975X Platinum PowerUp end memory timings

I have this motherboard with SuperTalent DDR 2 800Mhz CL4 with timings 4-4-3-8. With auto settings in bios the CPU-Z It shows me this settings
With manual settings and voltage 2.1 i put the timings 4-4-3-8 and i take this
Why this error?

let me be the first to welcome you to the club :D
I have Corsair 2x1GB XMS2 800mhz with 4-4-4-12 timings and with fsb ratio on auto and 1.8v (default), it runs at 667mhz with the wrong timings (woohoo!), with manual timing values it runs fine but still at 667mhz. and with fsb ratio on 1.5 (i think) and 2.1v, it finally runs at 800mhz (yaay!) but now with completely different timings. if I only change the fsb ratio OR the voltage, the system doesn't boot. oh and this is on BIOS v7.2.

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A few questions about Memory and Power Supply for MSI 975X Platinum Powerup Edit

Bought this Motherboard: MSI 975X Platinum Powerup Edition
975X Platinum V.2(7246-020)
I have a P4 CPU HT in it with 2 512mb sticks of DDR2 memory (533mhz).
I am upgrading to a Core 2 Duo 6600 CPU which has a 1066mhz FSB
What memory speed should I purchase to achieve the fastest bus speed without overclocking???
I get confused as my current memory is 533 which I guess on a Pentium 4 with HT cuts the FSB speed in 1/2 to 266mhz.
Any recommendations?
Do I need to buy Dual Channel or can I just buy 2 sticks?
Thank you
Peter

Quote from: /dot on 07-February-07, 15:46:41
Great info again guys!
I'll stay away from OCZ (I read it's more for overclockers).
@DryHeat:
I watched your sig, great setup! I'm planning for about the same setup (MSI 975x PUE, P180, C2D, ...). But will try a Scythe Ninja for CPU cooler and use an MSI graphic card (maybe 2 cards for 4 monitors in total).
Is your setup silent or just quiet? Makes a big difference for me.
What would you change now? And what is the most noisy component?
Sorry for all the questions but I'm not an expert and by budget does not permit me from making any mistakes.
The case fans create the most noise. When they are all on "low" I an hardly hear them and have to shake the mouse to see if it's on, but on medium it sounds like a "standard" computer. Not terrible, but not quite. On high they are down-right loud.

975X Platinum PowerUp Edition

MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition(MS-7246, PCB 2.1)
Beta BIOS ver, 7.54
Date: 04/26/07
Make and ensure PC is stable before proceed. flash BIOS from USB key, by using our Tool(easy & safe way to flash):
MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool
Use Beta or Modded BIOSes at own risk!

The latest BETA BIOS for 975X Platinum Power-Up Edition [MS-7246 v2.x] is W7246IMS.782 [v7.8b2]. I will upload it here, because it addresses a specific problem that occurs with v7.70 (official) when memory timings are manually set to CL4 values:
Changelog:
Quote
Fixed the Memory of "CAS Latency Time" couldn't be manually adjusted
anymore, the system will hang up at POST code 15.
The problem does not seem to occur with all memory modules and is not an issue with BIOS Versions prior to v7.6.
Flash and use this BIOS-File at your own risk!
Use the MSIHQ USB Flashing Tool if you decide to update:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108079.0

975X Platinum PowerUp - Windows will not Restart - only shutdown

I've had a MSI 975x Platinum Powerup for several weeks now and have a really annoying problem.
When booted and in Windows the system is pretty stable. I've even had some success at overclocking (up to 333 with an E6400). However, even when not overclocked it I select Windows Restart the machine will shutdown but will not POST on the restart. The machine just sits there with no video signal.
however if I do Windows Shutdown and the physically power the machine back on, everything seems okay.
This maybe isnt a big deal, but is very irritating. I've seen some passing reference to other members of the forums that have a similar sounding problem, but there are no details.
Could anyone tell me if this is a known issue, and whether there is a solution or not.
Is it the case that only some people have this problem or do all 975x users have it?
I've tried MSI support who just responded with a generic 'have you checked x,y,z' message.
have detailed some of the other components of my machine below - let me know if you need anything more
Thanks in advance,
James.
BIOS: 7.3 (7.1 and 7.2 had the same problem also)
VGA Type:MSI GeForce 7900 GTO SILENT 512MB
CPU Type:E6400
Memory Type:GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit
Power Supply Type:650W XCLIO X14 PSU
Operating System:Windows XP professional

Hi, The only thing I need to change in the bios is to turn off 'spread spectrum' and run the memory @2.2v. I have found turning off speedstep and C1E made no difference for me. At 375 if you run the memory with the 1:1 divider it will be running @750 so you can manually select 4,4,4,12 for the memory timings. This will not help the restart problem though.
Having said that, any bios after 7.2 will alter your manual memory settings and if you enter the above ( GeILs recommended settings) it will change them to 4,5,6,12.......... Another bios quirk I'm afraid!
To get around this you can go back to bios 7.1 which leaves these settings alone. What I have found works well is to leave the divider option on 'AUTO' . This applies the 1:1.25 ratio, and leaves memory timings on 4,4,4,12 with the ram running @875 when on 350 FSB. I run this setting @ 375, but I put the memory timings on 'SPD' as the ram is then running @938. You can run up to 2.3v through this ram according to OCUK where I bought the memory which may help you get up to these speeds or tighten the timings a bit.
380 is about the fastsest mine will boot at and adding more vcore (up to 1.4v) made no difference to this. I have tried upping the pcie voltage (which is the chipset voltage on this board) to 1.6v, but this didn't help either! Some people seem to get over 400FSB easily and others seem to have hit the same wall as me. People who can attain the high FSB speeds don't seem to suffer from the restart problems either! WEIRD!!
Let us know how how you get on.

975X Platinum PowerUp compatible GFX card

Hello,
instead of upgrading the whole pc i decided to upgrade just the graphics adapter. It is when i realised, that i.e. a nvidia gtx 285 does not fit into the pci-e slot, when all the sata ports are in use (i can't remove the sata connectors, as they are all needed, so i didn't check whether the gtx285 fits in with no sata connector)
The card right now in the pc is a msi 8800gtx, which has almost the same length as the gtx285, but lacks the end of the big exit fan.
My question is, can anyone recommend a new and good grapghics adapter, that will fit into the 975X Platinum PowerUp edition, when all sata slots are in use.
Thanks:)

Have you looked into SATA connectors that connect at 90°?

MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp and Areca arc-1220 problem

intel e6600 core duo
975x platinum powerup
2x kingston ddr2 PC6400 800Mhz CL5 Dual Channel Kit (KVR800D2N5K2⁄2G)
Sapphire ATI X1950XTX 512MB
4x Samsung spinpoint 500gb
Windows 2003 r2 sp2
Zalman ZM600-HP 600W
i have an ati radeon 1950xtx in my first pcie slot and the arc 1220 (sata raid)in the second pcie slot.
i dont see the card in bootup, already installed bios 7.7
tried the card in an other sytem works fine
also installed the latest firmware on the arc-1220 card
anyone have an idea which bios i should try

can you see the card in windows if you boot off the on-board controller?
I know Intel boards are picky with RAID controller cards. If the Intel RAID is enabled then a lot of add-on cards won't work. Also, even with Intel RAID disabled some still won't work. I had to flash my SiI 3132 RAID card to non-RAID for it to work as a boot device.
I've had my system not even post at all when both RAIDS are enabled. But if I get a post and it boots from the Intel side, it always sees the add-on RAID card.
Also, do you have the latest BIOS? Hopefully that will fix the issue.
Myself, I have the ARC-1210 controller and have NOT had any issues on my 975, 965, P35, or X38 boards. However, only the X38 board has allowed my card to run at full speed. The other chipsets run the 2nd PCIe X16 slot at only X4. It seems it's too slow for the controller to work properly, or there is some issues still. But my X38 boards run great. I get over 300MB/s with my 4 x 150MB Raptors in RAID0.
Good luck
-=Mark=-

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K8N Neo4 Platinum - Overclocking Troubles - Memory Timings (2T)

i had a similar problem at first, my system wouldnt post even at shockingly low overclocks, like 225 fsb, anyway i noticed that the 1,5 bios automatically set some strange timings for my ram, cant remember exactly what but when i went through the timings manually then i could clock up to 280 or so. This is on 166mhz memlock, i still cant get a decent overclock using the 150 memclock or anything lower.
Contacted MSI but the 'technical support' department, although quick to respond, seemed absolutely clueless when it comes to overclocking.

Unable to run 800Mhz memory on 975X Platinum PowerUp

hi,
I can't get my MSI board to recognize my 800mhz memory, it runs at 667mhz although it's 2x1GB Corsair XMS2-6400 4-4-4-12 2.1v. If I run CPU-Z, the SPD shows everything correctly, but I had to change the timing values manually, it defaults to 5-5-5-15 if I select "by SPD" in the BIOS. I'm running version 7.2 of the BIOS.
I'm pretty much a newbie when it comes to overclocking and tweaking BIOS settings, I just want it run at the correct speed and preferably not overclock at all.
Thanks in advance,
~ kiri

This is what they are saying for the version II
975X Platinum V.2
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=975X_Platinum_V.2&class=mb
Main Memory
• Supports 4 unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDR2 SDRAM
• Supports up to 8GB memory size
• Support Dual Channel DDR2 533/677/800MHz and up
Due to the High Performance Memory design, motherboards or system configurations may or may not operate smoothly at the JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council) standard settings (BIOS Default on the motherboard) such as DDR2 voltage, memory speeds and memory timing. Please confirm and adjust your memory setting in the BIOS accordingly for better system stability.
Example: Kingston HyperX DDR2-800 PC6400 operates at 2.0V, 4-4-4-12.
For more information about specification of high performance memory modules, please check with your Memory Manufactures for more details.
Gaucho

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Quote from: PeterFH on 17-November-06, 05:17:12
Thanks for the quick reply.
I have tried to clear the cmos with no effect.
Still the board boot with the 512mb pc4200 memory-module (I have no specs the this, sorry)
This is the pc:
Motherboard: 975X PowerUp Edition (with default settings in bios)
CPU: Intel Dual 2 Core E6600
Memory: OCZ 2x OCZ Gold XTC pc2-6400 1024mb timings: 5-5-5-12
Power-suppy: 550W 3.3V-35A... 5V-40A... 12V-16A...
HDD: Seagate 160gb SATAII
Video: Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce 7800GT
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_gold_gx_xtc_rev_2
That's your ram ?
Clearly says 1.95 - 2.1Volts ; Standard ddr2 voltage is 1.8 volts - not enough
Put VDimm to 2 Volts in bios...

975x Platinum PowerUp Dual Boot Issue

Hello -
I have a 975x Plat. PowerUp and dual boot Linux and Windows XP. This process works fine on BIOS 7.1, but fails to boot the Windows disk on BIOS 7.4 and newer. The disk still works, it just can't be started by the Linux bootloader (grub).
I spent a lot of time working on this as a grub issue, but in the end the only thing that affects the problem is revision of the BIOS I am using. (e.g., flash 7.4, Windows does not boot, reboot and flash 7.1, Windows boots).
I also get an issue where I cannot eject the CD drive on warm boot under the same conditions (like a BIOS boot disc, or a Windows boot disc). Works fine on 7.1 not on 7.4 or newer.
I have all 4 ports on the ICH7 controller used for hard drives, and the JMicron controller used for a SATA DVD drive. The issue occurs in IDE or AHCI mode (currently using AHCI mode).
Are these known problems? Are there known fixes? I would like to use a newer BIOS because I have an MS USB keyboard that does not work in DOS mode with BIOS < 7.4 (need keyboard to select OS at boot time).
Thanks,
Chris

Not sure if this will help: BIOS 7.61 BETA - Flash at your own risk - http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=32518&threadview=1&hilight=&hilightuser=0#post264463

MSI 975X platinum powerup question

Hi,
I've got a 975X powerup motherboard with a 7600GT graphics card in the primary 16x slot. (Its a 16x graphics card)
The graphics card has a big fan on it which covers one of my 1x slots and the other one is in use.
I'd like to use the other 16x slot for a USB 3.0 PCI-express card. (a 1x card). Is it possible ?
I know the secondary slot's main purpose is for Crossfire, but can the secondary slot be used for other PCI-Express cards ?
I want to be sure. I don't want to blow anything on my board.
Thanks

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I just wondered if the secondary slot is only for a second graphics card. The motherboard manual is not very clear.
No, as far as I know it is not limited to video cards. Appart from the age difference between board/chipset and USB controller, a further question remains regarding the lane assignment. With only one PCI-E x16 card installed, the primary PCI-E slot will get x16 lanes and the secondary PCI-E x16 slot x0 [x16/x0] lanes. If there would be a second video card installed, the chipset's PCI-E switching logic will switch to bifurcation mode, re-assigning x8 of the formerly x16 lanes of the first slot to the secondary slot [x8/x8]. A x15/x1 mode is not possible. So, the question is, whether or not the PCI-E switching logic allows x1 lanes on the secondary slot [letting x7 lanes left unused].
I just had a look at the Intel datasheet for the 975X chipset [the chapter on PCI Express functionally]. I have to admit, that I only skipped through and did not really read it thouroughfully. But from what I can tell, there is no definate restriction regarding the bifurcation logic of the PCI Express controller. However, if you have the time, take a look yourself:
http://www.intel.com/assets/pdf/datasheet/310158.pdf
Start reading on page 223 and then onward. The functionally of the PCI Express switching logic is covered here. To be honest, Intel does not seem very clear on the matter either. Looking at the introductory paragraph on page 21, the title is "PCI Express* Graphics Interface" and not simply "PCI Express* Interface". In addition to that it says "Bifurcated PCI Express* Graphics Supported Features" instead of "Bifurcated PCI Express* Graphics Supported Features" on the same page.
So, again, I guess the only thing that makes sense suggesting is to simply give it a try and see how it goes.

975X Platinum PowerUp+E6300, No more than 320 FSB

Hello alltogether,
I have a problem with OC my system (components are listed in my signature).
I am actually using BIOS 7.4 (official), Intel SpeedStep is disabled, RAM is set to 1:1 and timings are set by SPD.
I used ClockGen, started two sessions of Prime95 (set one to CPU0 and the other one to CPU1). I could raise the FSB up to 320 MHZ without any errors in Prime. When I entered 325 MHZ, the system freezes. I expected to first get an error in prime....... After rebooting and the "OC failed"-message, the default value of 266 was set.
Any ideas ? I try to achieve 366 MHZ FSB to run the memory with 1:1 .....
Thank you in advance for any hints, ideas, tips .....

Yeeees, now it works !
I disabled / modified the following entries:
Advanced Bios C1E,Execute Disable Bit, SpeedStepping
Advanced Chipset alle Einträge
Integrated Peripherals Jmicron
PnP/PCI Configuration PCI/VGA Palette Snoop
HW Monitor Smart Fan
Core Cell Dynamic OC
Memory 5-5-5-15
FSB to Memory ratio 1:1
Memory Voltage 2,1V
PCI-E Frequency 100
PCI-E Voltage 1,5V (Default)
Autodetect pci clock disable
Spread Spectrum disable
Remark: C1E was removed in BIOS 7.4 (official)
But it worked for me with this version.
Without changing the voltages, I did not reach a higher FSB than before.
So I set the CPU to 1,37V and the memory to 2,1V.
Result: I was able to increase the FSB up to 340MHZ, at 345 Windows freezes (tested with 2 instances of Prime95 and ClockGen). For me this result is sufficient, I only want to use 333MHZ FSB, because of my memory. Although some users report that they reach 400MHZ FSB without raising the voltages for CPU and memory.
Now I will find out, if I can lower the voltages.....
Many thanks for your tips and ideas !!!
I hope that these settings will help someone else. I was quite sure that I used them before, but obviously not in this combination.

K8N Neo4 Platinum - Overclocking Troubles - Memory Timings (2T)

I just recently got a new MSI motherboard, but I'm having some overclocking problems. The motherboard fails to post at anything over 235Mhz FSB. In the BIOS I have already:
1.) Set the Memory to 166Mhz
2.) Set the HTT multiplier to 3x and 2x
3.) Set the CPU multiplier to 6X
4.) Changed HT width to 8/8 just to see if it had any effect
That keeps all other components at stock speed or lower, so voltage adjustments aren't needed. I have tried giving the memory more voltage becuase no matter what I do it runs at 2T timings. I've also tried increasing the chipset voltage to compensate for the higher FSB. None of this helps. I am using the lastest BIOS available on the site (v1.5).
My other hardware includes:
Athlon 64 3700 (SanDiego)
2048MB Muskin PC3200 Level 2 TCCD (4x512MB) - also tried 2x512MB and 2x256MB of GSkill PC3200
HIS Radeon X850 XT PE
Enermax 485w ATX 2.0 PSU (all voltages are within spec)
Can anyone help me out with either the overclocking issue, or the 2T memory timing problem? Thanks in advance.

i had a similar problem at first, my system wouldnt post even at shockingly low overclocks, like 225 fsb, anyway i noticed that the 1,5 bios automatically set some strange timings for my ram, cant remember exactly what but when i went through the timings manually then i could clock up to 280 or so. This is on 166mhz memlock, i still cant get a decent overclock using the 150 memclock or anything lower.
Contacted MSI but the 'technical support' department, although quick to respond, seemed absolutely clueless when it comes to overclocking.

MOVED: 975x Platinum Powerup Ed/vMCH voltage...

This topic has been moved to Intel Core Duo and Core 2 Duo based boards.
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This is a test to see how far I can push my RAM, not the CPU! Therefore I have to use dividers
Ok, listen up. Bios 7.16 seems to have fixed for me the problem I had when running dividers 3:4 (1.33 bios setting), 2:3 (1.5) and 3:5 (1.66).
I did some testing earlier with the 2:3 divider/ratio too keep my FSB low so that I can push the RAM beyond my previous 470Mhz at 4:5 (1.25). Anyway, with a combination of clockgen and memset I can get DDR-1120 at reasonable ram timings...
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Once again I encounter the dreaded 375Mhx FSB wall on my mobo so at the moment I can't push my RAM any further than 560Mhz with 2:3. I would use the 1:2 divider but there's a problem. The lowest the FSB can be set to is 266Mhz. With a 1:2 divider that means that RAM has to boot at 533Mhz. The SPD setting for tRD (read delay) is too tight for 533Mhz with my RAM and so it won't boot. If the bios engineers could just add options to adjust the rest of the RAM timings beyond the basic 4 then I'd be able to relax the TRD before boot and use the 1:2 divider.
Seeing as I can't clock my CPU or RAM any higher due to the 375Mhz FSB limit I'm gonna put in the other 2Gb of the same ram, install WinXP 64Bit and see how 4Gb can overclock compared to 2Gb on this mobo

MOVED: 975X Platinum PowerUp+E6300, No more than 320 FSB

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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Yeeees, now it works !
I disabled / modified the following entries:
Advanced Bios C1E,Execute Disable Bit, SpeedStepping
Advanced Chipset alle Einträge
Integrated Peripherals Jmicron
PnP/PCI Configuration PCI/VGA Palette Snoop
HW Monitor Smart Fan
Core Cell Dynamic OC
Memory 5-5-5-15
FSB to Memory ratio 1:1
Memory Voltage 2,1V
PCI-E Frequency 100
PCI-E Voltage 1,5V (Default)
Autodetect pci clock disable
Spread Spectrum disable
Remark: C1E was removed in BIOS 7.4 (official)
But it worked for me with this version.
Without changing the voltages, I did not reach a higher FSB than before.
So I set the CPU to 1,37V and the memory to 2,1V.
Result: I was able to increase the FSB up to 340MHZ, at 345 Windows freezes (tested with 2 instances of Prime95 and ClockGen). For me this result is sufficient, I only want to use 333MHZ FSB, because of my memory. Although some users report that they reach 400MHZ FSB without raising the voltages for CPU and memory.
Now I will find out, if I can lower the voltages.....
Many thanks for your tips and ideas !!!
I hope that these settings will help someone else. I was quite sure that I used them before, but obviously not in this combination.

975X Platinum PowerUp end memory timings

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