875P Neo-FISR vs. 865PE Neo2-V

Hi, I appreciate any help with this question. I own 2 different MIS motherboards currently and would like to know which would be the better one to use for my system build.
875P Neo-FISR
or
865PE Neo2-V
Specs:
Pentium4 3.2ghz socket 478
2 sticks of PC3200 512mb DDR memory ( kingston Hyperx)
MSI geforce 6600 agp
500watt psu ( XG )
Does it matter what board I use?
Thanks!

875P chipset supports ECC RAM and 865PE/P chipset doesn't.
875P FISR is the 2nd Rev from the predecessor 875P FIS2R and has better support for Prescott CPUs. 865PE Neo2-V is a cutdown version of the predecessor 865PE Neo2 S/LS/FIS2R/PLS/P and has only 2 RAM slots.
To put the 2 for comparsion, I would choose the 875P Neo FISR but if you are not comparing the cutdown version of the 865PE chipset, I would still favour the 865PE chipset.

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For 875P Neo-FISR Sandra reports DIMM 1 "Empty" -- 512 chip not showing up

About 2 months ago, I assembled an 875P Neo-FISR with an Intel P4 3.20E GHz 1MB L2cache and 800 MHz FSB. I installed 2 Kingston KVR400X64C3A 512MB PC3200 CL3 184 pin DIMMS, one in slot 1 and the other in slot 3 so as to get dual channel mode. The system reported that I only had 512MB memory. I tried reseating the DIMMS several times with the same result. I then moved the two DIMMS to slots 2 and 4, after which the system reported 1GB RAM, and the dual channel mode appeared to be in effect.
Today, I purchased two more identical DIMMS (PC3200 512MB, same mfctr and model #) and inserted them into slots 1 and 3 for a total of 4 512MB DIMMS. The system reports that I have 1.5MB RAM, and Sandra reports that slot 1 is "empty."
I'm not happy.
I'm running a new copy of XP Pro, which came with Service Pack 2 installed. I have a variety of peripherals, WD IDE drives, ATI video card, etc. -- none of which should have anything to do with this. The original problem appeared at the most basic level of installation.

If the slot was dead two months ago it wouldn't get any better with time.
If you use only slot one does it work?

[875P Neo Series] MSI 875P Neo-FISR adn ECC registered DIMMS

I have purchased the MSI 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0) and installed a 512MB DDR333, PC2700, CL2.5, ECC registered dimm (HYS72D64300GBR-6-C) but the system won't boot up. I have a Intel Pentium 4 3 GHZ CPU, 512K cache, 800 MHZ bus installed. When I install a 512MB PC2100 unregistered the system works OK, but not with the registered ECC registered DIMM. In the manual it is quoted as saying it supports this type of memory. I have updated the BIOS to the latest version from the MSI website. Any ideas ????

I have currently have
P4 3 GHZ 800 MHZ bus on MSI 875P Neo-FISR, 2x512MB PC2100 RAM (currently working OK)
2 x seagate 250 GB SATA drives in RAID 0 ccombination
Sony 8 x DVD writer
32MB GeForce GTS AGP graphics card
Matrox RT.x100 Extreme Pro video editing card
Craetive sounblaster live 5.1
but would like to add the 2x 512MB PC2700 registered ECC dimms I just bought if at all possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn manual giving me incorrect information !!!!!

MSI 875P NEO FISR ( pcb 2.0) OVERCLOCKING database

TO ALL MSI 875P NEO FISR ( pcb 2.0):
POST YOUR OVERCLOCKS HERE

What I can achieve............ does not mean you can achieve.
I can do stable:- 3Ghz on 2.4Ghz 533 Northwood - 3.4 on 2.6 Celery Northwood 400 - But only 3.3 on a 2.8 800 Northwood.(That's on 875 Ver 2)
Depends on CPU, 865 is better for OC work on 478 and PRESCOTTs never used (Stupid dynamic core)

875P Neo FiSR (PCB 2.0)

Hi, I have this mobo with a prescott installed on it. Unfortunately this mobo doen'st support any vcore changes trough the bios. I allready flashed it to the latest bios (3.6) with no effect. The only way i'm able to adjust the vcore settings is through corecenter, but I rather do it through the bios.
I read this old topic over at ocforums where some guy named Dcasole claimed to have solved the problem:
MSI 875p NEO FISR no vcore adjustment for prescott?
In his post he refers to an older topic from this forum:
Workaround to unlock Vcore
Unfortunately this topic he refers to is allready off this forum. So if theres anyone that could give me the solution pls share it! (or Dcasole if youre reading this pls let me know how to fix this.)
All help appreciated.

Nick, download " Core Center " and use it to adjust your Vcore but use the bios for other adjustments( FSB) as it will be much more stable ( Core Center is to buggy for me to use for overclocking)
As Del states becareful when changing this value as the prescott employs what is known as Dynamic VID which means that the chip will vary the vcore according to the load that is placed upon it in an effort to control the heat
Also before changing it make sure you have a cooling solution as raising my VID .4 raised my temps 10 degrees C
But be forewarned !If you were to set your vcore at the high limit of what your chip can handle , Dymanic VID could push it over the edge
Read about why MSI chose to lock the VCore down in our boards here
Prescott Dangerous Tweeks
And some more on Dynamic VID
Dynamic VID
Hope this helps
Dave
PS - I am running at 3.59 stable ( 2.8E) with the stock VCore of 1.36 , Don't be quick to raise it till you see what you have at the stock level

MSI 875P NEO FISR ( pcb 2.0) database

how to unlock multiplier in this mobo? and vcore is locked?
all 875P neo users can contribute in here.

Quote from: Maesus on 27-October-05, 03:02:59
The multiplier on the motherboard has already unlocked. BUT!!! the CPU you used are all locked :P Unless you maange to get an unlocked engineering samples from the grey market.
how? buy a new processor?

[875P Neo Series] 875p Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0) Major problems

I just upgraded my system from:
P4 Northwood 3ghz
Gigabyte (obsolute old motherbord)
2 x 512 Hynix pc3200 (400mhz)
ati x800 xt pe 256mb 1,12 ghz
450w NorthQ Silent PSU
Now i was reading a lot of benchmarks and tests and finally i bought the 875Neo-FISR...
So what happened when i did a clean install?
I went from 4500 testscore in 3Dmark05 and down to 3000 - i was expecting to hit over 5000 with the new motherboard.
I have testet the ram (swapped them with some other kingstons and geil same scores roughly)
I got the newest dx and ati drivers etc. i even tried the omega drivers, but no drivers can make up for a difference of 2000 in score result.
Also i read that the bios would now read the prober degrees with the new bios - but my bios allways says 75 degrees celsius and when i boot into windows xp (sp2) its on 60-65 and then goes down to around 37-40 as xp stops loading.
I tried checking for heat problems on the mainboard - and the hottest thing is the cooler on the canterwood chip - 2nd hottest thing is the ati card.
Anyone have any idears? Perhaps its a defect card or any suggestions out there?
Regards.
Forgot to mention that all drivers and utilities etc are ofcause fully updated.
Right now i am running a clean windows xp install with sp2, dx9c and ati drivers + the MSI drivers.

Put my old motherboard back in...
Quote
RAM TEST:
SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 2912 MB/s
RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 2906 MB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.
Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 2915MB/s
Scaling : 2915MB/s
Addition : 2910MB/s
Triad : 2911MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 91% (estimated)
Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 2910MB/s
Scaling : 2908MB/s
Addition : 2903MB/s
Triad : 2903MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 90% (estimated)
Performance Test Status
Run ID : RED on 2. november 2005 at 13:26:36
Memory Used by Test : 512MB
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
Multi-Core Test : No
SMT Test : Yes
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No
Chipset 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS648 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 201MHz (804MHz data rate)
Width : 64-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6432MB/s (estimated)
Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 2CMD
Channels : 1
Speed : 2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
Width : 64-bit
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 3216MB/s (estimated)
Features
(W)MMX Technology : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
CPU Test
SiSoftware Sandra
Benchmark Results
Dhrystone ALU : 9079 MIPS
Whetstone iSSE2 : 6641 MFLOPS
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.
Performance Test Status
Run ID : RED on 2. november 2005 at 13:24:35
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 2
Multi-Core Test : No
SMT Test : Yes
Threads per Core : 2
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C0T1
Number of Runs : 64000 / 640
Processor
Model : 1x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Speed : 3.02GHz
Performance Rating : PR4010 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector
Chipset 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS648 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 201MHz (804MHz data rate)
Features
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : No
SSE4 Technology : No
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
As you can see the ram now perform considerably worse but the cpu is actually beeing used now.
So i reckon i got a defect motherboard.
Sadly the company where i bought it wont switch it with a new one before its been back to the factory and i aint waiting a month on a new board :(
So think ill just use my 14 day return rights and get a asus instead.

875P Neo with new Corecell DOT???

I happened to see the new MSI875P NEO with a sticker with MSI new CoreCell chip with D.O.T (Dynamic Overclocking Technology).
Can this be done with the BIOS?

As the 875P Neo and the 865PE Neo2 are derived from almost the same design, I wouldn't be surprised if DOT comes to the 875P soon.
It was first implemented on 865PE and should be possible through a BIOS update as the major components were already in place - the CoreCell chip and the freq & voltage adjustment settings.
I wish MSI would drop the corny military ranks though and use a better technical analogy.
Also, I think the voltage ranges they provide for Vcore, Vagp and Vmem are ridiculously extreme on one end, so maybe they should consider moving the ranges
Also, fix those temperature readings for System and NB.
But most importantly, give the option to fix the AGP/PCI clock!

Memory(??) Errors, 875p NEO

Hello everyone...
im having some strange problems with my computer, im trying to unpack anything bigger (zip, rar etc) and om getting alot of strange error messages, i downloaded the new Commandos 3 demo and tried to unpack it and got some error messages that some of the files coudn't be unpacked, tried with some other things packed in rar that i know that the files are ok but didn't work there either..
tried to run Prime95 test with low memory usage and it seems to run fine...
tried memtest and i belive it popped some errors there too, and tried to run Prime95 Torture test and put it to use the memory alot and it couldn't run the test getting an error message that it's some hardware error...
is there anything i can do to fix it?
my system spec:
Pentium 4 3.0 C (hyper-threading) 800 mhz FSB
MSI 875p NEO FISr-2
Corsair CMX512-3200C2 XMS3200 512Mb
Hercules 3D PRophet ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Western Digital 80 gig
my mind is tottaly blank right now, anything i've missed please ask ..

Quote
Originally posted by Assaf
I wouldn\'t be surprised if that\'s your problem, you have a kick ass system and you need a kick as PSU to feed it.
Might I suggest an Antec True Power 430/550, Enermax 430 etc...
Something that is reliable and gives at least 220W combined for 3.3+5V rails ( an doesn\'t just print 220w combined on the sticker either, I can buy tose for 15$ )
If it was a simple timing problem the RAM would be fixed at 333MHz already, if it was an actual bad stick it would probably give errors at any frequency.
a Antec True Power 480W ATX (AMD&P4 OK) are on the way, you think it's enough?
about the memory, 333 didn't work, caused errors in memtest, 266 didn't...

Max VDIMM for neo-fisr?

What is the max ddr voltage for the 875p neo-fisr (the one with the orange
pci slot)?
Thanks!

a gb of bh-5 aye! mint! no wonder u want to crank to vDimm! i would too
i think the 2nd rev only goes to 3... whereas i know the first goes up to 3.2

875P NEO - Strange problem with SATA non RAID on Promise 20378

Hello,
After replacing an IDE harddisk suddenly my S-ATA drive connected to the Promise 387 controller can not be found anymore.
When booting it says: No devices found, BIOS not installed. I got the the advice to disable S-ATA in the BIOS, but then no S-ATA drive will work ofcourse.
So here is my situation:
- MSI 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0) mainboard with A6758 BIOS version
BIOS settings:
Integrated Peripherals:
- On board Promise IDE = as S-ATA
On Chip IDE configuration:
- P-ATA only
- S-ATA keep enabled = NO (wouldn't know what this means)
- P-ATA channel selection = Both (if set otherwise it will not recognize the second IDE
controller, strange!)
- S-ATA ports defintion: P0-4th/ P1-3rd (standard setting)
- Config as RAID = NO
Also I have the Promise 1.0.1.29 drivers installed within XP, I know that MSI says 378_55 is the latest, but when installing a clean XP these drivers did not work at all, so I installed the old ones.Within XP it is recognized btw as being a "WinXP Promise SATA378 IDE controller"
What I am wondering now is:
Is it true the Promise controll controls the 3rd IDE controller as well as the S-ATA HDD? And if so can someone please tell what would be the correct settings in the BIOS when having 2 IDE HDD's connnected to the third IDE controller and 1 S-ATA disk on the Promise controller? Because the strange thing only 1 IDE HDD is recognized by XP, the other IDE HDD and S-ATA not.
Ok, I hope I was a little bit clear, I'm really desperate , so I hope you can help me out !!

Not sure what the problem is.
Like I said, all the settings in Integrated Peripherals>>On-Chip IDE Config should only affect the Intel controller(IDE1&2,Serial1&2)
The only interaction you have with the Promise controller(IDE3,Serial3&4) is through Integrated Peripherals>>Promise Controller(As SATA, As Raid, Disabled). You can also select a drive connected to the Promise as a boot device from Bios>>Advanced Features>>Boot Device Select.
I would take a step back and start over a little more slowly.
My assumption so far is that you have WinXP installed on a drive on the Intel controller and that it is booting/functioning properly.
You are trying to install 2 IDE and 1 SATA drives on the Promise controller.
1- In Device Manager, right-click on the Promise 378 controller and select uninstall. If you know for sure that the "Raid Consolel SCSI Processor Device" is from a driver you installed for the Promise controller, uninstall that too. Otherwise leave it alone.
2- Shutdown/Unplug power and disconnect all 3 drives from the Promise controller.
3- Plugin power/Boot to the Bios and set the Promise controller to "disabled". Also make sure Intel "On-Chip IDE Config" menu "Config SATA As Raid" option is set to "NO"
4- Save and reboot to WinXP. There should be no Bios errors and the Promise entries in Device Manager should be gone.
5- Shutdown/Unplug Power and reconnect 1 drive(the SATA to Serial3 for simplicity) Power + data cables!
6- Plugin power/boot to Bios and set Promise controller to "As SATA"
7- Save and reboot. You should see the drive name briefly after the initial post screen if you've disabled the MSI splash screen.
8- WinXP should say something about finding a new SCSI device. If not just see if it's in Device manager and right-click>>"Install Drivers" and point it to the driver folder from before and install the "WinXP Promise SATA378 (tm) IDE Controller Driver". Not the Fastrack ones for raid.
9- Now after another reboot if the SATA drive isn't visible from Windows Explorer, try the diskmgmt.msc utility again.
10- If all this works, try adding 1 of the IDE drives by shutting down again, installing the HDD and checking the Disk Manager. If the drives are already partitioned/formatted you wouldn't need to use Disk Manager. Repeat with the 3rd drive.
If this doesn't work, let me know which step you got to and the problem encountered.

Really weird Problem with NEO-FISR mobo.

I'm new to this site, but I am not a noob. However this is a first for me, and haven't gotten any answers from any of my co workers. I'm hoping someone else with my board (875P NEO-FISR) will have an answer.
Anywho, PC was working fine. Put it in standby mode to watch TV for awhile and come back to check e-mail a few hours later. I hit the power button and everything lights up, fans start spinning, but no POST. THen it shuts down after like 3 seconds. Then another 2 seconds and it pops on, pops on and off continually after that until I hit the switch on the power supply.
This happened twice today, and has happened maybe 3 times prior. However, every other time was a long time ago when I first set everthing up. Its been like 2 months now and here we go again.
Ididn't change anything this morning when I left the PC so I don't know what is causing it.
Its a real pain in the ass though cuz I have to clear the CMOS jumper in order too get back up and running. Then I have to reconfigure all my BIOS settings.
SO, has anyone else heard of this happening?? Happened to you??? Any suggestions or solutions would be appreciated! Thanks

I have the version 1 875P-FIS2R board and it does the same thing.
Originally, I just stopped using S3 suspend mode but I have since started using it again and bumped my performance mode down to "fast" to make this work as per a suggestion from another user on the forum(Mitch66).
You can read more on this from This Thread.
Never did ever hear of a fix for this.

[875P Neo Series] Dead mobo or dying ??

-Motherboard type and model (MSI 875P NEO-FISR)
-Bios type and revision (Latest)
-CPU type and model (3,2 P4 HT)
-Memory name, model and quantity (2 x Kingston KVR400X72C3A/512)
-Video card name and model plus drivers and version (ATI AX800 PRO)
-Power Supply name, model and the amp rating for the +3.3V, +5V and +12V lines plus any limitation on the +3.3/+5V combined watts. This information can be found on a sticker on the side of the supply. (Q-TEQ ATX 350, 3.3V = 20A, 5V = 0,5A + 35A, 12V = 0,5A + 17A, 5VSB = 2A)
-Hard Drives: (2 X 200 GB WD)
-Optical Drives: Manufacturer and type and which IDE ports they are located on: (NONE)
-Operating system and service pack level: XP SP2
the short version:
the mobo went unstable and started hanging when playing 3D aplications like medal of honour, wolfenstein ET and others...
then the hangs started occuring more rapidly, and now the pc starts VERY randomly
i often have to try to start it 10-15 times before it starts....
the chipset and cpu fan starts, the hd drives starts and the ROM starts, but no signal to vga card.
i have tried to reset chmos, changed vga card, stripped the pc, but nothing works..
and: it has worked for over 7 months without any probs...
is it possible a virus did this ??
can anybody help ???
please ???

350 watts is far to low for your system............
Min AMPS on +12V rail for your system should 24AMPS
Q-Tec do not have good rep and have caused at lot of problems
Try a brand name 450+Watt PSU Enermax or Antec or Hiper series (These I have personally tested)

875P Neo FIS2R DRAMM / Boot Problems

After having significant difficulties with my new machine
I thought it may be helpful to others to know how I fixed the Mother Board problems. I have the following configuration:
875P Neo-FISR
P4 3.02 GHz 478P 800fsb
Two Geil PC 3200 400MHz 500mb DDR’s at positions 1 & 3
( CAS 2 6-3-3 1T; 2.6-2.9 V)
Two Seagate 120 Gb 7200rpm SATA drives on Promise Raid 0
Generic Cd Reader
Pioneer DVD Writer DVRA05
ATI 9700 Pro
Aquarius Liquid Cooler
Enermax Fan Monitor
( Addictions are bad )
Open all the boxes and put everything together. Boots up once and then starts active unstable.
Clear the CMOS and then it fails to post at all.
No monitor at all.
Looking at this web site I thought that putting the Aquarius Fan on the SFAN 1 slot may not be playing with CoreCell Chip well. Switched to the Enermax and it boots. Remains very unstable. Reading an email here I changed the DDR voltage to 2.7. System stable but I can’t get the Promise RAID to engage.
Looked at another email ( Thanks Mr. K. Keenan)
and set the BIOS as follows:
Frequency / Voltage Control:
CPU Ratio Selection: Locked
Dram Frequency : AUTO
Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
Adj. CPU BUS Clock: 230
DDR Clock: 460
Adj. AGP/PCI Clock: 67.1/33.50
CPU Vcore Adjust: YES
CPU Vcore: 1.5750V
DDR Power Voltage: 2.70 ( KK suggested 2.65)
AGP Power Voltage : 1.75
Everything stabilized.
Start adjusting the Promise RAID settings (following M. Johnson’s advice)
as follows in the BIOS:
ON CHIP IDE Configuration
ON Chip ATA Operate Mode: Native Mode
ATA Configuration : S-ATA Only
P-ATA Keep Enabled : YES
P-ATA Channel Select : BOTH
S-ATA Ports Definition: PO-1st/P1-2nd
Configure S-ATA as Raid : YES
Back to
INTEGRATED PHERIPHERALS
ONBOARD Promise IDE: as RAID
Run Windows 2000 prof and it finds the array but can’t format ( ???)
Tried formating with Millenium Boot disk ( Bad move).
Windows ME won’t let Win 2000 boot.
Clear CMOS and then the system dies.
Spent days trying to get at least the monitor to fire with no luck.
Reread web site and picked up on the Low Latency Memory issues noted
in a note ( Thanks Mr. K. Keenan again). Put in some Kingston cas2.5
333 DDR’s at 1 & 3 positions.
Fires up immediately.
Windows 2000 boots and loads. Totally stable.
Never to be one that leaves well enough alone…
Set the BIOS under
ADVANCED CHIP FEATURES as follows:
Under dram Timing Setting:
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD : Disabled
Cas Latency: 2
RAS # Precharge 3
RAS # to CAS# Delay: 3
Precharge Delay: 6
Burst Length : 8
AGP Aperture Size: 128 MB
Shut down and replaced the 1GB ( 2 x 500) Geil DDR 400’s.
Rock stable and faster.
Evidently when you clear the CMOS, the board resets
the DDR Power Voltage to 2.50 which is too low for
some of the faster DDR SDRAM’s. Unless you put
slower chips in you can’t adjust the bios to a higher voltage.
I would love to know why MSI did that.
Hope this trail helps somebody else.
Best RBC

Quote
Originally posted by Undergrid
Quote
Evidently when you clear the CMOS, the board resets
the DDR Power Voltage to 2.50 which is too low for
some of the faster DDR SDRAM’s. Unless you put
slower chips in you can’t adjust the bios to a higher voltage.
I would love to know why MSI did that.
Simply, when you use the jumpers to reset the BIOS all the settings, including the voltages, get reset to the default. The default power setting for RAM is 2.5v, and I would assume that its difficult to find RAM that doesn't run at that voltage at least well enough to get into the BIOS. What use would the jumper reset be if it only selectivly reset settings?
Hi all,
The system will reset the performance to Slow and the DDR ram timing to default by just 4 unsuccessful boot up.
Meaning just press reset button for about 4 times and the system will boot with the default setting for the performance and RAM Timing.
So I do not need to do jumper reseting or open the CPU casing.
Cheers.

[875P Neo] Random crashes

I got various problems with
875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0)
1G Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ASUS 8420 (or 8240 don't really remember now) Ti4200
Creative SBLive! Value - need it because of gaming port.
All have latest drivers. The system runs at "setup defaults" all the performance related stuff set to "slow", no overclocking either. I've also noticed if I disable Hyper Threading the errors come out twice as fast.
win98 problems: I experience strange "out of memory errors" when running mechwarrior 4 mercenaries over internet (connected to the DLink LAN router). It crashes randomly after 4 - 10 minutes of the game. At some stage I got to a point when I could play for about 1 hour straight without crashes. I zipped that windows configuration and decided to try different video drivers, since then it fails every time.
w2k problems: random crashes occured couple of times:
I was doing windows file search on both network and local drive, at some point it's just rebooted without warning.
Second crash was when I was running antivirus software: heavy access to FAT partition. Though it's not the virus since the rest of the drives show no viruses.
I'm trying to find some decent overall testing utilities so I can reproduce the problem 100% and get it replaced or something. Can you recommend anything?

Hi borg,
You posted similar in another thread.......please follow what I have said and check the link.......
You will NOT have problems.....
I have tested both win98se and winME upto 1.5Gb Mem and no problems!!! Gaming is super fast!!!
Have also used RAMDISK software......but had problems under win2K and NT......so not advised...
Win98 has yet to be beat AS the best gaming Platform yet!!!! I say though Doom under DOS 6.22 is better than Doom under Win 95, 98, etc....
Del

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