875p NEO-LSR SATA RAID problems

Just got a machine build today. Every so often the Intel SATA Raid bios reports one of the drives are missing. (Same drive everytime i think) If I press Ctrl+Alt+Del it shows back up and I can continue booting windows. I have bios v1.6. It seems to happen when I let the machin sit idle for a while then reboot. If I reboot as soon as I get into windows it will not reproduce. It has happened about 4 time now.
Specs
P4 3.0c
Corsaird TwinX LL PC3200 (2x256MB)
Gigabyte R9800 Pro 128MB
2 Seagate SATA 160GB Drives
350W Antec PSU
Aopen CDRW/DVD
WinXP Pro SP1

Update.
I tried the drives in my IC7 and the problem went away. I swapped power supplies (used the enermax from my IC7 system) and the problem still occurred. Is there anything else I can try before I request an RMA?
Thanks, Justin

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Just upgraded my Chassis and motherboard and am having some problems.
My Western Digital HD is having boot problems but I saw in another thread to set it to CS...so I will try that when I get home.
My DDR333 memory shows up as DDR266.
It takes REALLY long to finish POST.
W2K takes a REALLY long time to boot.
My on board network card seems to have stopped working. It shows a connection to the network(and for some reason when that icon appears on the taskbar my screen blanks for a split second) but the IP address is the 169.blah.blah.blah number that NIC's default to when they can't get an IP address from the DHCP server. It worked initially but at some point in the reboots, it stopped. I have removed/reinstalled it with no luck. On boot, I see it has the same IRQ(10) as the USB controllers but in W2K it has IRQ 20?
I can't overclock diddly poo without the computer crashing. The new chassis is a coolermaster with like 4 or 5 fans in it and a 400 watt PS.
Here's a brief rundown of my hardware
P4 2.2
2x512 DDR333
MSI Nvidia Geforce4 4400 Ti
30 GB Western Digital HD
Old timey Creative Labs DVD-ROM
2x 3-port 1384 cards w/various things attached

More updates.
I installed my NIC and I got the network back. I hooked them both up to the router and magically the integrated NIC got an IP but still didn't work. Oh well...DISABLED
I am still trying to figure out how all my PCI components are using IRQ's higher than 16.
I have noticed that CoreCenter causes my sound to take a dump. Once it runs, whenever a sound is supposed to be played, you hear static and some kind of transmision...like a strange tv station's audio. At the same time the computer SLOWSSSSsssss DOWWWWWwwwwnnnn. I disable sound and it runs no problem. So I re-enabled sound and took it out of my startup group and everything is fine.
Downgraded my BIOS to 1.0 and wow...the frequency menu in the bios appears! But if I change any of the settings, the computer won't get through POST. So I change to 1.21...the new beta driver. Not only does it not see my 333 ram like it was supposed to...apparently it isn't APCI compliant and W2K won't boot. So back to 1.2.
So here is a summary of my status so far...
I can't overclock even tho I have sufficient cooling - :(
I can't use my on board NIC - :(
My 333 RAM is being detected as 266(but should be fixed soon) - :/

875P Neo-LSR Setup problems

I posted this message last night but I think it got lost in space.
My System
MSI 875P Neo LSR
Intel 2.4C with H/T
2 X 512 Infineon memory sticks
Enermax 350W P/S
ATI AIW 8500DV
Seagate S ATA 120 H/D Partition with 85/35 partitions on SER1
Western Digital P ATA 80 H/D on IDE 1
LG 52 X CD ROM on IDE 2 primary
LG DVD/CDRW Combo IDE 2 slave
19 Samsung Syncmaster
I am having problems with my new 875P LSR. Installed O/S and software using FAT 32 and it wiped on 2 occasions. Could not boot up trying all the sugestions on the web. Using Partition MAgic rescue disk I could still see the drives and was able to check for errors but when I used my old 98 boot disk C: came up with a message of invalid media but D: was still readable? During both the previous setups I used the F6 option and loaded the Intel raid XP driver for ICHR, was this the reason for my loss of system.
On my third try I used the same partitions but did not use the F6 option and also formatted in NFTS (by accident). Everything appeard to be working so far BUT!!!!!. I don't want the system to do over clocking I just want a secure setup for stability in normal use. I do not play games, I use the inter4net, edit my home movies and normal word processing,
Questions
What am I doing wrong?
What should the cofigreration for the bios onboard ID chip be. I have Mine set in Native mode, P ATA + S ATA, NO, NO, Both, S ATA 1st channel, S ATA PO1 PO2 Raid NO
Do I need to use the Intel IAA driver -or- does XP have drivers -or- do I have to download some other driver or controler for the S ATA.
Can anyone suggest a better layout for my system and how can I tel if the computer is operating with the proper drivers for S ATA, P ATA, H/T and all the other gagets on board. Any suggestions and advise will be appreciated
Swan705 in Ontario Canada

Hi back
Thanks again for the response, followed your instructions now I show a 82801eb under the controler section. Is that all I needed? Another question I like to keep a copy of windows 98 se on my other drive and would like to use the F11 key to boot to it. Is there a procedure of installing it so I don't screw up my XP system. I use a disk tray to keep the drive in so I can take it out for safety as I also store backups of my personel files on it. Your sugestions are really appreciated. Swan705

Where to find M.A.T. in BIOS of a 875P Neo LSR?

Hi y'all!
Currently I'm using:
P4 3.0GHz 800MHz FSB
2*512MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 CL2
MSI 875P Neo LSR (BIOS v1.6)
I'm wondering where I can enable P.A.T. or MSI's M.A.T.?
After reading something about BIOS version 1.6 enabling M.A.T. , I flashed from 1.2 to 1.6.
But where can I find this new option in my BIOS??
Thank's :]
Best regards,
Arjan

Okay... Okay... This is generally for MSI, no reason to take offence.. anyone. Or maybe just the guy who never used computer(apparently) but designed BIOS for this board.
I Have NEO FISR2 motherboard, and the problems I have seem to be something like people here have.
PAT isn't enabled if you overclock. What ever you do, Ultra Turbo or turbo.. nothing helps. Is there a reson for this?
If I drop memory to 333 and raise FSB, should the numbers in BIOS at memory speed show what it actually is, never have done so... And if I raise FSB and memory speed is at 400MHz why isn't PAT enabled, memory isn't overclocked?
If I try to change manually setting for memory, like cas etc... Should it do something, or are these there just for fun, so you could IMAGINE the effects on your board.
Almost all memory related settings are in BIOS for some other reason than adjusting setting on this motherboard, they don't affect anything. At least not for me. Maybe I was wrong thinking this board could be user for overclocking, those volt settings propably are there for show too. Nothing to do with overclocking, because you will never get everything out from this board. At least not if BIOS is working like this.
I did simple test, raised volt for memory to 2.90. Whopee. Raised FSB to 230, and left the memory setting at 400MHz. Changed by hand Cas setting to more relaxed ones.
Quess, which changes of these actually did something? FSB and Volts. For some unbelievably stupid reason board changes automatically both CAS(VERY RELAXED) settings and memory setting. Try Sandra, see for yourself.
Please, let me know if I'm doing something wrong, this is new board and new BIOS, maybe I'm missing something...
OR this is the most lamest try I have ever seen to put out decent BIOS. Nothing makes sense, thank you very much for wasting hours and hours of my time while I was trying to figure out why everything didn't work like I expexted, after all, there where so many "pretty buttons to press" that did nothing.
ARGH! X(

MSI 875P Neo LSR Dead??

Hi y'all,
Saturday 12th of juli I've bought some components:
- Intel P4 3.0GHz 800MHz FSB
- MSI 875P Neo LSR
- 2*512MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 CL2
- Hercules 3D Prophet 9800 Pro
- Iiyama Vision Master Pro 413
After installing the whole bunch, I tried to boot the system but nothing happend!
So I waited for about 5 min. and booted again. This time almost succesfull but..... the only parts that were working are my fans (casefans, cpu-fan and the Northbridge-fan).
The powerswitch wasn't working (and it was installed correctly). I had to power the system via the powerswitch on my powersupply. So my guess was that my mobo was dead!
After returning the mobo back to my retailler, they concluded that it was dead indeed, so the gave me another mobo.
So after installing the new board, I tried to boot again, but still no succes so far.
My retailer tested the board again and it was also dead.
Some symptoms:
- Active fans
- No HDD, floppy and DVD-player/Burner activity
- Blank screen (display in standby)
- Instant power on when I turn the switch on on my powersupply
I've tried different videocards, memory modules and clearing the C-MOS, bur nothing seems to help ;(
Can you please help me out????
Thanks
Best regards,
Arjan

With regard to the motherboard stand-offs, motherboards dont always use the same amount or in the same position (the stand-offs are movable -either bending out of brackets in the case or unscrewing)
Always check ALL the standoffs line-up with screw positions for your moterboard before fitting, a wrongly positioned post can short-out PCB traces/pins
Another easily overlooked item is the square 4 pin 12v connector (older type power supplys dont even have one), the 12v power connector is located by the northbrige/AGP socket (the CPU will not start without this fitted)
Sometimes when physicaly altering a computer the reset or power-on (start) switchs dont line up correctly with their buttons -this can cause the switch to be permanently "on"
The power-on switch will cause the computer to "cycle" (constant restarting) and the reset switch will cause the computer to hang with-out initialising -try removing the reset switch connector from the motherboard
If none of those are the problem i would suggest trying a different power supply -or maybe your dealer could check the one you are using at the moment

Overclocking an MSI 875P Neo-LSR Bios 2.2

Here is my configuration :
CPU : Intel Pentium IV 3.2C 800Mhz HT
RAM : 1Gb [2x256MB DDR-400 PC3200 Infineon] + [2x256MB DDR-400 PC3200 Kingston]
GC : Club 3D Radeon 9700
MB : MSI 875P Neo-LSR Bios 2.2
HDD : 120 Gb Maxtor 8Mb cache + 40 Gb Western Digital 2 Mb cache
CPU Fan : Zalman CNPS-7000AlCu
Yesterday i tried to use CoreCenter and went to 215MHz (3.6 Ghz i think) with no hitch.
Now my question is with this configuration what can i reach and what to use (CoreCenter or Bios) ?
And which OC for the memory ??
Tx

I think use bios is better because of more flexibility. You can go up to about 3.5GHz.
please read:
Overclocking Guide

Replaceing NB fan with heatsink (875P Neo-LSR)

I'd like people's opinion on wether or not you think a Zalman ZM-NB32J North Bridge Heatsink will be enough to replace the NB fan on an MSI 875P Neo-LSR. I would hate to damage the board.

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Originally posted by Oddish
Just so I don't sound like a smurf: I meant to replace "loud" with "noisy" in my previous message, not keep both words. Hmmm... I wonder why MSI is afraid to let people edit their messages.
I have been using MSI boards for a year or so now and the northbridge hsf unit has yet to disapoint me. Do not bother replacing the NB HSF unless it does indeed fail as you will lose your warranty if you replace it.
Scott

MSI 875P NEO LSR versus Corsair TWINX

HI,
I'm about to purchase the following parts:
Mainboard: MSI 875P NEO LSR
Memory: 2 sets of Corsair TWINX 1024PC3200LL (2*512MB).
Is this mainboard capable of handeling 4 modules of the above memory?
I've also seen modules from GeIL, are they any good?
The module i've seen are: GeIL PC3200 Ultra.
I want to run my memory at the following timings: 2-2-2-5T
I believe Corsair is capable of that, but I'm not 100% sure if GeIL is. Atleast my retailer told me so.......
Can you please help me on this one? ;(
Regards,
Arjan

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My Corsair TWINX 3200LL runs fine with 2-2-2-5-8 settings at 400 mhz
Ok, that's good to know
But do you know if the MSI 865 or 875 mainboard can handle Corsair TWINX 1024PC3200LL (2*512MB)? Because it's not mentioned in the memory.pdf file.......
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It may, or it may not, it just depends, running all 4 modules seems to make it harder to run at tighter timings.
Ok, so to achieve tighter timings, i'd better use 2 modules of Corsair TWINX 1024PC3200LL (2*512MB).
It's not cheap by the way..... it costs €375,- here in Holland. So that's why I want to know this memory ''thing''.

MSI 875P Neo-LSR

I have a MSI 875P Neo-LSR. I installed Windows XP sp1 and everything in my computer. All of a sudden it doesn't recognize my CD-ROM Drive. It doesn't let me eject the drive. I see the CD-ROM Drive in the bios, but not in Windows. What could be wrong? I also have the keyboard controller light in the USB indicator bracket light up sometimes I reboot the computer and it locks up.
Motherboard:   MSI 875P Neo-LSR
Memory:   1GB Corsair DDR-400 Dual Channel
Video Card:   ATI 9700 Pro 128MB
PSU:      Antec TRUE550 550watts
AMI® BIOS:   1.3

Goto safe mode and delete the driver. Sometimes when you install SP1 it duplicates the drivers instead of updating them. Once you delete the driver restart into normal and it will reinstall the new driver for the cdrom.

MSI 875P Neo-LSR & Northbridge Cooler

Hi
Hi have a MSI 875P Neo-LSR motherboard and the northbridge cooler is making alot of noise!
I've already cleaned the dust from the fan, added some oil but it stills makes an anoying noise
My question is this:
I don't want to spend €€€ in a new cooler because i'm upgrading my system in a few months so, will my motherboard survive without the cooler? But remaining with the heatsink...
I have a Thermalright XP120 with an 120mm fan in my CPU, which are very close to the northbridge, they might fresh a little the NB... And i got a good airflow in my case...
My MB:

Thank you for your answers!
Do you know the maximum temperature that the NB can get? Or the normal one...
I want to test if it's not getting to hot without the fan

875P Neo FIS2R DRAMM / Boot Problems

After having significant difficulties with my new machine
I thought it may be helpful to others to know how I fixed the Mother Board problems. I have the following configuration:
875P Neo-FISR
P4 3.02 GHz 478P 800fsb
Two Geil PC 3200 400MHz 500mb DDR’s at positions 1 & 3
( CAS 2 6-3-3 1T; 2.6-2.9 V)
Two Seagate 120 Gb 7200rpm SATA drives on Promise Raid 0
Generic Cd Reader
Pioneer DVD Writer DVRA05
ATI 9700 Pro
Aquarius Liquid Cooler
Enermax Fan Monitor
( Addictions are bad )
Open all the boxes and put everything together. Boots up once and then starts active unstable.
Clear the CMOS and then it fails to post at all.
No monitor at all.
Looking at this web site I thought that putting the Aquarius Fan on the SFAN 1 slot may not be playing with CoreCell Chip well. Switched to the Enermax and it boots. Remains very unstable. Reading an email here I changed the DDR voltage to 2.7. System stable but I can’t get the Promise RAID to engage.
Looked at another email ( Thanks Mr. K. Keenan)
and set the BIOS as follows:
Frequency / Voltage Control:
CPU Ratio Selection: Locked
Dram Frequency : AUTO
Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
Adj. CPU BUS Clock: 230
DDR Clock: 460
Adj. AGP/PCI Clock: 67.1/33.50
CPU Vcore Adjust: YES
CPU Vcore: 1.5750V
DDR Power Voltage: 2.70 ( KK suggested 2.65)
AGP Power Voltage : 1.75
Everything stabilized.
Start adjusting the Promise RAID settings (following M. Johnson’s advice)
as follows in the BIOS:
ON CHIP IDE Configuration
ON Chip ATA Operate Mode: Native Mode
ATA Configuration : S-ATA Only
P-ATA Keep Enabled : YES
P-ATA Channel Select : BOTH
S-ATA Ports Definition: PO-1st/P1-2nd
Configure S-ATA as Raid : YES
Back to
INTEGRATED PHERIPHERALS
ONBOARD Promise IDE: as RAID
Run Windows 2000 prof and it finds the array but can’t format ( ???)
Tried formating with Millenium Boot disk ( Bad move).
Windows ME won’t let Win 2000 boot.
Clear CMOS and then the system dies.
Spent days trying to get at least the monitor to fire with no luck.
Reread web site and picked up on the Low Latency Memory issues noted
in a note ( Thanks Mr. K. Keenan again). Put in some Kingston cas2.5
333 DDR’s at 1 & 3 positions.
Fires up immediately.
Windows 2000 boots and loads. Totally stable.
Never to be one that leaves well enough alone…
Set the BIOS under
ADVANCED CHIP FEATURES as follows:
Under dram Timing Setting:
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD : Disabled
Cas Latency: 2
RAS # Precharge 3
RAS # to CAS# Delay: 3
Precharge Delay: 6
Burst Length : 8
AGP Aperture Size: 128 MB
Shut down and replaced the 1GB ( 2 x 500) Geil DDR 400’s.
Rock stable and faster.
Evidently when you clear the CMOS, the board resets
the DDR Power Voltage to 2.50 which is too low for
some of the faster DDR SDRAM’s. Unless you put
slower chips in you can’t adjust the bios to a higher voltage.
I would love to know why MSI did that.
Hope this trail helps somebody else.
Best RBC

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Originally posted by Undergrid
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Evidently when you clear the CMOS, the board resets
the DDR Power Voltage to 2.50 which is too low for
some of the faster DDR SDRAM’s. Unless you put
slower chips in you can’t adjust the bios to a higher voltage.
I would love to know why MSI did that.
Simply, when you use the jumpers to reset the BIOS all the settings, including the voltages, get reset to the default. The default power setting for RAM is 2.5v, and I would assume that its difficult to find RAM that doesn't run at that voltage at least well enough to get into the BIOS. What use would the jumper reset be if it only selectivly reset settings?
Hi all,
The system will reset the performance to Slow and the DDR ram timing to default by just 4 unsuccessful boot up.
Meaning just press reset button for about 4 times and the system will boot with the default setting for the performance and RAM Timing.
So I do not need to do jumper reseting or open the CPU casing.
Cheers.

875P NEO-FIS2R - ICH5R Raid 0 options

I have a Raid 0 configuration with dual Raptor drives on a 875P NEO-FIS2R . I was wondering if people have suggestions of what options I should have enabled through the bios (rev 1.8). Since the options don't mean much to me I played with the setting till the Raid option was enabled in the bios screen.
There are setting like Native vrs Legacy, SAT/PAT/SAT+PAT, and various channels.
Any help would be apprieciated, but best of all would be a website where the options are explained.
-Fazle

Native
SATA Only
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PATA Both channels enabled
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HI! i'm the one wih the raid problem on a k8n neo2....
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HI there, my IBM MCS 7815 server does not boot when i enable SATA raid in BIOS. The documentation recommends to turn it on but when i do i get a STOP error at OS startup. Does anybody know how to solve this?
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my hard drives are WD 120 GB 7200rpms SATA - sold my mobo asus A7N8X - Delux and used my bros mobo above but just cant get them to work if ne one has ne idea on how to fix it (bios is still factory default do i have too flash it to get it too work etc)
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