A/B Speakers on DDTS? / Upmixing

I have a 5.1 speaker system downstairs connected to a DDTS and a splitter that goes to another amplifier, which has wire running upstairs to two more speakers. Obviously the DDTS doesn't have an A/B speaker selection. What channel should I split the signal from to go to the other amplifier that leads to the speakers upstairs?
Also, can you explain how the music upmixing works? Is there a way to have the stereo signal just sent through left / right speakers all around?

Correction, it is not really a Snow. It is an Airport Extreme BS capable of b/g only. It is just the old "Saucer" shape of the Snow.
When I originally configured the network I thought I needed WDS, (but thanks Tesserax) I found out that I did not need WDS, so I really did not need the AEBS, just the three AX's
SInce my reconfiguration, the music network works just great. Love the ability to control what's playing, and which speakers are on or off anywhere in my house from my iPod Touch. This is now the music system I wanted all along.
Thanks again (Tesserax) for all the help, you are a real asset to this forum!
Later,
Andy

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Hello! If the upmix is OFF, where suppose the sound come? all the speakers?
When upmix is OFF, the center-speaker is off?
Sorry my bad english..
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CL Mods/Admin - You dont have to explain to me about having discrete 7.1 output. I know about those very well now. I guess you'd pretty much figured that out, eh?
Message Edited by BigBen on 12-10-2004 08:39 AM

BigBen,
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Yes, I read it here: http://www.ausmedia.com.au/Creative%20DDTS-00.htm
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kyle_hunt85,
Hitting the tab key perhaps? Gets me every time.
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