8800 Ultra OC - Symptoms of an unpowered power supply?

I have an 8800 ultra OC and am experiencing some issues. I am attempting to determine the cause and one of the stick posts says to not under estimate the importance of the power supply.
I upgraded to an Antec trupower trio 650 W thinking that should be sufficient. However, looking at the specs, it looks like the Amps might not be enough (+3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@19A,+12V2@19A,+12V3@19A,- [email protected],[email protected] ).
The probelms I am seeing is some textures drop on occasion, leaving big blocks of black. Other times it is less severe with checkerboarding on certain textures. It also got to the point where my machine would lock up all together.
I know it is not heat as I have the side of the case removed and a fan blowng directly on the card. Using Riva Tuner, I never see temps over 75C.
So, could it be the PS not quite putting out enough juice? The card? Driver? Something else?
Thanks!

Sorry, was in a hurry to post and jumped the gun.
Here are the specs on my system:
# CPU brand, model and speed: Intel Core 2 Quad @2.4 GHz (Q6600)
# Motherboard model: Asus Basswood 3G
# Memory brand, type/speed, size, number of sticks: 2x 1 GB PC 5300 @667, 2x 512mb PC 5300 @667
# Video card brand, chipset type, memory size: MSI 8800 Ultra OC
# Hard drive(s) brand, size, type, speed: 2x Western Digital 320 gb Raid 0
# Any other peripheral cards and devices: Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1600 NTSC/ATSC Combo
# Operating system and version: Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit
# Power Supply Unit brand and output in watts and DC output (amps): Antec trupower trio 650 W (+3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@19A,+12V2@19A,+12V3@19A,- [email protected],[email protected] )
Do you use latest VGA drivers from Nvidia? Yes, I am running the 163.75 drivers posted on November 6th (nvidia.com)
Where the issue comes? It is particularly bad in Gears of War. Halo 2 also expereinces issues. There is no particular pattern I can see for when it happens.
Have you connected both power cables to the VGA? Yes
Yes can be PSU problem, what is max combined amperes @ +12V? I am not sure where to find this information. Here are the specs:
Spec
Type ATX12V
Maximum Power 650W
Fans 1 x 120mm low noise cooling fan
PFC Active
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails 3 x +12V
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support nVIDIA SLI certified
Modular Cabling Support No
Efficiency Up to 85%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Input Voltage 100 - 240 V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 10 A
Output +3.3@24A,+5V@24A,+12V1@19A,+12V2@19A,+12V3@19A,- [email protected],[email protected]
MTBF >80,000 Hours
Also forgot to mention I have no issues just running non graphic programs (word, IE, etc). It only happens when running games.

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http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=ST&f=26&t=36798&st=0#entry221554
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=110912
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Hey guys,
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