945P NEO and RAID problems

This is my first time setting up a SATA raid system. Here is how i have the drives set up.
IDE1- LiteOn Combo drive with jumper set to slave
SATA1 - Seagate 80gig HD 300mb/s
SATA2 - Seagate 80gig HD 300mb/s
when i load up the CMOS it shows the LiteOn as the IDE Primary Slave and it shows the HD's as the IDE Third Master and Slave.
Then i go to Integrated Peripherials > SATA Devices Configuration
it wont let me access the Sata Mode; it appears like this
x SATA MODE [IDE]
and i cant access to change it.
I can change the On-Chip Serial ATA but cannot change the SATA MODE.
My goal is to make a RAID 0 set up with the drives.

No, this board does not support RAID. Only the Platinum boards support RAID. Sorry about that...
Regarding the things claimed by the box, I'm not sure what can you do with it. I think this is MSI mistake, you can approach MSI Support and ask them to give you a reason or this, then you can decide what you need to do next, (going for legal?)
Anyway, this board does not support RAID.

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K9A2 CF cold boot and RAID problem

Hi,
I am struggling with my mobo regarding recent cold boot issues and the problem to set up RAID on the SB600 chipset.
Here's my rig's description:
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Is there any specific option I should look for in the bios to change that? I assume I might have made a wrong configuration at some point.
Concerning the RAID problem I cannot access the SB600 onboard Fastbuild utility as long as the PCI sata controller is plugged in --> I get the "Not enough space to load PCI rom" error message. Without the PCI card I can access Fastbuild and define arrays without a glitch. But if I disconnect the card, I no longer have optical drives
Does anyone have a clue how to use the SB600 in raid mode along with a PCI sata controller?
Also, when RAID is setup, arrays defined and all HDDs recognized by the bios, is there a way to make Vista load the raid driver without reinstalling from scratch? For now I can use SATA drives in AHCI mode but get a BSOD whenever I try booting from RAID.
I know that's a lot of questions but I could really use some help. I have been roaming the web and could not find anything.
Thanks in advance for your insight.
Cheers

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Concerning the RAID problem I cannot access the SB600 onboard Fastbuild utility as long as the PCI sata controller is plugged in --> I get the "Not enough space to load PCI rom" error message. Without the PCI card I can access Fastbuild and define arrays without a glitch.
This is common problem with boot-roms, the BIOS can't handle multiple of them, only 1 if you use raid.
So disable the PCI-Sata bootrom or disable the RAID.
This is a BIOS limitation, nothing you can do about it.
AHCI is a type of RAID also.
What you see is normal, the BIOS doesn't have enough hooks to put a Boot-rom in, and exspecially the RAID MUST need one to function.
Other solution is to use Windows software raid and put the RAID controller in normal-mode.
You won't notice the speed difference anyway as the onboard is a soft-raid as well, but then done in the BIOS, however in both cases it's the CPU that must handle them.

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Hi All,
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Any ideas? Maybe this is something new on XP I am unaware of. I never had a problem changing IRQ's with 98
Windows XP is using ACPI (to be enabled or disabled in BIOS). You must also set it when installing Win. XP. During the start of the installation (the screen that says press F2 for system restore ect.....) you must press one of the F keys, I don't know for sure but I believe it was F6. Then a screen pops up and it lets you change the type of computer it'll be, standard PC, ACPI PC etc.... Then you should choose standard PC.
I don't know this for sure, so if anybody can aknowledge my story, you're welcome :D

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Try This.
Yes it worked... I did it a bunch of mins ago, ty a lot anyway

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i bought my motherboard last december,
now i realised that my ide and firewire socket heads are missing, can someone tell me where can i put those plug pins back?
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is there a way to put em back? cause i really wanna use the pins for my firewire bracket and my extra ide hard disk i have.....

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I have written to MSI, but I am not holding my breath for a resolution. Looks like I'm out a few hundred bucks for nothing.
I see we are not the only ones puzzled by the labeling on the box.
Quote from: dadrabbit on 05-June-06, 21:05:45
ow...your box says "945P Neo Platinum"??
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Hi Dallasourora and others,
I am finding this problem to be more and more insidious.
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I have written to MSI, but I am not holding my breath for a resolution. Looks like I'm out a few hundred bucks for nothing.
I see we are not the only ones puzzled by the labeling on the box.
Quote from: dadrabbit on 05-June-06, 21:05:45
ow...your box says "945P Neo Platinum"??
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