890FXA-GD70 issues

Sorry if this gets long. I put my system together last week and have had all kinds of problems. First it wouldn't post. I tried some different configurations with the RAM and was able to install windows, but it crashed a couple of times through the install. Once Windows was up it would give me different BSOD at random times. The BIOS would freeze. I ran memtest84 and it found all sorts of errors. I thought for sure it was the RAM. I took the RAM to work and popped it into a Dell we had there and it ran fine and passed memtest. I was like ok, it's the motherboard. I took the RAM from the Dell to try in my system. I first tried one stick in DIMM1 and no POST. I moved the stick to DIMM2 and it started right up. I ran it stably for an hour and then tried popping the second stick in DIMM1. It ran stably again for another hour. I put both of my sticks in the machine and it worked. I ran burnin test overnight and it survived. Did more testing the next day. All seemed well. I reinstalled Windows, games, etc. Still haven't got the timings correct, but at least it's running now without crashing or so I thought. I got 4 or 5 solid days and then boom another BSOD.
I got two more little issues with the setup. The power LED would stay lit even after a shutdown, remove power cable and reinsert power cable. It worked fine the previous 2 days. I pulled the LED connector, flipped it around, nope, it was in there right. Removed the little MSI easy cable connect block and it started working again. The next day, it was back to it's old ways. The next problem (probably nothing). I noticed that after shutting down, my router lights for the computer would turn amber (meaning 10mbps connection). I've never seen this before, maybe the new MB has some feature on it.
Finally, this leads me to the MSI contronl center and AMD OverDrive. I went to use them today and they both crashed. WOW! I'm going crazy over this build. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the MSI CC and Overdrive. CC worked once and then got the error. The AMD overdrive has worked the 5 or 6 times I opened it. I found another forum with the same problem. Did I make a mistake going with MSI or am I unlucky? Considering an RMA for a different board - maybe a different brand.
Here is my setup:
AMD 1055t
MSI 890FXA-GD70 - flashed BIOS to 1.6 early on to try to fix RAM issues (didn't help)
ADATA 2x2gb DDR3 1600
Nvidia GTS 250 on loan from a friend until I select a card
Antec True Power 750w
WD caviar Black 750
Lancool PC-K62
Zalman CNPS10X Performa

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MSI 890FXA-GD70 issues

Hi all,
I recently received my MSI 890FXA-GD70 and am having a few problems.
Firstly if I enable C1E in the bios the computer reboots as soon as it enters windows(short glimpse of desktop). This occurs in safemode aswell.
I have tried many different combinations of disabling turbo core and cool&quiet etc but it made no difference.
This occurs on stock settings even when loading defaults in bios.
Secondly I have Apacer Giant II 2x 2GB DDR3 240-Pin DIMM, 1.65V [PC17600].
This ram can apparently run 2200MHz with 10-10-10-30 2T timings.
If I overclock slightly and set the RAM ratio to highest ratio then the system will not post and normally requires me using the cmos reset jumper. The ram speed is normally around 1900MHz at the overclock I desire. I have the above timings in place and have set the DRAM voltage to 1.65V
From what I can tell the motherboard is supposed to be able to run 2133MHz.
If I simply lower the multiplier so that the ram is running close to 1333MHz no issues.
Am I doing something wrong when it comes to running the ram at higher clock speeds?
I read somewhere that I should increase the CPU-NB voltage. I set this to one below red and I currently have the ram running at 1712MHz with 10-10-10-29 1T.
I am not sure what is safe here, but I do have pretty good flow in my case.
It seems that increasing this voltage must be necessary, but I would like someone elses opinion if possible.
Thanks for any help in advamce
System specs:
MSI 890FXA-GD70 Bios 1.6
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Apacer Giant II 2x 2GB DDR3 240-Pin DIMM, 1.65V [PC17600]
MSI 8800GT OC 512Mb
Huntkey 600W PSU
Corsair H50 in push pull config
CM Storm case

Haha thx for that. Rookie mistake...
For all the other timings I was just pressing enter and changing it like that.
As for the C1E thing, even when its stock standard doesn't seem to work. It doesn't really bother me though.
Seems like the cool and quiet is clocking down the cpu anyway.
Is there anyway to test the turbo core easily, seems sort of random when it decides it will activate it.
I tried running prime on only 2 cores but it splits the load over all 6.
Any ideas of the ram speed. It should be able to run at least 1800+.
Any specific voltages I should increase?
Also when overclocking I have disabled the cpu phase control and left the ddr phase on, as I am not adding any extra voltage to the ram.
Not sure if this is correct, but if I clock to 4GHz with 1.377V then ControlCenter reports about 240W when under full load with Prime.
Thanks

Re: 890FXA-GD70 issues / split

I am having some really odd things too and Ive just finished putting it all together (my 3rd). Just used the 890GXA for a sm form factor as well, that went fairly easy. Now, Im going for a nice gaming rig and its one thing (little stuff) after another and Im wishing i had gone w/the ASUS Crosshair. Heres my situation. I removed my used psu from my 2007 rig w/a duo core 2 e6600 and an EVGA i680 mobo. I figured at 850 watts and only 3 yrs old, should be fine. Ive got a lot of new tech w/this mobo as you can see in my sig, Im wondering if PSU or the RAM is giving some problems. I havent even tried any PCI cards yet and Im going to guess further problems from what i read in some of the posts as Ive got an XFX 9800 gtx+, Blk Edition graphic card. Thats another post later on however. Right now, Im just trying to get the thing to pass a smoke test. (No monitor hooked up, no USB or peripherals) I see the mobo lite up w/2 phase lites in upper R-corner and I see a red one go off down by one of the connectors. I had initially mounted the PSU upside down as its a case w/bottom mount for PSU but the lites showed juice to mobo and the red diode lit up for back of psu, the fan even twirled ltely halfway 1x then just the tiny diodes lit in blue on mobo, no further action. I thought, great! First I played w/psu and reversed it to blow out the bottom like its supposed to and I hoped this simple thing might cure it. I then thought, Ive got some really powerful RAM here, maybe its too much for the boards default setting so I plucked 1 ou of 3 out and left 2 in to far left towards the cpu. Same thing happened, I plucked out 1 more for just 1 stick of RAM, same thing, I swapped out w/an OCZ with same 1600 mhz v.1.65 speeds (which does work in the smaller build i also just completed w/MSI 890-GXM-G65. I know this was designed for the Intel cpu's but it defaults at 1033 mhz (o havent set timings yet on 1st build) and it booted up and allowed me to install WIN7 Pro fine. This second build is a whole other animal. I also have considered that if its not the PSU, RAM compatibility its the way one of the front header cables is hooked up on the MSI Easy Connector. There wasnt one in the other mobo but thought it was a nice feature in this one. Theres always a green/wht cable w/a 3rd pin that according to the diagram doesnt get used/aligned and I dont understand if im reading it wrong or if its right. At this point Im going to have an IT pal come eyeball the cables as I know if done wrong this would also cause for things not to whir up. Im not seeing lites on top of case either which could be an indicator. I checked all (-) + connections however for LED's and Power and things seem right. Could it be the older PSU. I may try to switch it out w/an ePower 1000w modular psu i got a deal on at Newegg.

Thanks for all the great info on RAM and 64-bit OS. I gotta admit with this build i went hog-wild, LOL. I play RPG games and have tried some of the shooters but my God how many times can you get shot to death and then reload. My games are many of the popular ones which seem to command about 80 GB a pc to install. Im a former newsphotographer with at least 1,000 photos and I will be doing some video editing for fun in future so I am one of those adults who do more than surf and word process who just need a 500 gb HDD, 32-bit system and 4 GB of RAM. However, I could have gone 32-bit on this one and maybe i should have. I will learn more as i use this version and see its abilities in to the future. I can say running WIN7 has been wonderful for those contemplating a chg from XP, I was quite nervous about switching but its lean and very intuitive to work with. Im still learning about the 890 FX chipset and i have to say ive never heard such a quiet machine! Seriously. I came over from WIN XP 32-bit and EVGA 680i and an Intel e6600 cpu. Oh yah, one last quest concerning my graphic card-i wanted to hold off on buying another for a bit and have an XFX 9800 GTX+ Blk Edition. Im saving for a 5850 in future. I read somewhere (w/no detail here however) that AMD mobo's dont like nVidia 9800 GTX+ cards. My experience is that even by downloading the most current driver from nVidia, the 890 FX chipset and WIN7 is saying that the mobo mfg doesnt have enough info to configure the card. (i didnt download nVidia software because i plan to upgrade to an ATI card in the coming year). Monitor is working fine but yellow exclamation in Hardware Mgt re: the 9800 gtx. Drivers are showing up properly. Any info on using 1-nVidia card on this new mobo? An IT pal of mine said it wouldnt make a difference as long as i wasnt using 2 in SLI. thanks again for all your info on OS 32-bit vs 64-bit and Intel spec'd RAM.

IMPORTANT Technical Information RE: 890FXA-GD70 - BIOS/Memory/Boot-UP Issues

I have been having the same problem (see my post...user 'n9nu') as many others have and I have been researching this problem for a month now and come across a few important pages on other web-sites that address this very problem. While I have not read over 100 percent of them completely, they all pertain specifically to these situations with several users being able to resolve their issue(s) with the following sources. Several of the posts mention the instability with a few of the BIOS versions (1.8 and 1.9), so read up on these as well.
TROUBLESHOOTING THE MSI 890FXA-GD70 BIOS, STARTUP AND MEMORY ERRORS/ISSUES
My currently installed BIOS: Version 1.9
Motherboard hardware revision: Version 1.1
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1066 8GB Kit
GPU: nVidia 590 Reference GPU
Overclock.net
http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/724846-official-msi-890fx-890gx-890g-club.html - 'Official' 890FXA-GD70 Users Club (No affiliation with MSI)
http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/770915-i-toasted-my-msi-890fx-gd70.html - Gee....a specific club for those who own dead 890's
Tom's Hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309538-31-solved-890fxa-gd70-debug-code-load-edit-bios - BIOS FF Errors
TechArena
http://forums.techarena.in/overclocking-computer-modification/1401757.htm - FF BIOS Issues
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1402256.htm - BIOS & Start-up issues
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1401777.htm - Pre-Purchase Information
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1411672.htm - Memory/BIOS Issues
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1401689.htm - FF Errors after upgrading BIOS
NCIX Forums
http://forum.ncixus.com/forums/?mode=showthread&forum=116&threadid=2282823&pagenumber=0&msgcount=0&subpage=1 - BIOS Code 'FF' & Cycling errors (re-starting)
Computerforum
http://www.computerforum.com/179382-msi-mobo-help.html - More BIOS 'FF' issues
The above references are just several posts that discuss and in some cases alleviate problems with this motherboard. Upon trying one of the more popular methods to attempt a boot-up, I successfully booted in BIOS bypassing that rude 'FF' BIOS code....however the happiness was short lived as I configured some settings in the BIOS and when I restart was presented with the FF again.
The method I used was to place one (1) stick of DDR3 memory in memory slot 4 (the furthest away from the processor) and was kinda surprised that it worked....and while happy, I didn't hold my breath.
I have BIOS version 1.9 currently installed and have been noticing many problems with that particular release, so I will be attempting to re-flash the BIOS to either 1.7 to bypass some of the other issues being reported or try version 1.8 again. I will keep on posting when I receive further information or come across a sure fix for this (a user oriented fix that is)...otherwise, it is going back for another RMA.
I am working with someone that I know that tricks out BIOS code in order to enhance/unlock/fix them and he is presently looking at it using the exact same hardware that I am to try and find out just what the exact issue(s) are and how to resolve them. This, of course, has nothing to do with MSI, but rather an attempt by someone who programs these for a living just to see whats what.
Tim
ARS N9NU

After spending 12-14 hours on the problem i can now safely give a detailed report of the problem
Disregard what i said before as they were just symptoms of another problem
It boots 100% stable if DIMM slots 1 2 and 3 are empty
it does not matter the make or model of the ram in slot 4 but the system boots and works flawlessly.
I ran extensive tests with prime 95 and memory tests. It works flawlessly in this configuration.
As soon as a stick of ram goes into any other slot either singular or dual channel the board does a rapid boot cycle
this constant power on and off if left too long corrupts the bios settings
bios setting problem is rectified by putting one stick of ram into dimm 4 and letting it reset itself in a stable enviorment
also while the system is stable i used the MSI software to check all the voltages and everything appeared normal
However
if i make the system boot with standard memory configuration such as one in DIMM 1 or 1+2 i get odd voltage readings
(extremely unstable if im lucky enough to get it to boot)
the NB voltage quickly fluctuates between 1.15 and 1.7+ every min or so like if there are micro spikes in voltage
While this happens the 2 lights next to the slots indicating i believe the dram power phase blink
But
When i only put a ram stick into DIMM 4 only one light for the powerphase is lit and it is stable
So this so far is not a corrupt BIOS chip to me but rather a symptom of another problem
I have another CPU coming in the mail tommorow I will test it out along with a few other boards
a 1090T
2 890fxa-gd70's and some others
If i have a hardware problem it will surely be singled out
I will find out what the problem is with this board and post my result.
If anyone has any suggestions to make this board work please comment

MSI 890FXA-GD70 and 3Ware 9750-4i BIOS issues

This is my second build with this motherboard. This post is just to help anyone who might be trying to get similar hardware combinations to work.
The BIOS revision is 1.7, which was the revision the board came with.
When running with a 3Ware 9750-4i board you will find that the 3Ware BIOS will complain about not being able to install. At first it was complaining about the motherboard BIS not providing enough RAM to live in, but after I set the on-board SATA controller to AHCI is stopped complaining and just didn't show up at all.
Now, don't be discouraged if you aren't booting from the 3Ware controller, because this won't stop it from working. When the OS loads the driver, everything is fine.
I suspect it would also work if you completely disabled the on-board controller, but that wasn't an option for me. I wanted to run three additional HDs and two optical drives on that controller, as well as the four drives on the 3Ware.
I kept experimenting with slot positions for the cards, but nothing produced a change at all.
Finally I spent time in the OS trying to make the AHCI drivers for the on-board controller work with connect/disconnect. There appeared no way in Win7 x64 to get any AHCI drivers to load but the default Microsoft ones, which don't support hot-swap or even connect/disconnect.
It appeared to me that the only AHCI drivers supplied by AMD or MSI specifically work only when the controller is in RAID mode. So I tried setting the controller to RAID mode in the BIOS, and discovered that it now played nice with the 3Ware BIOS. Now I am going to reinstall Windows 7 with the 3Ware drivers and select a 3Ware drive to boot from, to see if I can get the AMD or MSI-supplied drivers to work with the on-board controller. I suspect I will get all the features promised then. If I don't, I will return here and report the results.

I completed the new install of Win7 - this time with the 3ware controller as the primary, and the on-board SATA set to RAID.
First, I had to load drivers for the on-board RAID during the install, just to let the install continue. Then I had to load drivers to tell Win7 about the drive where I wanted to install. I thought it would ask for both up front, but it wouldn't take both - it only wanted the drivers for the controller to which the DVD was connected. THEN, after it was ready to ask for a location for the install, it let me put the 3ware drivers up.
Once the system was loaded, I was disappointed to find that none of the on-board RAID drives showed up in the add/remove dialog, but I was able to use a utility to make them work with hot-swapping. It is called Hotswap!
http://mt-naka.com/hotswap/index_enu.htm
and it allowed me to connect/disconnect drives plugged into the on-board controller housed in the Thermaltake MAX-2533.
With the settings like that, the BIOS issues disappear, with both the on-board RAID and the 3ware co-existing nicely. This indicates to me that there is likely something wrong with the standard AHCI BIOS-related screen that makes the 3ware controller unhappy. I doubt the 3ware is the only BIOS-installing card to feel that way, so if you have your drives set to AHCI, but have issues with any other cards, you might look into setting the drives to RAID or to IDE (though you lose some features like NCQ)
I also forgot to mention that I also have a four-port PCI-Express NIC from Intel in the system, so I have updated the system summary below:
MSI 890FXA-GD70 | AMD Phenom II X6 1090T | ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B | CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B | HIS Silence H557HR1G Radeon HD 5570 | Antec Solo Black case | Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 | 3ware LSI00216 (9750-4i) | Intel PRO/1000 PT Quad Port NIC | Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS (x7) | Thermaltake MAX-2533 | Plextor PX-L890SA | Plextor PX-B940SA-11

MSI 890FXA-GD70 temperatures issue

I carefully read those topics where there are problems with the motherboard specified, to find an answer to my problems but were not advertised until now.
These are:
A. JMicron controller temperature is very high, very hot to the touch (I use an ATA100 HDD WDC);
Two. any USB storage temperature is very high since its introduction in USB ports.
I mention that I had these problems right from the start.
However, I managed some good results enough Ock (CPUz @ 3900 MHz FSB @ 296MHz) to realize that my motherboard properly respond to tasks.
If the first problem concerns me in terms of overclocking that I am going to apply it (although tensions on the controller are not affected directly), the second issue is worrying because I have never met before on other boards.
My configuration is on MSI benchtable :
CPU: AMD Sempron 140 (or Athlon X2 4400 after ock) with Thermaltake Frio
MB: MSI 890FXA-GD70, latest BIOS (v1.13)
RAM: ADATA 1600G 4GB @ 1333MHz, CL 9-9-9-24
HDD: WDC 80GB ATA 100
GPU: Asus 2400 Pro
PSU: Codegen 400W.
Thank you.

Quote from: Jack on 23-February-12, 00:28:18
Mh, the only way electric devices can warm up is because they are supplied with power (Voltage x amperage). Amperage is nothing the board can control. The devices will pretty much suck what they need to work. So, basically, you need to measure the USB output voltage on the board side with a volt/multimeter to find out if anything unusual comes up.
The board can't "heat up" the devices any other way.
he is right! without exact heat levels its not possible from just saying something is getting hot to determin if something is wrong without actual data of any kind (heat or there power draw).
it might be that the other system you tested the devices on couldnt supply enougth ampage to the devices so the usb devices in question would just bottleneck there speed staying very cool as its running slower! usb 3.0 devices tend to pull more then an old style usb2.0 device but pull a lower ampage by restricting there speed to funcion without erroring data in a lower ampage port!
the heat may just be a byproduct of running at there native speed with no ristrictions placed on them! without a comparable system capable of loading the device at its maximum load it can draw its hard to say for sure if anything is wrong at all (just doesnt sound normal if your other system is capable of pushing maximum load into them)!

890FXA-GD70-Not Posting and Memory Issues

Purchased new 890FXA-GD70 board over the weekend and I am having problems after new build. Board will not post with 2 stick of Corsair DDR3 4GB PC1600 in slots 1 and 2. I removed one stick in slot 2 and board posted. I installed all drivers and Win 7 pro and added the second stick into slot 2 and will not post again. I moved the 2GB stick to slot 3 and the computer boots and seems to run fine. Should'nt DDR3 be run in slots 1 and 2?
System
CPU-AMD Phenom II x4 945
Motherboard-890FXA-GD70
Memory-Corsair DDR3 4GB 2 sticks at 2GB each PC1600 Dual
Video Card-EVGA GTS250 512MB
Hard Drives-Western Digital Black Edition 500Gb
OS-Windows 7 Professional
Power Supply-Corsair 750

After checking the boards and google search, it appears that several other people are having the same issue. If the memory sticks are placed in dimm1 and dimm3 the board seems to post and runs fine. But that will not produce dual channel memory. Should I change memory to another brand? What is the best memory for this board. The computer has been running all day and seems to be stable but, just worried that memory is still incorrect and only have 10 days to return to Frys. I have also flashed the bios to 1.6! It appears that after reading several other post on this forum, they had to return the board, could I have a bad board?

890FXA-GD70 BIOS v 1.80 Stability Issues

All,
I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing stability issues on the 890FXA-GD70 with bios v. 1.8
I was not able to Overclock at all with bios v 1.8
CPU = 1090T
DDR3 = G. Skill F3-16000CL7D-4GBFLS
GPU = HIS ATI 4980
PSU = Corsaid AX-1200
SSD = Crucial CT128M225
OS = Win 7 Ultimate 64-Bit SP1
with BIOS v 1.7 I had (And now again still have):
Bclk = 230 * 17.5 = 4.025 GHZ @ CPU Volt = 1.45 v
Memory = 1840 MHZ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.651 v
CPU NB = 2760 MHZ @ 1.30 v
HT Link = 2760 MHZ
with BIOS v 1.7 this was rock solid. However with BIOS v 1.8 not only could I not come close to this at all, I really was unable to OC at all.
In fact when I returned ALL setting to default, then set the DDR V = 1.651 and then enabled OC Genie lite, it wouldn't even boot. It just constantly rebooted for over 40 minutes before I gave up, cleared CMOS and then flashed back to 1.7.
Also, if I've posted this under the wrong section please forgive my ignorance.
Any and all post will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

OK,
I've set up a new thread here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=147110.0
However, to be fair, the problem I'm wondering about is stability/instability as it relates to BIOS v. 1.8 on the 890FXA-GD70.
I was only wondering if anyone else was having similar issues with that version of the BIOS.
I am NOT experiencing issues with the previous BIOS v. 1.7
Thank you.

890FXA-GD70 Raid 0 Signed Driver Issue - Windows 7 Install

Hello everyone,
I am trying to install windows and I have a MSI 890FXA-GD70 that is setup with a functioning RAID 0 configuration. While installing windows 7 I get to the step where you select your hard drive, and it doesn't show up.
So I click "Load Drivers" and select the x64 raid driver I got from MSI. It shows up, then I click next and then the error message comes up: "To continue installation, use the Load Driver option to install 32-bit and signed 64-bit drivers....etc"
I restarted and spammed f8 to get into advance startup options. I selected "Disable digital driver signing"
However that did not fix the problem.
Does anyone have any tips or a solution?

I was hoping someone smarter than I would had replied by now.
Anyway, when I did my raid 0 on my msi 880GMA-E53 I had it set to ACHI then enbled raid and chose raid.
Can't remember the exact issue but my install failed.
Changed it to IDE mode and the install went fine.
MSI tech support said it should be in IDE mode.
Good luck,
Sabbath

890fxa-gd70 16gb ram issue

I just bought 4x4gb corsair vengeance ram and I cannot get the pc to boot. If I only install 2 sticks in dimm1 and dimm3 its fine but nothing when all 4 sticks are in. I tested all the sticks with memtest and they all passed so I know the ram is good. Any suggestions?
AMD 1090t Black Edition 3.6ghz OC
MSI 890fxa-gd70 bios 1.7
Corsair Vengeance 4x4gb 1600
2 XFX 5830 HD in Crossfire
2 120gb Corsair SSD in Raid0
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
1000w Coolmax Power Supply

Tried all the speeds and nothing.
Here is the link to newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233143&cm_re=vengeance-_-20-233-143-_-Product

890FXA-GD70, crossfire cards, and Revodrive configuration issue

I have the MSI 890FXA-GD70 with BIOS v1.8B5 and my Overdrive works fine in Pie slots E-1,3,5,6. The drive does not work in E-4, which is a X4 slot. I have two 5850's in crossfire. According to MCI's manual, if I want both cards to be on x16 speeds, I have to install my video cards in slots E-1 and E-5 with no other cards in E-3 and E6. This leaves me with only the E-4 slot to install my Overdrive in, which does not work. The best I could do is Overdrive in E-1, one video card in E-3 which makes its speed x8, and one video card in E-5 which keeps its x16 speed. Any knowledge on how to achieve x16/x16 for video crossfire and utilize my Overdrive?
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz253/BKBridges08/MSI%20890FXA-GD70%20BIOS%20v1%208B5/Slotconfiguration.png
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz253/BKBridges08/MSI%20890FXA-GD70%20BIOS%20v1%208B5/MainboardLayout.png

It is strange that the RevoDrive is rated as a x4 device but the motherboard bios locks up during posting. You will get a quick flash of the RevoDrive identified as a pair of 55 GB Raid 0 drives, then a black screen with a floating cursor on the upper left corner...that is it. I am sure it could be remedied with a bios patch for that PCIe lane...

890FXA-GD70 Will Not Wake From S3 Sleep

890FXA-GD70 will not wake from S3 sleep; the power comes back on and the fans run but the video never returns and the system hard locks with a POST code of 22 or 24. Other than this issue the system is rock solid.
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Processor
Sapphire 5870 Graphics
Crucial M4 SSD
Corsair DDR3
No overclock
I have reproduced the issue on two 890FXA-GD70s motherboards and I am convinced that this is not a result of a failed motherboard. I also was able to move my fully installed SSD hard drive, processor, memory and graphics card to an Asus 890FX board and successfully wake from S3 sleep proving that my OS and driver installation are working correctly.
I know how to properly set the BIOS as I have installed many 890GXM-G65 motherboards for S3 sleep without issue. The problem seems unique to the 890FXA-GD70.
Is there a fix for this?

I have identified the cause. The "Extra RAID/IDE Controller" must be "Enabled" to use S3; otherwise the system will hang on the wake event. This is true even if the "Extra RAID/IDE Controller" goes unused. The "Extra RAID/IDE Controller" must be set to "Enabled" for S3 sleep to wake.
This would seem to me to be a bug since none of the other MSI boards I have used require the optional IDE controller to be enabled in order for S3 to function properly.

MSI 890FXA-GD70 w/ 2xIntel 510 120GB in RAID 0 on Locks up and BSOD

I am getting hard lockups and BSOD from the following
OS: Win7x64
MB: MSI 890FXA-GD70 w/ latest BIOS
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
HD: 2xIntel SSD 520 120GB SSD RAID 0
VID: ATI FirePro V4800
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
I have swapped power supplies. I have swapped identical RAM. I have swapped video cards. I have used Ultimate Boot CD to run Memtest and other stress tests and everything passes with flying colors. BIOS is loaded with defaults fail safe. RAID array is created using all defaults for a RAID 0. Everything points to SSD firmware or other issues. Maybe RAID 0 with 2 Intel 510's using a AMD SB850 is not supported? Firmware versions on the 510's are both PPG4 which is the latest. Am I doing something wrong? Anyone have any ideas? I am very disappointed that that I can not get my RAID 0 stable. BTW I am doing no overclocking etc. Hardware and errors follow. Thanks!
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 AMD64 Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Loading Dump File [D:\Kingston\BSODDmpFiles\chapmunger\Windows_NT6_BSOD_jcgriff2\031112-15210-01.dmp] Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols Executable search path is: Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (6 procs) Free x64 Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506 Machine Name: Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02c5a000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02e9f670 Debug session time: Sun Mar 11 00:13:13.124 2012 (UTC - 6:00) System Uptime: 0 days 0:04:46.289 Loading Kernel Symbols ....................................... ........................ ....................................... ......................... .............................. Loading User Symbols Loading unloaded module list ....... ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information. BugCheck D1, {fffff88001308c08, 2, 8, fffff88001308c08} Probably caused by : Ntfs.sys ( Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 ) Followup: MachineOwner --------- 4: kd> !analyze -v ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1) An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at an interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This is usually caused by drivers using improper addresses. If kernel debugger is available get stack backtrace. Arguments: Arg1: fffff88001308c08, memory referenced Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL Arg3: 0000000000000008, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation Arg4: fffff88001308c08, address which referenced memory Debugging Details: ------------------ READ_ADDRESS: GetPointerFromAddress: unable to read from fffff80002f09100 fffff88001308c08 CURRENT_IRQL: 2 FAULTING_IP: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT BUGCHECK_STR: 0xD1 PROCESS_NAME: explorer.exe TRAP_FRAME: fffff8800a580fb0 -- (.trap 0xfffff8800a580fb0) NOTE: The trap frame does not contain all registers. Some register values may be zeroed or incorrect. rax=fffff88001308c08 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=fffff8800a581180 rdx=fffff8800a582770 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=0000000000000000 rip=fffff88001308c08 rsp=fffff8800a581148 rbp=fffff8800a581280 r8=fffff8800a581900 r9=fffff8800a581280 r10=fffff8800a582970 r11=fffff8800a5811b8 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000 r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000000 iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe nc Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+0x2bf0: fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp Resetting default scope LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80002cd61e9 to fffff80002cd6c40 FAILED_INSTRUCTION_ADDRESS: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp STACK_TEXT: fffff880`0a580e68 fffff800`02cd61e9 : 00000000`0000000a fffff880`01308c08 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000008 : nt!KeBugCheckEx fffff880`0a580e70 fffff800`02cd4e60 : 00000000`000000e9 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02ce1845 fffff880`01269840 : nt!KiBugCheckDispatch+0x69 fffff880`0a580fb0 fffff880`01308c08 : fffff800`02d02a7c 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`09667000 fffffa80`08c92d01 : nt!KiPageFault+0x260 fffff880`0a581148 fffff800`02d02a7c : 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`09667000 fffffa80`08c92d01 fffffa80`08d1aea0 : Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+0x2bf0 fffff880`0a581150 fffff800`02d024fd : fffff880`01269834 fffff880`0a582770 00000000`00000000 fffff880`01219000 : nt!_C_specific_handler+0x8c fffff880`0a5811c0 fffff800`02d012d5 : fffff880`01269834 fffff880`0a581238 fffff880`0a5820a8 fffff880`01219000 : nt!RtlpExecuteHandlerForException+0xd fffff880`0a5811f0 fffff800`02d12361 : fffff880`0a5820a8 fffff880`0a581900 fffff880`00000000 ffff5fff`ffffffff : nt!RtlDispatchException+0x415 fffff880`0a5818d0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiDispatchException+0x135 STACK_COMMAND: kb FOLLOWUP_IP: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 fffff880`01308c08 55 push rbp SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 3 SYMBOL_NAME: Ntfs! ?? ::NNGAKEGL::`string'+2bf0 FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner MODULE_NAME: Ntfs IMAGE_NAME: Ntfs.sys DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4d79997b FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_Ntfs!_??_::NNGAKEGL::_string_+2bf0 BUCKET_ID: X64_0xD1_CODE_AV_BAD_IP_Ntfs!_??_::NNGAKEGL::_string_+2bf0 Followup: MachineOwner ---------
Loading Dump File [D:\Kingston\BSODDmpFiles\chapmunger\Windows_NT6_BSOD_jcgriff2\031012-22963-01.dmp] Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols Executable search path is: Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (6 procs) Free x64 Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Built by: 7600.16841.amd64fre.win7_gdr.110622-1503 Machine Name: Kernel base = 0xfffff800`0285a000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02a97e70 Debug session time: Sat Mar 10 22:15:14.047 2012 (UTC - 6:00) System Uptime: 0 days 0:02:55.014 Loading Kernel Symbols ....................................... ........................ ....................................... ......................... ............. Loading User Symbols Loading unloaded module list ..... ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information. BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8009348b30, fffffa8009348e10, fffff80002bd2300} Probably caused by : hardware_disk Followup: MachineOwner --------- 3: kd> !analyze -v ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION (f4) A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or been terminated. Several processes and threads are necessary for the operation of the system; when they are terminated (for any reason), the system can no longer function. Arguments: Arg1: 0000000000000003, Process Arg2: fffffa8009348b30, Terminating object Arg3: fffffa8009348e10, Process image file name Arg4: fffff80002bd2300, Explanatory message (ascii) Debugging Details: ------------------ PROCESS_OBJECT: fffffa8009348b30 IMAGE_NAME: hardware_disk DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0 FAULTING_MODULE: 0000000000000000 PROCESS_NAME: csrss.exe EXCEPTION_RECORD: fffff88001ed8b78 -- (.exr 0xfffff88001ed8b78) ExceptionAddress: 0000000077514e8f ExceptionCode: c0000006 (In-page I/O error) ExceptionFlags: 00000000 NumberParameters: 3 Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000 Parameter[1]: 000007fefd47d8a8 Parameter[2]: 00000000c000000e Inpage operation failed at 000007fefd47d8a8, due to I/O error 00000000c000000e EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000006 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The required data was not placed into memory because of an I/O error status of 0x%x. CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT CURRENT_IRQL: 0 ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000006 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The required data was not placed into memory because of an I/O error status of 0x%x. EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000 EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: 000007fefd47d8a8 EXCEPTION_PARAMETER3: 00000000c000000e IO_ERROR: (NTSTATUS) 0xc000000e - A device which does not exist was specified. EXCEPTION_STR: 0xc0000006_c000000e FAULTING_IP: +23a 00000000`77514e8f ?? ??? BUGCHECK_STR: 0xF4_IOERR_C000000E FOLLOWUP_IP: +23a 000007fe`fd47d8a8 ?? ??? FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner MODULE_NAME: hardware_disk STACK_COMMAND: kb FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_IOERR_C000000E_IMAGE_hardware_ disk BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_IOERR_C000000E_IMAGE_hardware_ disk

Thanks for the help! It is appreciated. Power supply is Antec 380W. I have tried swapping out with identical one - both were brand new and I have had pretty good luck with Antec in the past so I kind of doubt that's it. Wish it was so easy! The machine is on a good line interactive UPS as well so power fluctuations are not causing this.
I am using the hardware RAID on the SB850 - it requires loading the latest driver from USB during installation. But prior to that it requires a Ctrl-F and into the RAID setup. I choose RAID 0 and then select both Intel 510 120GB SATA III. The two SSD have the exact same firmware which is the latest per Intel Website.
Drivers are the latest for Win7x64 from here:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/890FXA-GD70.html#/?div=Driver&os=Vista%2064
This problem is posted in two other spots - Intel Forums and Windows Seven Forums
http://communities.intel.com/thread/28220?tstart=0
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/218850-bsod-msi-890fxa-gd70-w-2xintel-ssd-520-120gb-ssd-raid-0-a.html
No one has been able to solve it yet. Seems like MSI and Intel are both good companies but these products are not compatible in the configuration I am attempting.

Booting BIOS from USB doesn't work (890FXA-GD70)

Hi all,
in case of BIOS crash, recent MSI motherboards should be able to boot using a BIOS provided from an USB pendrive. I have tested this function by calling it directly by BIOS option, but it fails after BIOS is loaded getting a blank screen (debug code: 09) or the monitor off (debug code: 31). Does any of you know whether the problem is fixable or any hints? Is it working to you?
890FXA-GD70 (either BIOS 1.0 and 1.6)
Verbarim Store'n' go 4GB USB pendrive (tested with FAT32, FAT16 formats, partitions smaller, bigger... nothing)
BIOS save function doesn't work as well. Some bytes are different comparing the saved file to original one.

Quote from: Svet on 28-October-10, 21:37:53
it's probably m-flash issue, what's current bios version installed?
Yes, you can say: "Flash your BIOS to the last version released some days ago, and retry", but that is the last chance for clear reasons. The problem hasn't been fixed flashing from 1.0 to 1.6, and I guess likely this code with the bug is in non flashable part of BIOS.
I wonder whether Boot 2nd BIOS from USB Drive (or Backup BIOS to USB Drive) is working for someone, it looks impossible it is entirely broken...

Killed two 890fxa-gd70s, my fault or bad luck?

Not sure where to start but I had an MSI 890fxa-gd70 (amd) board for 6 months in which it was overclocked since nearly day one, all good till recently. This past friday the board failed. Durring prime the system shut down, fans and all, and a burning smell came from the northbridge area. Once out of the case it seemed like the choke below the 8pin power connector, or at least VERY close to that area was the source of the smell, NO visual signs at all on either side of the board of anything at all. The top of the choke had maybe 2-3 dots from heat im guessing. Overclock wasnt even "extreme". Just a new setting I wanted to try.
Well I got my rma number monday and picked up the replacement board tuesday and it failed durring prime the SAME way as the last one. This time absolutly no signs, the chokes had no dots. Originally started the computer, basic function tested, rebooted and applied mild OC settings and prime tested, died in less than an hour of total use and I was only maybe 10mins into prime. Im not sure the replacement was even remanufactured but maybe a "couldnt duplicate issue" and thrown into a white box to be given out. There was a capacitor right above the 1st pcie16 slot than was scratched with a slight dent and a scatch near the bottom of the north bridge heat since from someone removing their video card i guess.
So what the heck, is this bad luck or am I causing the issue? I am suspicious that I have too many fans on the mobo. My fan arrangement changed recently about the same time all this started. I have 4 120mm fans for radiators(2 kuhler 120 and 2 corsair 120), kuhler 920 pump, and the corsair mem twin fans driven off the mobo. Previously when I was overclocking I only had 2 120mm fans, pump, and mem fans on for a while but recently off, and back on when I added the other 2 fans for the radiator. Could this be partly to blame? Regardless Im planning on removing all fans from the board next time except the 2 kuhler ones being controlled by the pump.
I know overclocking is running outside rated settings but no one buys a board like this to run at stock settings, thats why they advertise all the OC features and even have a clear cmos button on the i/o pannel.
Keep in mind i have done gaming at 4255mhz cpu and 2900ish nb, but wasnt prime stable very long, while the board failed settings where as followed:
overclock that both failed on was 4140mhz (230x18)
nb was aprox 2900mhz 1st failure and 2760mhz (aprox) 2nd time
1.40v cpu vdd
1.25v cpu-nb on 1st failure and 1.21ish on 2nd failure
1st failure had a few other voltage settings up a bit, 2nd failure all others where auto except memory at 1.655v memory spec
power supply is a corsair gs800 watt:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...orsair%20gs800
mother board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130274
setup:
rosewill blackhawk case
Msi 890fxa-gd70 mobo
amd 1100t x6
antec kuhler 920 modded for 2 120mm radiators and resivout
corsair 8GB dominator gt memory 1866mhz 4dimms
msi gtx560ti twin frozr ii
1 corsair f120ssd and 1 7200rpm seagate 1TB drive
corsair GS800 psu
8 120mm fans and twin corsair memory fan that comes with dominator gt memory
So am I causing the issue or a case of bad luck and not to worry? Im really wondering if its the fans, thus why the asus crossfire has so many extra power connections on the board. I just figured the board had all those fan connections it must have been able to handle it, all but one was being used, maybe they didnt plan on 120mm fans being used in most of them.
I do wanna say Im glad msi has been friendly and am so glad they allow me to drop off and pick up since I live/work nearby. Today I dropped off the bad rma unit and they said they would give me a "new" one, probably a new refurb, but they told me to pick it up tomorrow because they are gonna burn test it overnight so I dont have any issues with the next one. Them stress testing it was nice. I would discuss my setup with them so we could both learn from it but the people I dealt with didnt seem to care how it went out.
Thanks for input guys, dont wanna waste my time or theirs smoking another board. Hope the next one does well or may need to look into a crossfire v. I have always liked MSI and also use their gtx560 ti.

manual settings. I wish I wrote my settings down other than just a saved profile, guess I should have also had my bios backed up too
I have played with a bunch of different settings but 4025mhz (230x17.5) was prime stable for one hour so i used that as my stable oc with only 1.40v on cpu vdd, think it even did an hour on 1.38v too if I remember but left it at 1.40 for good measure. Which if not mistaken is the max normal range the cpu is rated for and used durring normal operation when it ramps to 3.7ghz on stock settings.
I have done gaming (crysis2 w/dx11 patch and cod blackops) on 4255mhz with 1.43v. Would easily play till I got tired after an hour of gaming, but would fail prime within 7-8mins...Would shut down and have fans all running and needed to cycle psu. I have always wondered if that was a psu issue since both games use all 6 cores but same time prime IS A KILLER so figured was just the cpu
When the board failed settings where as followed:
overclock that both failed on was 4140mhz (230x18)
nb was aprox 2900mhz 1st failure and 2760mhz (aprox) 2nd time
1.40v cpu vdd on both times
1.25v cpu-nb on 1st failure and 1.21ish on 2nd failure
memory run in the 1840mhz range on 4 dimms
1st failure had a few other voltage settings up a bit (some where most 2 ticks above auto but sb 1.22v)
2nd failure all others where auto except memory at 1.655v memory spec and like mentioned cpuvdd 1.40, even nb was auto

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