9800XT - K8N problem

decided i didnt like my old motherboard so i got a k8n so i could do a bit of clocking.
installed board without a problem and did a fresh install of win xp sp1 (dont like sp 2). got all the latest drivers and installed untill i ran into a sevier problem with the graphic card drivers.
to begin with the card works fine under the standard xp vga driver but as soon as i insall the cats my machine will load untill the point of actually going to desktop and then lock. sometime the screen will be blank and other time it will be as thou it is out of resolution (max res = 1600 x 1024).
i have tried this with as many driver combinations as i can think of with alot of setting turned off in the bios including side band/fast writes/ apeture size.
i have tried the card in both DVI/vga mode and still the same and i have also tried the card in my other machine and all works fine.
If i put my ATI 9200 in my main machine everything works fine there.
any ideas ????
specs below

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Originally posted by BOSSKILLER
post you full PC specification. im not 100% sure in your problem is in video card.
your memory timming is too agresive dont know your FBS and all other thinks. also this 9800xt may required more power.  you can increase vcore AGP with 0,1 etc. form 1.5 to 1.6
other probably reason could be bad power supply.
post full PC spec.
previous setup was the same except for the motherboard which was an abit KV8-MAX3 which worked perfectly.
the memory is designed to work at those cas settings but to rule out that option i have tried lowering the settings to less aggressive timings to no avail (it also works at 2,2,2,5 with my 9200) so i dont think ram is a problem.
i have done NO overclocking yet since i dont have a stable system (cpu and mem set to 200 mhz)
power is a enermax 365 watt but again has worked flawlesly with old motherboard and the 9200 full working system. (to test it i will be hooking up another power suppy tonight to just do the graphics card. i will also try adjusting up the agp voltage as you suggested)
thanks for the reply and any others will be welcome as i am out of ideas.

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    2.  Every time I power the computer on I recieve a "CMOS CHECKSUM ERROR".  If I power the computer on and off again the D-bracket indicator suggests the CPU is damaged or not installer properly.  I reset the bios with the JBAT1 jumper.  If I turn the power on again it starts to boot and reports cmos checkup error all over again.  I took the battery out to clear CMOS.  I changed values in the BIOS and choose the option to save the settings.  The same thing accurs.   If you disable the floppy in the bios the machine will boot up with checksum error.  I have to install a floppy in the PC to load the SATA drivers in XP during the booting of the CD.  
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    First D-BRACKET says bad processor.  I reset JBAT1 - it mysteriously starts to post, etc.

    I disconnected the front panel USB.  I honestly dont have a USB keyboard handy.  I booted without the keyboard however and it still hung in the same place stating checksum error and the d-bracket point to the floppy controller again.
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    Know pepole with same case/PSU as me (with "only" 17A on the 12V) and morew power demanding HW (9800xt) ... no probs anywere....
    I belive that poeple shuld be aware of that not all problems are caused by having a PSU with less than 24A@12V rail....
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    Cpu : 2,2ghz@2,4ghz
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  • MSI K8N SLI and Athon 64 X2 4200+: some problems

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  • K8N Neo2 and 6800 Problems

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    I then installed Rome Total War and played for about 2 hours and had one black screen crash
    Great isn't it (although not without the occasional crash)
    Would you say it's better but not there yet ? or the same ?
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    It's a small thing but it may be slightly better to have both your maxtors together on IDE channel 1, given their identical.
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    Why are you insistent on running your frequency at 300Mhz and higher?  Why not lower the frequency and increase the multiplier?  For example, you could run 275Mhz x 11 for a CPU frequency of 3025Mhz.  Then you could still run your RAM at the 1:1 ratio.....
    Just a thought -- curious why you haven't tried that...

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    About a month ago I managed to kill my k8n board and got a replacement one. Now after setting everything back up, my hsf no longer spins any faster than 3500rpm, regardless if i turn my fan up to 100% in speedfan or run games for hours.
    Anyone have a clue?
    My specs:
    A64 2800+ @ 2.16Ghz (newcastle core)
    MSI K8N FSR
    1 Gig DDR3200 (generic)
    Leadtek Geforce 6600GT

    this may sound weird but sometimes i like to return my bios to version 1.3 or below... i want to hear my cpu fan roar! eventhough the reading is high with the old bios, atleast now i'm sure that my CPU is cool... cooler if my CPU fan is on high speed.
    hope msi can make a bios update where the user can manually adjust the fan speed to its max... (its true max speed) unlike right now which the max speed only reaches 3000 rpm but its capable of running 5500 rpm.
    pray... pray... pray... Lord please have MSI hear my prayers.

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    When I then start shooting its even more difficult to get a good aim cuz they lag and one time they are here, the next they are in an entirely diff spot and my shooting certainly doesn't help to decrease the choppyness:) Its not allways this bad but every game I play has these bad spells, sometimes the entire game, sometimes only half the time depending on whats happening onscreen I guess.
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    I have reached a point where I cannot do anything anymore, I have asked many questions already(ATI, Punkbuster, Nvidia, MSI), and all i get is standard set up mailing lists with what I could do. If this is customer support then plz crown me Sultan of Brunei, cuz I can do it like this too. Is this adressing a problem, eeerm I think mr Spock after looking at it logically would not even deem this worthy to an answer, since its that obvious.
    So basically noone is willing to help, they are very willing to grab your money but when it comes to support all you get is a cheap script saying, when mail sent to [email protected] send "Standard mailing list A" back, when mail sent to [email protected] reply with "standard mailing list Ç", etc etc.
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    Regards,
    A disgruntled MSI buyer
    PS : I said above this problem is mainly related to ATI based cards but when you try to tell me i should try new drivers then plz don't go there cuz I tried everything from omega to iota and nothing works, the only thing that even stops the freezing is the specially modded drivers some dude fixed up. But it still leave me with crappy performance.

    Quote
    Originally posted by Capcom
    Hiya all,
    I bought this K8N motherboard two weeks ago and at first I seemed very happy with it, but when fulfilling the final steps in the installation of my PC(being installing of all my important games, voice over IP software, firewalls, security etc)I started noticing some very very disturbing things.
    First of all, my onboard sound is totally unusable for online gaming, my microphone cannot be set up no matter what combinations of options I use. The sound is just messed up. When i and my friend enter our ventrilo server and he starts speaking he hears himself 10 times in an echo, and its not him thats causing this its me. When another friend joins and i leave all is just fine(hence i am the cause). Also to try and fix this problem i bought a soundblaster live 5.1. I can install it under windows XP but for the life of me I cannot get my microphone to lit up my ventrilo voicechat thus my voice is not recognized and not processed, so this then also does not work, 2 methods to get voice over IP working and none of them work??? I will award MSI the nobel price of irony for that.
    Secondly, all punkbuster related online games have become totally unplayable. At first I got very annoying freezes every 2-3 minutes, it lasts a few secs and then i can play on for 2-3 more minutes until it happens again, and again and again....... Now I fixed that particular problem by downloading specially modified Call of Duty 3.9 ATI catalyst drivers but the fun doesn't stop there. Now when I play games I get strokes of extreme choppyness in an online game like Enemy Territory. When setting my fps to a steady 76fps and seeing it stay that way and knowing it can easily stay stable even at 100fps is what I find very very weird. So my comp runs very smooth, but lo and behold there is still choppy performance, other players struttling ahead as if all of them have major lag(while all sport pings of ~20-40).
    When I then start shooting its even more difficult to get a good aim cuz they lag and one time they are here, the next they are in an entirely diff spot and my shooting certainly doesn't help to decrease the choppyness:) Its not allways this bad but every game I play has these bad spells, sometimes the entire game, sometimes only half the time depending on whats happening onscreen I guess.
    Now with my Pentium 4 2.8Ghz and my exact same radeon I did not have any of these problems, its a slower comp but it still runs these online games 10x smoother??? I have noticed however that it is indeed mainly related to punkbuster or opengl related games. And as far as I can tell, only ATI suffers from it, since my friend who has exactly the same setup as me runs supersmooth with no lag whatsoever. All he has diff from me is his graphics card, which is nvidia???
    Am I now forced to shell out another 300$ for an nvidia based card that matches the speed of my 9800 pro?? This whole buying of the MSI has grown into quite the ordeal.
    Thirdly, I am also noticing some strange temps on my CPU, i have a zalman CPS7000A-alcu and it should cool better than stock, but after 4 reseats and applying of AS5(applied according to their instructions on site)it still gives me temps of 59°C at full load????? I find this really really high, and I do know i applied the paste very very good. I can tell cuz after I reseated it a few times each time you can clearly see how good it has spread towards all the edges. And its a fine thin layer, so no probs on my end. I am doing all this by the book and with greatest care.
    As I am a clanbase player, and a very good one at that, I am seriously hampered in my gaming experience. While I used to get killed/deaths ratios of on average K:60-90+ /D:11-20 on my P4 for Enemy Territory I now have a very hard time even getting on K:50 D:32 each level. This is a serious dent in my budget as well since now for sanctioned events I will have to buy a new comp just to be able to play to my old standards:(:(:(
    I have reached a point where I cannot do anything anymore, I have asked many questions already(ATI, Punkbuster, Nvidia, MSI), and all i get is standard set up mailing lists with what I could do. If this is customer support then plz crown me Sultan of Brunei, cuz I can do it like this too. Is this adressing a problem, eeerm I think mr Spock after looking at it logically would not even deem this worthy to an answer, since its that obvious.
    So basically noone is willing to help, they are very willing to grab your money but when it comes to support all you get is a cheap script saying, when mail sent to [email protected] send "Standard mailing list A" back, when mail sent to [email protected] reply with "standard mailing list Ç", etc etc.
    Sad very sad how they treat us poor dumb customers these days,
    Regards,
    A disgruntled MSI buyer
    If you would like to submit a list, numbered (1, 2, 3, 4) with problems and your complete configuration, I'd be happy (along with others) to go through and find the problems for you.
    If you just want to post a rant with "MSI Sucks" and admit your a chump for doing a stupid thing like buying an MSI boar: Then just return it please. Save others the trouble and get your money back.
    That way you are happy, and don't have such a high stress level.

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