9800 PRO 8x AGP Voltage?

I have an ATI-RADEON-9800-PRO-128Meg card.I run it at 8X AGP with fast writes enabled.I noticed that the voltage can not be adjusted below 1.55V in the BIOS.ATI states the the 9800-PRO 8x AGP should be 0.8V.AGP 8X (0.8v), 4X (1.5V).Core Center will not allow me to adjust it down below 1.50V.Am I going to ruin my card?It is all set on auto and not user.I just assumed that it was correct until I seen the specs on the card.If I use the SAMRTGART feature in the ATI control panel and change the AGP to 4x,the voltage stays the same at 1.55V.I do not have any problems with the way it is running now.But if it is going to cause damage to my card,should I remove the card until the BIOS is corrected?Now I will be worried about smoking the card.It is only a few months old.

Hi,
I'm a little bit confused now about these voltages. I understand that AGP 2x/4x/8x = 3.3V/1.5V/0.8V. I bought an RX9800PRO-TD128SP.
I have an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with the following AGP specifications:
1 x AGP Pro/8X (1.5V only)
The VGA card replaced a Sapphire 9600PRO which only worked with 4x AGP and fast writes off (because in 8x AGP mode I've always encountered the same problem: the games quited to desktop or the monitor went in standby mode - in 3DMark03 it displayed a "monitor lost focus" message and went in standby mode).
So I installed the MSI product and I didn't have any problems with 3DMark03 anymore (I haven't tried playing yet). I have the latest ATI drivers and the AGP is set to 8x and Fast writes is on.
So we've arrived to the point where I'm confused: if my card runs on AGP 8x then the voltage must be 0.8 V. But how is this possible if the motherboard supports AGP 8x 1.5V only. Is this possible that the card can withstand an overvoltage or is this voltage just for signal purposes and all AGP 8x slots have 0.8 V (the ABIT motherboards - like NF7-S - support AGP 8x (0.8 V / 1.5 V). Or do I misinterpret something?
I wanted to find the answer in the knowledge base but I failed (page not found error):
Question:
How can I know what is my AGP card voltage?
Answer:
Most AGP4x & AGP 8x card are 1.5v
For more information, refer to link http://www.msi.com.tw/html/e_service/techexpress/tech_column/pertect/page1.htm
Thank you for your answer,
Uridium

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I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
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120gig western digital harddrive
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Radeon 9800 Pro All in Wonder 128mb
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum
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Sound card at PCI Slot 3 (PCI bus 3, device 2, function 0)
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I am having problems with my current system. I just purchased new mem, mb/proc, vid and for some reason the machine doesn't post.
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1. Unplugged all other devices from the power supply except the graphics card and floppy drive. Still no post.
2. The 9800 Pro did post in another machine at BestBuy.
3. Cleared the CMOS settings.
4. Swapped out the power supply with a new 430w Antec
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Processor Retail Intel P4 2.4c
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Video Retail ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
Power Antec Truepower 430w
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Well I did not have the exact same problem as you but perhaps I can help with my experience.
I have the 875p neo and I had a Geforce 4 ti4200 installed everything was working fine with performance set to fast in the bios. I bought an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro. Once installed the system would lock up within one minute of booting to windows XP. The solution for me was to set performance mode in the bios to Slow this is the only way I could get stability out of the system with the 9500 Pro.
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You might also try setting ram voltage to 1.65 and AGP voltage to 1.55 Slowly increment up on the voltages if no joy.
Post again if still no joy.
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