975x PowerUP Edition : Voltage measurement points with DMM - Where?

Does anybody know where on this mobo I can measure various voltages, in particular vdd (mem) and vcore?
I'd like to be able to see how inaccurate most of the software monitoring apps I use are

Quote from: Oratiek on 23-August-06, 04:14:34
Thanks for the input so far guys.
I just want to double check...
Click to enlarge
For vdimm...
RacerX says top leg of mosfet (number 1 in the pic) = 2.27v
Maesus says north pin of coil (number 2 in the pic) = 5.01v
Even EDO Ram only needed 3.3v so I guess number is the correct measuring point since I've set 2.2v in the BIOS.
As for the vcore, I'll have to figure out a way to get the mobo to stand upright on the floor so I can access the back of the board with both hands
You need to measure the coil under the PCI slot(tough with video card) but it measures the same as the mosfet I mentioned. Still don't understand the vcore measurement but whats important is where to measure this so call vMCH or PCI xpress voltage. To be honest it does nothing in terms of OCing compared to other boards with this option. Any ideas?

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