[875P Neo] Random crashes

I got various problems with
875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0)
1G Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ASUS 8420 (or 8240 don't really remember now) Ti4200
Creative SBLive! Value - need it because of gaming port.
All have latest drivers. The system runs at "setup defaults" all the performance related stuff set to "slow", no overclocking either. I've also noticed if I disable Hyper Threading the errors come out twice as fast.
win98 problems: I experience strange "out of memory errors" when running mechwarrior 4 mercenaries over internet (connected to the DLink LAN router). It crashes randomly after 4 - 10 minutes of the game. At some stage I got to a point when I could play for about 1 hour straight without crashes. I zipped that windows configuration and decided to try different video drivers, since then it fails every time.
w2k problems: random crashes occured couple of times:
I was doing windows file search on both network and local drive, at some point it's just rebooted without warning.
Second crash was when I was running antivirus software: heavy access to FAT partition. Though it's not the virus since the rest of the drives show no viruses.
I'm trying to find some decent overall testing utilities so I can reproduce the problem 100% and get it replaced or something. Can you recommend anything?

Hi borg,
You posted similar in another thread.......please follow what I have said and check the link.......  
You will NOT have problems.....
I have tested both win98se and winME upto 1.5Gb Mem and no problems!!! Gaming is super fast!!!  
Have also used RAMDISK software......but had problems under win2K and NT......so not advised...
Win98 has yet to be beat AS the best gaming Platform yet!!!! I say though Doom under DOS 6.22 is better than Doom under Win 95, 98, etc....
Del  

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