8gb ram worth it for 32bit Vista?

hi-
I have huge files that are painfully slow to work with -ie 15,000 by 10,000 pixels, 1 - 1.5GB in size. I have the 32bit version of Vista, 4gb ram.
If I upgraded to 8gb ram, would it really be worth it? I know the faq says that PS can somehow utilize this extra ram, but would PS be "as snappy" as when it has enough ram in the first place? If actions that take 15 minutes with these files would only take as long as the ones with my 600MB files, then I would do probably it. Do u think this would this be a major performance upgrade or just a tiny one?
your thoughts greatly appreciated!

Go with x64 vista first then try the file again ( in a 64 bit environment you can set PS to use just over 3gb ) then if you need more RAM then get 8GB.
But, like Freeagent said, x64 bit is the only way you will be able to use 8gb.
I work with massive files ( 45000 x 12000 pixels @250ppi ) and I need 16gb to keep things in check.....with vista ( search index, prefetch/superfetch etc disabled), photoshop and the image loaded, Vista will take up 12-14gb of RAM.
So the more ram the better IMO.
You will see improvements in performance with 8gb in PS. One thing I have noticed since upgrading to 16gb is that save times are dramatically faster - what would normally take 15 mins to save now takes between 2 to 5 mins.
Even with 16gb PS still goes to the scratch disk so a fast dedicated disk ( pref Raid 0 or 10k / 15k drive) is good advice.

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