875P Neo, R controller, performance ?

I have a MB MSI 875P NeoFIS2R and I want install two S-ATA hard drives (WD-Raptor) in RAID 0 - Strip. I want to get the best performance. Is better to instal drives to the Promise controler or Intel ICH5R? I am not sure if Promise controler use S-ATA drives in strip in maximum data stream. (Because it also can works with ATA 133 drives)
Thanks in advance to more experienced user than is me.
Mark

A file smaller than the stripe size will not benefit from RAID0 since it will all be written to a single drive.
On the other hand you want as less stripes per file as possible.
So if your files are pretty large set the stripe size as high as possible, if you need the RAID to benefit smaller files as well set it lower.
If all you care about is the speed of these large photo files then set it high, but you might want to go with something in between like 64K.

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Probems with msi 875p neo Fis2r and network controller driver

Hi guys just wondering if anyone could help me with my msi 875p neo FIS2R and problems with the network controller driver/network card.
I'm running xp on a computer my nextdoor neighbour gave me. I got it working fine with service pack 3 installed but then installed a bunch of windows updates last night and the computer would switch itself off before windows could start. Now I reinstalled xp and unfortunately it does not recognise the network controller/card at all now. I tried installing the intel network controller drivers but it stopped because it said no intel adapter/card was installed/present. Could anyone please help with suggestions? I tried running everest and under newtwork it doesnt list intel network adapters but I'm pretty certain it is. Again any suggestions?
--------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]
Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
Motherboard Name MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R (MS-6758) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Canterwood i875P
System Memory 1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (10/11/04)
Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 238464 MB (200326 MB free)
--------[ DMI ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ BIOS ]
BIOS Properties:
Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Version V2.4
Release Date 10/11/2004
Size 512 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, AGP, USB
[ System ]
System Properties:
Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INC.
Product MS-6758
Version 00C
Serial Number 00000000
Wake-Up Type Modem Ring
[ Motherboard ]
Motherboard Properties:
Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INC.
Product MS-6758
Version 00C
Serial Number 00000000
[ Processors / Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Processor ]
Processor Properties:
Manufacturer Intel
Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Processor
External Clock 200 MHz
Maximum Clock 4000 MHz
Current Clock 2800 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 3.3 V, 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Socket Designation FC-478
Network adapters:
Direct Parallel 5.1.2535.0
WAN Miniport (IP) 5.1.2535.0
WAN Miniport (IP) - Packet Scheduler Miniport 5.1.2535.0
WAN Miniport (L2TP) 5.1.2535.0
WAN Miniport (PPPOE) 5.1.2535.0
WAN Miniport (PPTP) 5.1.2535.0

Quote from: Jack t.N. on 14-November-09, 08:00:05
Clear CMOS with your PSU unplugged from A/C power. Then load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS and retest.
thanks jimi... jack
will try that and post later if it worked... ive never cleared cmos, this sort of thing is relatively new to me but thanks again

Is the 875P Neo-FIS2R a bad mb?

Like the title says:
Is the 875P Neo-FIS2R a bad motherboad? I can understand that tis is a place where you will find more problems then anything else. But I mostly see motherboard specific problems, that occur on many mb's of the same type. I find that a bit disturbing...
A friend of mine never had any troubles with it, then again, he might not tell me, or he is lucky. But based on his 'good' experience I have a 875P lying here right now.
I cannot use it yet since I am missing a graphic card to go with it, I expect that to arrive next Tuesday. Im a bit nervous now.....
Another question while I'm at it: will both controllers (the Intel and the Promise) work, or are the mutual exclusive. So I guess I mean is: do I have 3 P-ATA connectors on my mb or either 2 or 1??
If it is the latter option, that would be lame, then I would have to insert my PCI card with a pomise controller....

I have to say the 875P is definitely NOT a bad motherboard as long as you have approved components. It works very well for "standard" usage. It has all of the top features from Intel - 875P chipset, 10Gbit CSA, ICH5R, ADI audio, firewire, etc.
I am concerned with some things MSI could/should have done better in the first place:
1. Wrong NB temp (and it seems to be affected by NBFAN)
2. No SFAN speed monitoring though it wouldn't have cost more to put it in ... X(
3. Slow frequency of BIOS release or update fixes vs other "top tier" motherboard manufacturers
4. More issues than others with popular memory modules
5. Confusing or "poorly documented" BIOS features/interface leave tweakers less in control
6. Corecell, DOT & MAT, BIOS are still a work in progress
When you start looking for topnotch performance and stability via tweaking OR major overclocking - that is where it falls short - contrary to what their marketing says.
Read this thread where an 875P owner compares his new Asus P4C800E Deluxe (after his 875P Neo failed and had to go for RMA). I summarize his "review" here:
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Criteria on MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R vs ASUS P4C800E DeLuxe
Ease in setting up P4C800E
Memory compatibility P4C800E
Overclocking
- setting options Neo
- higher performance P4C800E
- lower temperatures P4C800E
- lower voltages P4C800E
Video card compatibility Neo
Hard drive performance Same
Benchmark scores Est. 5% better on Asus vs MSI
Extra Goodies:
ASUS - ability to use USB ARMD devices and emulate them as floppies, HDD, and even CD-ROM
MSI - AUTO overclocking (Captain, etc. on the Neo boards - 5%, 10% etc on the Asus boards) works much better
quote:
... the Asus is much less of a problem child when setting up. So my final ruling is, don't expect much more from the ASUS board, but if you are fed up with your 875P Neo, or are returning/RMA-ing your board anyway, you might be pleasantly surprised with what the ASUS P4C800/E/Deluxe can do for you.
I think you'll find similiar comparisons from 865PE Neo2 users who had tried the P4P800...
So far many have said they're still keeping their MSI boards when RMA comes back
Conclusions:
- Good HW but FW/SW satsifactory~needs_improvement. :]
- If you don't do major tweaking , and want stability + full features, the 875P is a GOOD board overall, IMHO. 8)

First Impressions of 875P Neo FSI2R

Hello All, first off i'd like to make some comments about this board.
My Abit IC7-G needed to be returned, so i did a little research on a replacement as the aforementioned board has its quirks, ( Only wished i'd found these forums before i'd purchased. ) so i decided on the 875P Neo FSI2R as it was the closest to my previous setup.
Now this board is really pissing me off , doesnt MSI have any quality control ?
1. How can my WD Raptors work fine on the ABIT board using ICH5R , but the MSI have these damn problems ?
2. The voltages are far from stable , i set 1.60 in bios and it varies from 1.52 - 1.62
3. I hope the person responsible for the IDE LED not working on SATA has been taken out and dealt with (THIS IS JUST LAZINESS ON MSI's PART)
4. this board is much slower than the IC7-G
5. Its a real shame , i cant use this board i will really miss those northbridge lights.
6. i have my doubts as to if these problems can be fixed with a bios upgrade so reluctanly i am returning this board for something else ... any suggestions ?
This isnt meant as a flame or to enrage happy Neo owners.
Kind Regards
Amigan.

As far as the problems with the Raptors on the ICH5R I'm afraid I don't have a definitive answer. Only a few ideas that might help. I have had my Seagate 7200.7 drives connected to it as Raid/non-Raid a few times with no problems. Generally unless I'm playing around I keep them on the Promise controller for better performance(no PCI cards).
1. I'm not sure how old your Raptors are but the first bunch are known to have had trouble with some motherboards. If you look under the drive at the IDE-SATA bridge chip there is a number on the chip that has the letters "BxP" in it where x is a number probably below 6. Apparently the B3P's and below cause problems in many cases and the B4P's in less cases as well. B5P and up is supposed to be good. There is no fix that I'm aware of. At the very least I would run the WD drive diagnose utility to check for problems.
2. Make sure the cables are properly secured and not overly bent. No hard 90 degree angles with serial cables.
3. Perhaps a conflict with other devices. Make sure the "APIC...IRQ" setting is enabled in the Bios to free up more IRQ's in XP. You can also disable serial ports in the Bios (super I/O config I think) for more IRQ's if you're not using them.
4. Raid driver problem. Check the version of the Intel Raid Bios and make sure the drivers used are same or newer. They might have used an old version on the floppy that came with motherboard.
It sounds like you know what you're doing but try scrolling through the Intel portion of the Raid Guide and see if you missed anything. If you're going to try configuring the Raid again, why not enable Raid in the Bios and install Raid drivers during the Windows install but only on 1 drive. Run with 1 drive for a while and see if the corruption occurs. If not, migrate to Raid0 with the second drive as described in the Raid guide. Sometimes just installing something in a different way will solve an unidentified problem.
Sorry I can't come up with something more definite. I just haven't experienced anything like the problem you're having. You're not booting 2 different OS's from that drive are you?

875p-Neo Chipset is not detected

Went to install Intel Application Accelerator RAID Edition 3.5. where this becomes interetsing is that it says the hardware is incompatable. and this software is not compatable on this chipset. Now seeing as im using the 875p chipset and it is supported i deciedt to download and run the chipset ID tool from intel. Got the message from it saying all components could not be identified. futhermore using information on intels website. I tried to use device mang to manually ID my chipset(i know its 875p).
According to intel I should see Intel(R) 82875 Processor to I/O Controller - 257E under system devices if my OS is correctly decting my chipset. ITS NOT THERE. I tried to download and reinstall the chipset software with no luck. Anyone have the same problem or better yet know of a way to fix this?

From what ive read on these forums device manager only detects 82801ER with the RAID software installed
If like me you have the LSR version you cant use RAID ...its strange though because my southbridge chip is marked as 82801ER and the American website states:-
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[size=15]875P NEO-LSR [/SIZE]
High Performance P4 Platform with FSB800 + Dual Channel DDR Memory Supported
• Supports Socket 478 for Intel® Pentium 4 Processors
• Intel® Canterwood 875P Chipset
• Support 800/533MHz Intel NetBurst Micro-Architecture Bus
• Support Dual Channel DDR 400*/333/266 Memory
• Support four 184-pin DDR DIMM sockets up to 4GB
• 5 PCI, 8X AGP, USB 2.0, 6 Channel Audio
• Serial ATA Raid, 10/100 LAN, MSI Corecell chip ]
From here:-
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/chipset.asp?chipset=intel_875p
Ive allready contributed to a number of threads on this matter and nothing ever gets resolved
Please Moderators ask MSI to clarify this ...and amend their misleading website (if needed)

[875P Neo Series] 875P NEO FIS2R - Bootup delay with disk attached to Promise RAID

Hi,
I have a problem with my 875P NEO FIS2R mobo. I just added a 400GB SATA RAID-0 array to the Promise controller and now I get a 50 second bootup delay after the BIOS has run through everything and beeped and before the first WinXP splash screen.
I boot up from a 160GB SATA RAID-0 array on the intel ICH5R controller. Both arrays work fine from within Windows. I have two DVD drives on the ICH5R PATA connection but nothing else on the Promise.
If I disable the Promise controller in BIOS the delay goes away.
I have tried disabling SMART, turning off the quick-boot option with no effect.
When I first installed my system I tested performance with booting from a single SATA drive on ICH5R vs Promise and I noticed the same issue, but didn't care then because I only needed one disk so I just kept Promise disabled in BIOS.
Any ideas how I can get around this?
Regards,
Jonathan

Sorry I have been a away for a few days.
Details requested...
Quote from: redeyedog on 21-June-05, 05:50:27
If the Promise controller was out of the picture (Disabled), and you have the SCSI adaptor and its devices setup:
1. What is the adaptor's SCSI ID?
7
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2. List devices, position in the chain and their corresponding SCSI ID's.
#7 Adaptec 2930CU card
#4 Nikon Coolscan LS30 scanner
#3 Umax Astra 1220S scanner
#5 Iomega ZIP 100 drive
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3. What type of terminination are you using?
Adaptec card has auto-termination.
ZIP drive has a termination connector attached.
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4. Are the devices in the chain functioning properly?
Yes.
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I agree that your problem is your SCSI controller. There may not be anything actually wrong with it. The 2930 was an agressive controller card and its BIOS simply may not coexist with your motherboard's BIOS optimally. Even with the BIOS disabled, it may be competing with the motherboard's request for handlers.
You may want to check to see if there is a BIOS update on Adaptec's website. Adaptec usually released 1 or 2 updates for each SCSI generation they produced. It may or may not help but we need to make sure you have the latest BIOS released.
Unfortunately, this card cannot be reflashed.
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At any rate, I think you have found the component which is responsible for the delay. I'm willing to assist in diagnosing the issue but I need you to provide the specific information I'm requesting.
Also, try to do a CTRL-Pause to catch exactly what the BIOS version is and any other information which is showing up with the BIOS disabled. The SCSI adaptor BIOS, in fact, should not be enabled in your SCSI configuration as you have described thus far.
Adaptec AHA 2930CU SCSI BIOS v1.34.1.
There seems to be a difference between BIOS and host adapter BIOS. You always get the BIOS screen, but you can disable the host adapter BIOS if it is not required.
I am pretty sure it is not the SCSI chain that is wonr because the pause happens with nothing connected to the card.
Jonathan

875P Neo-L Boot fail, mixed D-LED errs.

Hello all pros :D.
I'll start this off with the basics, my system specs:
MSI 875P Neo-L (BIOS 1.6)
Pentium 4 3Ghz HT CPU (Frequency locked)
Zalman CNPS7000-AL CU cpu cooler (Artic Silver thermal grease)
TwinMOS 512 MB PC3200 CL2.5 (2.5-3-3-8/auto) memory
IBM DeskStar 75GXP IDE ATA100 HDD (attached to primary channel, master)
Asus GeForce 4 Ti4800SE AGP 8X 128 MB DDR graphics card
460W LePont/SuperFlower ATX P4-certified PSU
Dual PAPST 12DBa 80MM case fans (intake & exhaust)
Fong Kai FK-603 Midi-tower ATX case
Keytronic standard Swedish-layout PS/2 keyboard
Microsoft Intellimouse explorer 3.0 optical USB
Windows XP SP1 Pro English
Generic floppy drive
I've used the following BIOS settings in my tests:
Fail safe defaults and Optimized defaults
- Tried to enable/disable: FDD Controller, HT, onboard LAN, with no effect on the problem. Other settings follows (different also tried): slow memory settings, 2.60-70V memory voltage, 128 MB AGP arperture size. All others standard.
BIOS 1.6 runs the best, 1.7 has the same effect as all the other lower revs. The problem persists in 1.8 but also decreases system performance noticeably.
The actual problem:
The system refuses to boot up. In 40 cases the system boots once.
The D-LED's signals either a keyboard controller init msg or AGP init msg, randomly.
In the cases where the system does not boot, it does not either light the case front panel's power LED or signal any HDD activity (drive gets spun up due to poweron, etc).
The system does not beep in any way when it refuses to boot correctly.
I've tried changing the PSU for a enermax 430W one with no effect (voltages were ok with both), tried changed memory for some TwinMOS-winbond with no effect, tried changing graphics card for a MSI GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP with no effect, tried to boot without HDD attached with no effect, tried to use other PS/2 mouse and keyboard and without both without any effect, verified clock battery to be fully functional (tried with brand new battery also), removed and also replaced floppy drive with no effect, had machine unplugged for over 120 minutes without bios battery for total reset with no effect, tried to boot machine without AGP card at all - no error beep/change in D-LED info or likewise effect, tried to boot machine without RAM at all - no error beep/change in D-LED info or likewise effect.
When the machine is operating CPU temperatures are within normal ranges (43-53 C) and the CPU does not throttle down the speed.
Typical error flowscheme:
System running -> I shut it down or choose reboot -> System powers down and fails to powerup with one of the above D-LED infos.
->
I have to hold down power for 3-4 secs for the system to poweroff, then turn it on again and repeat 15-75 times until system boots up.
->
BIOS settings checksum fails, press F1 and go into the bios to typically raise memory voltage and AGP arperture size.
->
Machine shuts down when choosing save and fails to powerup.
->
I have to hold down power for 3-4 secs for the system to poweroff, then turn it on again and repeat 15-75 times until system boots up. System runs fine until I have to do step one again.
As you can guess this is becoming something of a problem.
I got the motherboard & CPU from MSI via DHL delivery when I won a web-contest they had for the board when it was new so I have to send it all the way to Taiwan to RMA it according to my local MSI dealer (which would take 3-7 weeks and cost several hundred in postage with a secure delivery firm like DHL). As the computer is my bread and butter literally as I'm a student, this is not a good choice.
As you can read above I've narrowed it down to be either the CPU or Motherboard with a 99.99% assurance, and I'm kind of betting it is the motherboard.
So does anyone here have an idea what to do? I've read over 15 threads about this board and tried random suggested stuff for all kinds of problems with no effect to my situation.
Any help at all would be greatly appriciated.
Henric Blomgren

I emailed MSI's support now once again with the same message I included in the top (and went through the autoresponder-resent procedure), no answer yet but we'll see if they get back to me this time. Otherwise I'm starting to doubt if I will ever get it sorted =/
If so, is the Neo2 boards with the 865PE chipsets more or less as good, as I won't be able to afford one of those 875P Neo boards to replace my current one?
/Henric

Problem with S-ATA optical drive(MSI 875P Neo)

Ahoy MSIers,
I am in a most dire situation, and before I go to spend money on some computer-tech guy to solve my problem, I thought maybe you could help me.
*My PC specs:
Intel Pentium 4 Northwood C 2800Mhz
MSI 875P Neo
A-DATA 512Mb RAM DDR 400 * 2(1024)
PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro
Western Digital Hard Drive 80Gb 8Mb buffer P-ATA
Pioneer DVR-212D S-ATA (The main issue here)
Bios - AMIBIOS - VERSION 3.31a
Windows XP Pro - SP2
Until 2 days ago I owned an MSI CD(P-ATA) burner which was virtually dead.
2 days ago, It died completely, So I decided that I will not just replace a CD burner for a CD burner... no! I will buy myself a new shiny DVD burner!
So I bought myself a Pioneer DVR-212D(S-ATA) and I went on with installing it.
I plugged the Serial Power Cable from the PSU to the drive, and connected the drive and the S-ATA port on my M-Board with a serial-ata cable.
I booted up, and found that the device was nowhere to be found although power is being transferred to it(the drive opens and closes when pressing it's eject button).
I searched the net and found that I was supposed to "enable" S-ATA in my BIOS.
Tried that, yet every setting I tried besides the default setting gives makes the computer freeze for a few minutes at the MSI logo and then a "friendly" error massage appears, usually it's something like
"4th master drive ATAPI incompatible" ( the number changes, I haven't got a clue why).
Searched the net a bit more and found almost nothing... most s-ata "problems" were about booting from a s-ata hard drive....
I am getting desperate, So in order to maximize the chances of me getting help solving this issue, I took a few pictures of the BIOS and the inside of my case... maybe it will help, I dunno.
Here are some pics:
The S-ATA cable connected to the Mother-Board
Back of the DVD burner with the S-ATA cable attached
BIOS - standard CMOS features
BIOS - Integrated Peripherals
On-Chip IDE configuration
P.S
I have a DVD ROM(Toshiba, nothing special) and I would of course occasionally like to burn Dvds/Cd's from my DVD ROM to my DVD burner. However, seeing as the DVD burner is S-ATA, there is no physical connection what so ever between the two drives(unlike in P-ATA connection where each cable has 3 "connections", 2 for drives(hard or optical) and one for the Motherboard) I really don't know how I can "achieve" this.

A friend of my father's, whose occupation is a computer technician toke a look at the PC and bios settings today.
WE tried EVERYTHING and It still wouldn't work so we concluded that the problem is probably in the hardware.
There were two possible "suspects" here - The Mother Board(specificially the S-ATA controller/ports on it) or the drive itself.
We connected the drive to my sister's computer and it worked like a charm.
So the answer was clear - something was wrong with the board.
I replaced my S-ATA drive for an IDE drive, and all is well.
Well
that's the end of that story

875P NEO - Strange problem with SATA non RAID on Promise 20378

Hello,
After replacing an IDE harddisk suddenly my S-ATA drive connected to the Promise 387 controller can not be found anymore.
When booting it says: No devices found, BIOS not installed. I got the the advice to disable S-ATA in the BIOS, but then no S-ATA drive will work ofcourse.
So here is my situation:
- MSI 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0) mainboard with A6758 BIOS version
BIOS settings:
Integrated Peripherals:
- On board Promise IDE = as S-ATA
On Chip IDE configuration:
- P-ATA only
- S-ATA keep enabled = NO (wouldn't know what this means)
- P-ATA channel selection = Both (if set otherwise it will not recognize the second IDE
controller, strange!)
- S-ATA ports defintion: P0-4th/ P1-3rd (standard setting)
- Config as RAID = NO
Also I have the Promise 1.0.1.29 drivers installed within XP, I know that MSI says 378_55 is the latest, but when installing a clean XP these drivers did not work at all, so I installed the old ones.Within XP it is recognized btw as being a "WinXP Promise SATA378 IDE controller"
What I am wondering now is:
Is it true the Promise controll controls the 3rd IDE controller as well as the S-ATA HDD? And if so can someone please tell what would be the correct settings in the BIOS when having 2 IDE HDD's connnected to the third IDE controller and 1 S-ATA disk on the Promise controller? Because the strange thing only 1 IDE HDD is recognized by XP, the other IDE HDD and S-ATA not.
Ok, I hope I was a little bit clear, I'm really desperate , so I hope you can help me out !!

Not sure what the problem is.
Like I said, all the settings in Integrated Peripherals>>On-Chip IDE Config should only affect the Intel controller(IDE1&2,Serial1&2)
The only interaction you have with the Promise controller(IDE3,Serial3&4) is through Integrated Peripherals>>Promise Controller(As SATA, As Raid, Disabled). You can also select a drive connected to the Promise as a boot device from Bios>>Advanced Features>>Boot Device Select.
I would take a step back and start over a little more slowly.
My assumption so far is that you have WinXP installed on a drive on the Intel controller and that it is booting/functioning properly.
You are trying to install 2 IDE and 1 SATA drives on the Promise controller.
1- In Device Manager, right-click on the Promise 378 controller and select uninstall. If you know for sure that the "Raid Consolel SCSI Processor Device" is from a driver you installed for the Promise controller, uninstall that too. Otherwise leave it alone.
2- Shutdown/Unplug power and disconnect all 3 drives from the Promise controller.
3- Plugin power/Boot to the Bios and set the Promise controller to "disabled". Also make sure Intel "On-Chip IDE Config" menu "Config SATA As Raid" option is set to "NO"
4- Save and reboot to WinXP. There should be no Bios errors and the Promise entries in Device Manager should be gone.
5- Shutdown/Unplug Power and reconnect 1 drive(the SATA to Serial3 for simplicity) Power + data cables!
6- Plugin power/boot to Bios and set Promise controller to "As SATA"
7- Save and reboot. You should see the drive name briefly after the initial post screen if you've disabled the MSI splash screen.
8- WinXP should say something about finding a new SCSI device. If not just see if it's in Device manager and right-click>>"Install Drivers" and point it to the driver folder from before and install the "WinXP Promise SATA378 (tm) IDE Controller Driver". Not the Fastrack ones for raid.
9- Now after another reboot if the SATA drive isn't visible from Windows Explorer, try the diskmgmt.msc utility again.
10- If all this works, try adding 1 of the IDE drives by shutting down again, installing the HDD and checking the Disk Manager. If the drives are already partitioned/formatted you wouldn't need to use Disk Manager. Repeat with the 3rd drive.
If this doesn't work, let me know which step you got to and the problem encountered.

Sata Help... 875P Neo

Hello
Hope someone can help me.
Im trying to install my 3 Hard Disc, All Sata drives
i have a 875P Neo Fis2r..
i have 1 drive on Ser1 and Ser2, but im trying to install my 3 to ser3.. But bio is not detecting it.
Here is my BIOS setup:
Integrated peripherals:
USB Controller – enabled
USB Legacy – disabled
On-board Chip IDE – Legacy mode
S-ATA Only
SATA keep enabled - no
PATA keep enabled – yes
PATA channel – Both
Combined mode – SATA 1st channel
SATA ports – PO-1st/Pi- 2nd
Configure RAID – no
CSA Gigibit – auto
Onboard 1394 – enabled
Promise – as SATA
AC’97 – auto
Ser1 is my Os,
How do I get the 3rd drive without using raid..
Ser 1 - 120 Western Digital JD
Ser 2 - 200 Western Digital JD
Ser 3 - 320 Western Digital JD
Thank you

Quote from: vango44 on 16-April-06, 21:49:20
In Windows you need to install the Promise USATA drivers from the MSI CD that came with your motherboard.
Then from Windows Disk Management you need to initialize/format the disk.
I am having the same exact problem right now. MSI has a CD but with a bunch of programs, no drivers
Drivers on A disk included are G72-PRSA060
Promise 376/378 Driver and the ICH one
What are "USATA" drivers..?
Plus, my Sata drive already has sata on it. I don't want to format it, just want to attach it and get data,
Again, this is single SATA on Ser 3, not a Raid config using ser 3 and 4
thanks.

Need help with msi 875p neo

i just bought one of these and set up my system, but as soon as i flick the power switch on the psu there is a 2 sec delay then it automaticaly boots up without me pushing anything then it just hangs..nothing no boot screen nothing. i check that d brakect thing and it says "Inializing keyboard controller" it stays there and does not change.
my system spec:
msi 875P Neo-FIS2R
intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz 800MHz Fsb
2 x 256 mb pc-3200 OCZ EL-DDR cas 2 @ DDR400
thermal take spark 7
leadtek winfast A280leTD 'Geforce 4 Ti 4200'
WD raptor 36.7 GB SATA 1
Xaser III casing
Thermaltake Purepower 480W
MS intellieye Explorer
plz help me i find no reason for it no to work

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Originally posted by MaKoMaN
thaks for all ur help i found the problem one of my memory sticks had a scratch the other one works fine.. but now what do i do with the scratched one?
did you make the scratch? if not, you got warranty on it that would get you a new one...

875P neos fis2r IDE 3 Question

I have a raid 0 setup on the promise SER3 and SER4 connectors=sata
I also have a normal IDE 80 gig that I use for internal music and such. It is alone, no slave with it.
It was connected to IDE1, but it is soo crammed in there that I decided to move i down below by the SER 3 and SER 4.
My cdrom and dvd are master slave on IDE2.
So, when I boot up, my 80 gig on IDE3 is not detected, nor shows up in disk manager.
How to get it to "notice" it?
I also have an external esata 500 gig on ser1.
Any Suggestions?

Thanks for responding Leekh
the mobo 875p neo fis2r has 3 ides. 1 and 2 are next to eachother, then the floppy A next to those.
side by side. IDE 3 is down below-(yellow) next to ser3 ser 4 1st generation sata connetors.
I Have cdrom/dvd as /master slave on IDE1,
I moved my 80 gig-xtra drive to IDE 3.-because it was a crammed fir in IDE2.
my OS is setup on c drive raid 0 with 2x150 gigs via the ser3and ser4 mentioned above.
to better clarifysee page 2-18 of the manual
IDE1 blue IDE 2 white
here is a pic IDE3 is yellow,
to clarify my whole system.
my os is on raid0 on the connectors below the yellow. I have one esata 500 gig connected to the bottom orange, ABOVE the yellow. the other one is unoccupied.
I switched an internal HD from IDE2, to IDE3 (yellow above)-and I cannot get it detected for some reason. I do not know if it is a bios config or not, I go in there,look for 2 secs, and wanna runaway crying to my mommy.
I copy and paste a review part here.
" Like all motherboards with an 875P/ICH5(R) chipset combination, there are two Serial ATA connectors located next to the ICH5 South Bridge (ICH5R in the 875P Neo-FIS2R's case). As you may or may not already know, this new South Bridge controls both SATA connectors and in fact allows a stream of 266MB/s of data instead of the slower, PCI bus constrained 133MB/s which can get awfully clogged with having to attend to other needy components. Read through our 875P chipset review to understand the benefits of placing the Serial ATA controller in the South Bridge as opposed to a separate PCI Serial ATA controller.
" We are very pleased to see that the 875P Neo-FIS2R contains exceptional IDE/Serial ATA drive support. As is always the case there are two standard IDE connectors, dubbed the Primary and Secondary IDE connectors, which support two channels each or up to four IDE drives total.
The 875P Neo-FIS2R's Promise PDC20378 controller powers the third IDE controller on this motherboard, and is capable of supporting exactly two IDE drives. This same Promise PDC20378 controller also powers two Serial ATA connectors in addition to the two ICH5-bound Serial ATA connectors. You'll be able to connect one drive to each of the four SATA connectors powered by the ICH5 and Promise SATA connectors. So in total, you'll be able to connect four SATA and six IDE drives to this motherboard, which equals a grand total of ten possible drives that can be connected to this motherboard. As we said in our ASUS P4C800 Deluxe review, most desktop users will find this feature to be nice instead of necessary; but there will always be those who desire this capability for something a little more potent than desktop usage. "
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=1820&p=2

Anyone using CORSAIR 3200C2PT with 875P Neo ?

Has anyone been using a pair of CORSAIR TWINX CMX256A-3200C2PT Memory modules with an 875P Neo FiS2R motherboard?
How they work ?
Did they needed any change in BIOS to work or they were plug in and play ?
Thanks for info !

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Originally posted by Jonathanvandyke
DO NOT GET THE COSAIR! Terrible for theses boards... dosnt run in Ultra turbo or turbo.... if you get Kingston 3500 HyperX its 250$(30$ less) and runs at 2-3-3-5-8 CL at ultra trubo.... They do work at slow... which is pat disabled... but why settle for less perfomace at more cost
Thank you for all replis.
So CORSAIR is not a good and reliable Brand ?
I thought it was considered one of the best but by what you are saying I get the impression that it's memory is not as reliable as others'.......
Anyone else having experiences with this particular memory and their 875P Neo FiS2R motherboard ?
What do you exactly mean that CORSAIR does not run in Turbo or Ultra Turbo ? Just this particularly modules I got or NO Corsair whatsoever will be able to perform in Turbo or Ultra Turbo and under no conditions can do any PAT ?

875p neo tweaking and overclocking help needed

Hi all,
Ive had this set up for a few years but never once tweaked the bios for performance and now is the time
System as follows,
875p neo / amibios 3.3
P4 3.0ghz / 512 / 800
2 gb corsair 1 gb crucial ram
Radeon (his) x850 pro agp 256 gddr3
OCZ powerstream 520
4 system fans
2 x 80 gb wd sata
Ive just swapped the ram around to try and get dual working and decided to get the hoover out as well, good job I did because the cpu heatsink had a great wad of dust on the underside and maybe that explains the 70 degree temperatures and system slowing down.
What im looking for is advice on how to get the best out of the cpu / ram / agp card and want to overclock as high as poss without melting the cpu.
Any tips would be great,
Mick

Ok, the combo of all 4 sticks has started causing instability so ive now removed the crucial 2 x 512 and left with the corsair as 1gb in dimm 1 and 1gb in dimm 3. Im happy to stick with this but cannot adjust the bios to make use of the ram's very fast timings of 2,3,3,6 - if I do anything other than auto spd the system crashes, this is a bit of a let down because the options are there in front of me and this new ram cost me a lot of money. I am a little unsure with the ram timings in bios as there are 5 timings and I only have 4 timing specs from the corsair website, the 5th timing in bios is dram burst length and I dont know what I should set this too ?
Yes I believe I have a northwood and I can now try ddr volt at 2.7 and 2.75, this option is now available after removing the other sticks.
If anyone can suggest a way of getting the best out of these 2 sticks I would really appreciate it.
Cheers

875P Neo-FIS2R & ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro

Newbie here, just not to computers...
would like some help in diagnosing a problem on my NEW PC//all parts are brand new w/ 1st boot being yesterday//components listed below
875P Neo-FIS2R
P4 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB//cooled Turbotake Spark 7+
1GB Samsung PC3200 - 512MB a stick in DIMM 1 & 3//cooled Turbotake Memory Cooling Kit 40mm Fan
2 - Maxtor 120GB - Striped on Promise Controller on mobo
Allied AL-B500E 500 Watts
Fans out the ying/yang//stays very cool//does sound like an airplane taking off though
My problem is since the first time on boot ithe boot screen, BIOS setup, Windows Startup screen and not quite as bad the Windows environment, the display is messed up//in POST it shows as black squares about every 1/2" all over the screen//Windows shows them, only smaller//now because this is happening during POST makes me not beleive it is the drivers//I have DL the latest from ATI//cannot find a firmware upgrade for the card//updated the mobo BIOS to v1.8//tried 2 different OS's//Win98SE & XP Pro//changed and tweaked the settings in BIOS all w/ NO JOY!!!//at this point I am getting a little upset//I really am hoping that I did not get a bum video card//I would have tried another one but I do not have one that will install in the new mobo
Anybody got any ideas or experienced the same problem?... TIA
hardRESET

You guys are great on the fast responses!
DOS, I did try the memory removal and that did not work. The sound card is in my signature but is still sitting on the bench waiting installation, so that is not the an issue. I did, however open my old box and checked it's AGP card and it is a Matrox 400 Dual Head. I put it in and tested it and it works great, well not great, but it does not have the display issues that the AIW did. My question is, do you think it is the mobo that cannot support the latest release from ATI? Or maybe just a bad card?
medafor, I had already tried that as well. But thanks for the response!

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