P4C800E
- lower voltages P4C800E
Video card compatibility Neo
Hard drive performance Same
Benchmark scores Est. 5% better on Asus vs MSI
Extra Goodies:
ASUS - ability to use USB ARMD devices and emulate them as floppies, HDD, and even CD-ROM
MSI - AUTO overclocking (Captain, etc. on the Neo boards - 5%, 10% etc on the Asus boards) works much better
quote:
... the Asus is much less of a problem child when setting up. So my final ruling is, don't expect much more from the ASUS board, but if you are fed up with your 875P Neo, or are returning/RMA-ing your board anyway, you might be pleasantly surprised with what the ASUS P4C800/E/Deluxe can do for you.
I think you'll find similiar comparisons from 865PE Neo2 users who had tried the P4P800...
So far many have said they're still keeping their MSI boards when RMA comes back
Conclusions:
- Good HW but FW/SW satsifactory~needs_improvement. :]
- If you don't do major tweaking , and want stability + full features, the 875P is a GOOD board overall, IMHO. 8)

875P neos fis2r IDE 3 Question

I have a raid 0 setup on the promise SER3 and SER4 connectors=sata
I also have a normal IDE 80 gig that I use for internal music and such. It is alone, no slave with it.
It was connected to IDE1, but it is soo crammed in there that I decided to move i down below by the SER 3 and SER 4.
My cdrom and dvd are master slave on IDE2.
So, when I boot up, my 80 gig on IDE3 is not detected, nor shows up in disk manager.
How to get it to "notice" it?
I also have an external esata 500 gig on ser1.
Any Suggestions?

Thanks for responding Leekh
the mobo 875p neo fis2r has 3 ides. 1 and 2 are next to eachother, then the floppy A next to those.
side by side. IDE 3 is down below-(yellow) next to ser3 ser 4 1st generation sata connetors.
I Have cdrom/dvd as /master slave on IDE1,
I moved my 80 gig-xtra drive to IDE 3.-because it was a crammed fir in IDE2.
my OS is setup on c drive raid 0 with 2x150 gigs via the ser3and ser4 mentioned above.
to better clarifysee page 2-18 of the manual
IDE1 blue IDE 2 white
here is a pic IDE3 is yellow,
to clarify my whole system.
my os is on raid0 on the connectors below the yellow. I have one esata 500 gig connected to the bottom orange, ABOVE the yellow. the other one is unoccupied.
I switched an internal HD from IDE2, to IDE3 (yellow above)-and I cannot get it detected for some reason. I do not know if it is a bios config or not, I go in there,look for 2 secs, and wanna runaway crying to my mommy.
I copy and paste a review part here.
" Like all motherboards with an 875P/ICH5(R) chipset combination, there are two Serial ATA connectors located next to the ICH5 South Bridge (ICH5R in the 875P Neo-FIS2R's case). As you may or may not already know, this new South Bridge controls both SATA connectors and in fact allows a stream of 266MB/s of data instead of the slower, PCI bus constrained 133MB/s which can get awfully clogged with having to attend to other needy components. Read through our 875P chipset review to understand the benefits of placing the Serial ATA controller in the South Bridge as opposed to a separate PCI Serial ATA controller.
" We are very pleased to see that the 875P Neo-FIS2R contains exceptional IDE/Serial ATA drive support. As is always the case there are two standard IDE connectors, dubbed the Primary and Secondary IDE connectors, which support two channels each or up to four IDE drives total.
The 875P Neo-FIS2R's Promise PDC20378 controller powers the third IDE controller on this motherboard, and is capable of supporting exactly two IDE drives. This same Promise PDC20378 controller also powers two Serial ATA connectors in addition to the two ICH5-bound Serial ATA connectors. You'll be able to connect one drive to each of the four SATA connectors powered by the ICH5 and Promise SATA connectors. So in total, you'll be able to connect four SATA and six IDE drives to this motherboard, which equals a grand total of ten possible drives that can be connected to this motherboard. As we said in our ASUS P4C800 Deluxe review, most desktop users will find this feature to be nice instead of necessary; but there will always be those who desire this capability for something a little more potent than desktop usage. "
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=1820&p=2

Can MSI add DOT to 875P Neo-FIS2R

Hi! Those guys here!
Will DOT be added to the 875P Neo-FIS2R in the next bios???
I'm using the BIOS1.6 but I still couldn't find DOT!
I hope it will be in BIOS1.7.
I LOVE MSI that's why I bought my board!
My Computer's Configuration:
P4 2.4C+875P Neo-FIS2R+GEIL DDR400 512MB+Winfast A310 Ultra
THANKS :D :D :D

There are some threads stating that it's already in the Beta 1.74 BIOS but requires a specific version of CoreCell (which is indicated by a DOT sticker on the board/box)
There was also another thread saying that aside from this, it seems to depend on the processor installed - which I find puzzling ?(

875P Neo-FIS2R File Copy errors loading Win XP Pro

While installing WinXP Pro SP 1 I get file copy failures on random files two or three times during the install. Retry succeeds on the file, but errors keep coming up after install randomly. Explorer crashes on logon, files are corrupt, etc. Tried two different MBs, two different CPUs, two different PSUs, two different sets of RAM, different IDE cables, booting from both DVD Drives, different Win XP CDs. I also tried the same with a Gigabyte 875 board and had exactly the same problem. With the Gigabyte board, if I ran the bus with a setting of 190 or 195 instead of 200MHz, the system ran fine, but then my 2.8GHz CPU is running at 2.66GHz. I can't go slower than 200MHz (but I did try 201 and 202; same errors) on the Neo-FIS2R so I can't find a setting that is stable and that's the board I'd like to be running. Any ideas about what's causing all of these combinations from running stable at a stock setting of 2.8GHz?
Thanks.
Mike Wolfe
P4 2.8C @FSB 200, HT Enabled
Corsair Platinum TwinX DDR400 2x256MB
875P Neo-FIS2R Bios Version 1.8
ATI AIW 9600 Pro 128MB No OC
PowerUp 350W Power Supply
WD2000JB 200GB; Master on IDE 1; No S-ATA
Sony DDU 1621 16x DVD ROM Master on IDE2
Sony DRU-510A DVD+-R/RW Slave on IDE2
BIOS Defaults - 200MHz CPU Bus - DDR Voltage 2.7V
On Board Promise Disabled; IDE Bus Master; P-ATA Only

I am also having trouble with this on xp pro. When fully installed I get many random errors. New at this but have read that if you install a partition more than 137 gb data corruption may occur. So I partitioned the drive 20, 70, 70, and installed xp pro on the 20 gb partition. Per mb and hdd manuals I installed xp sp1. I am still getting random errors. This is the only hdd. Maxtor 160 gb ata 133 on ide1. Is it impossible to run the system this way? It gives me random crashes and stop requests. It also at one point gave me erros saying the cdrom memory is corrupt. Is the hdd drive sze possibly the problem?
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