875P Neo FIS2R-Slow boot with Raid on Intel + Raid on Promise

Hello all.
Here is the configuration I'm trying to set up (and almost did)
SI 875P Neo FIS2R,MS-6758 BIOS v2.4
P4 2.6 GHz HT
500W 6fan total
2x1G Kit DDR 400
2x74 G WD Raptor Raid0 (Intel S1-2) Win XP inst
2x36 G WD Raptor Raid0 (Promise S3-4)
GeCube X1600Pro
DVD-RW (IDE 2 )
Win XP SP2 (All latest updates installed)
I followed the instructions as they are listed in the sticky (great job btw) and configured the 2 SATA 74G WD Raptor on Intel Raid controller(serial1&2) as Raid0 and install WindowsXP Prof sp 2 on it.
Then I configured the  2 SATA 36G WD Raptor on Promise controller(serial3&4) as Raid0 and added this  Raid to the  existing WindowsXP installation.
This set up is working very good once I'm logged into Windows with no problems at all.
The glitch is that I need 3 min waiting time till I see the windows loading logo.
I have all the latest drivers installed also IAA and INFs and my bios is as the default values except the changes mentioned in the sticky
Onboard Promise IDE - as Raid
ON-Chip IDE Configuration:
Native Mode
SATA Only
Keep SATA Active - Yes
Keep PATA Active - Yes
PATA Channel selection - Both
Configure SATA as Raid - Yes
I did the Win XP installation twice till now, taking care to install INFs and drivers in the right order but the result is the same...3-5 mins till I have a fully operational windows environment and after that all is running like a dream.
Now, I've searched in the forum and saw that many more people have the same problem but never read the solution to it, so if someone has ever found the way to solve this or has the same configuration please tell me how he did it. Even if someone knows that it can't be solved just drop me a line telling me so. Altough the system is running smoothly I find the 3 min waiting time unacceptable and frustrating. I've run out of ideas so please help me.
Thanks in advance

Hello Blazer and thank you for replying.
Answering one at a time...
are both raid arrays setup with the same stripe size?--> Yes Both arrays are configured at 16k stripes
do you see both the intel and the promise bios setup screens?-->Yes both screens (Intel(R) RAID... and Fast Built (tm) ...)appear almost instantly after MSI's logo screen showing my Raid arrays in Normal status. The delay starts after the Promise's screen till the Windows Loading logo screen.
how is the raid bootable drive identified in the boot from menu?-->
Boot Device Priority:
1st    BBS-0 (Raid): Intel <name>  (---> this is the OS drive on Intel controller)
2nd   Disabled
3rd    Disabled
Try other boot devices  NO
I have also the option to select the the Drive on Promise which shows as BBS-1 (Raid) FT 378  Ary 1  but I have left it out cause it doesn't have the OS on it.
is the OS drive labeled as C: and seen as 200GB drive [as one] from the four drive array]--> No as it shouldn't cause these are two different Raid Arrays. The first Raid on Intel's controller with the 2x74G WD Disks indeed shows as one C: 137 G and has the OS on it. The second on Promise controller with 2x36G WD Disks also shows as one D: 70G.These are two separate Arrays with 2 disks each and they show as indented.
 is network boot enabled causing a delayed boot?--> I don't quit understand what you mean. In case you mean what happens  if I unplug the 2 disks from the promise controller then yes if I do that the system boots fast in the Windows even if I leave the Bios setting "configure promise as raid"!!!
My problem is similar with this post: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=69994.0
other posts that have reported the same trouble:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=94944.msg683258#msg683258
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81901.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=66662.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=98005.0 ---> I wish it was that simple, I did it as with all other drivers
I hope that info helps you helping me.

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    Recently, with no apparent modification to system - at power up the system will often not boot.  About 80% of time systems seems to go into a loop with CD/DVD drive light blinking a few times, then the floppy drive light comes on and can hear the FDD run – within 30 seconds or so, this process starts over again.  Power switch LED is on and HDD LED is on (continuously).  All fans are running (power supply fan, case fan, CPU fan and Intel Canterwood 875 fan ).
    Monitor power on light is in power save mode (amber) when system does not boot.  When boot is successful the monitor power light turns green immediately.
    After pressing the reset button several times (varies between pressing reset button 1 time to 30 or more times) system will then boot OK or go into set up.
    Once running there is no apparent problem.
    This mainboard comes with D Bracket containing 2 USB 2.0 ports, and 4 diagnostics LEDs - when boot problem occurs the diagnostic LEDs, give a code that in the MSI mainboard manual states “Initializing Keyboard Controller” and diagnostic LEDs stays in this mode until via reset button provides a successful boot and start up.
    Have reseated all connectors.
    SYSTEM
    Mainboard – MSI 875P Neo FIS2R   (MSI 6758)
    BIOS – AMI v1.8 (has not been updated)
    CPU – Intel P4 2.6 GHz - system bus 800 MHz 512 KB L2 Cache
    Memory – 1.5 gb (2 x 256 mb and 2 x 512mb)
    Power Supply – Antec 380 watt
    HDD – IED WD 160 GB and IED WD 40 GB
    Video Card – ATI Radeon 9600 (128 RAM)
    Operating System – MS Windows XP Pro (sp2)

    Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 17-May-08, 03:34:12
    Have you done >>Clear CMOS Guide<<?
    Cleared CMOS - no change same problem.  Also, re-seated all connectors at same time.
    Quote from: Wonkanoby on 17-May-08, 09:06:54
    have you just added the second wd drive
    are they jumpered right
    jumperless if alone on ide
    jumpered master /slave if two on it
    No, second 40GB HDD was installed months before this issue started and is jumpered as slave drive.  Also, no other additional hardware installed for several months before issue.

  • 875P Neo-FIS2R boot problem

    Hello,
    Just built a new machine with the following parts. Sometimes it boots fine, but mostly when you turn it on nothing happens, no beeps, no visual, no nothing. Also, once in awhile it takes 15 - 20 seconds before it beeps and visuals come on screen. It's using bios version 1.2 with all default settings by shorting out jumpers. (It gives different voltage settings when reset by jumpers vrs utility.) Once it boots it runs fine, even though memory timings are 2-4-4-6 SPD instead of 2-2-2-6 SPD that my memory modules are suppose to be. However when I manually change to 2-2-2-6 the bios shows that but CPU-Z still shows 2-4-4-6, thats a different story though which a bios update would probally fix. Right now all I want is for it to boot consistently, every time. Ive tried a different power switch and a different power supply. Neither helped and this is driving me crazy, somebody please assist or post any information you might feel would help.
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    CTX Executive 19" TrueFlat 1600x1200 (EX950F)
    Windows XP Home Edition Full Install
    Nice black and silver multimedia keyboard
    Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical
    Intel 56K V.90/V.92 PCI Data, Fax, Speakerphone

    Hey,
    I have /had same problem with Neo 875 and corsair TWINX512-3200LL and bios V1.2 It has something to do with mem settings and/or Vdimm voltage. At this moment it boots fine but I can't explain way. It seems that this kind of memory is very sensitive for the Vdimm voltage. 2.5V is to low and some systems refuse to post. (see the bios 1.4 flash problems) Must user use 2.6v; 2.65v or 2.7v. Check out if you can find a stable setting. Bios v1.2 uses default SPD settings. you can't change them. Although after bios reset (removed battery) I get some different values with cpu-z. 2-2-2-6 I don't understand why I get those values in CPU-Z. I don't believe that my system is running with those settings. I think it's running with default bios 1.2 settings 2,5-4-4-6 but who knows?
    A lot of users had dead MOBO's when they flashed to v1.4. The reason isn't found. Some moderators say the didn't wait for the DOS prompt after flashing (Could be) Some users can confirm they did. Maybe it has to do with the corsair memory. If you do a search you will find a lot of usefull information (bios v1.4 and/or MOBO hangs on keyboard initialisation)

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    I have a Raid 0 configuration with dual Raptor drives on a 875P NEO-FIS2R  .  I was wondering if people have suggestions of what options I should have enabled through the bios (rev 1.8).  Since the options don't mean much to me I played with the setting till the Raid option was enabled in the bios screen.
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  • Samsung pc3200 with 875P NEO FIS2R

    Hi,
    I have read numerous posts about problems   with memory modules with the MSI 875P NEO FIS2R in this forum.
    Just wondering if anyone has paired the MSI 875P NEO FIS2R with 2x512mb Samsung PC3200 with any of the latest BIOS version (1.4 at this time) WITHOUT overclocking? Any compatibility issues?
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  • How to disable AGP Fast Write with MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R ??

    How can I disable AGP Fast Write with the MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R ? I can't find an option for this in the BIOS !

    You wont usually find this option in most MB BIOSES , as the only Option that SOME BIOSES Have is the Option to enable, disable SBA (Side Band Addressing) for the AGP Bus....In order for you to Disable or Enable the FW, You Must have the Option in your Vidio Drivers Controll Panel.....If you have a NVIDIA Card, you Must go to  http://www.guru3d.com  And Download the program "NVHardpage" and then Open the Program and you wil have the Choice to Enable these options and they will then appear in your Vidio driver CP >> "Activate "Coolbitts" (this is NVIDIAS Overclocking Utility) Activate "Harware Options", and then Activate "AGP Options" and finally Activate "Performance Options"........If you have a ATI Card then you must Download one of thier "Tweeking Utilities".......I will Post the Direct "Link" for NVHardpage in a Minute, just say yes to the Lic. Agree. and download......Here>> http://download.guru3d.com/nvhardpage/  ...........Sean REILLY875

  • Problem with my 875P NEO FIS2R when tyring to use x4 Crucial 512MB DDR modules

    Hi all
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    From other posts I have learned so far that I either have to buy Paired modules from the manufacturer (which is no use because I bought my first x2 DDR a year ago) or only use x2 and now Dabs isnt taking the other x2 that I just bought because there is nothing wrong with the modules themselves (its the mobo).
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    Relaxing the timings will enable your RAMs to run at higher latencies so that they do not need to go extra mile to catch up with the transfer rates with the FSB.
    Lowering the frequencies is like underclocking a speedy twin turbo to a standard single turbine which means lowering of speed so that the RAMs can run lower than expectations which'll be able to provide room for o/c'ing back near to its original frequency.

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