A better clock....?

I will appreciate advice about a better menu bar clock - one that shows day & date if possible.
Thanks,
TerryW

You're Welcome TerryW!
I'm happy that you found something that suits your taste!
And Thank You, for extending the courtesy, of awarding in Discussions, as this is not a requirement, nor mandatory, but is much appreciated!
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Setup external clock

I just bought a GENx192 by lucid. I was having problems with the projectmix and my audio. So I went and picked up a better clock. But now Im wondering how to hook it all up. I have it hooked up I think. But do I have to set the sample rate on both the GENx and in logic or if I have it sync right should I be able to just set the GENx and Logic should change also. Thanks.
I cant remember the name of the cable that I use but its a monster cable and it is the right one thats for sure.

I have an iMac (Intel) running Tiger 10.4.11 and when I have a digital input to this Mac I can see the signal is going in on the input meter in the iMac. But the clock source "default" is greyed out. But it must be clocking to this audiio... I figure... otherwise it would not sync to it. When I remove this input I cannot select external/digital clocking. When I connect a firewire digital audio interface and select properties for it I can select clocking for it either internal or digital.
But my real problem is on a Mac Pro running Leopard 10.5.3. On this Mac it seems to me that I cannot select external or digital clocking under any conditions.
And I am wondering if a change has been from Tiger to Leopard such that there is no option to select digital/external clocking for audio. That is the crux of my question?

Disappointing MSI GTX 660 TF3 clock speeds / voltage, not on par with others

Hi,
I wanted to ask why is there suck a disperency between my GTX 660 TF3 speeds/voltage compared to other people.
My max boost clock is 1123.5 whereas most references i found are above 1150/60+ in average
My max voltage under full load in GPU-Z is 1.162 whereas others got 1.175
Is it linked to my poor ASIC of 68.8% ?
Currently disappointed because i thought that by buying an MSI card (premium priced in my country) i would got better clocks or at least clocks in the average range of other users. I guess i'm just unlucky, but being a bit burnt now, i think i'll pass and try another brand next time.
That said, is it normal that my card doesnt even reach a voltage of 1.175 under full load ???
Thanks in advance for your reply, and merry christmas anyways.

Quote from: zigzagzap on 26-December-12, 05:30:34
Thank you for the reply, but talking to me about overclock is a bit off-topic dont you think?
not really as the boost clock is an automatic overclock (the boost clock is down to the GPU as well, some will hit the target of 1150MHz some wont)!
Quote from: zigzagzap on 26-December-12, 05:30:34
Under stock presets (no-overclock-at-all), all of them have cards that got a 1.175 voltage under full load whereas mine is only 1.162
Even when you look at reviews on internet, you can see that they list 1.175v as STOCK voltages under full load in their default specs sheet for that MSI card.
All in all, gotta ask again, is it normal for my card to not run at 1.175v on stock presets? Yes/no?
like i said it depends on the individual GPU! most will run at 1.175V under load normally but some wont as its very random as no 2 are identical and the voltage the core asks for is very random from sample core to sample core!
its all luck of the draw..... <--- seen some referance cards that will out perform full custom ones.
if you not satisfied >>How to contact MSI.<< contact them and if you wan't a replacement then they will tell you how to go about it! <--- no expected voltages or clock speeds are ever fully garenteed as the newer GPU's are all over the place.

T43 Toxicity?

Hello everyone, my name is Alex from italy and i am a new user in this forum, my first post.
I also am a new customer of Lenovo, as i bought a Refurbished T43 to play some older games.
Since this is my very first laptop, i have a few questions.
1)During long gaming sessions my laptop CPU gets as hot as 52 degrees celsius & the Hard Disk gets as hot as 41.(readings taken with Speedfan and Coretemp). Are those temperatures okay?
2)Are laptops meant to be used for long sessions? The temperature readings of my CPU & Hard Disk does not go higher even if i play for hours straight.
3)Should i use the battery untill it gets low and turn off the computer, or should i just keep it on recharging & play?
4)How can i check the temperature of my Battery, Motherboard and in general my laptop's internals?
5)Since laptops are so small, what internal temperature would actually make the laptop internals become dangerous for me to smell the laptop's hot air?
Thanks.

NOXIOUSVEGETA wrote:
Thanks but i would like to know if the temperatures are fine or not.
50°C is fine, but you haven't mentioned the peak temps during or directly after gaming.
NOXIOUSVEGETA wrote:
And if there is an effective way to get the dust out without actually opening up the laptop
Unfortunately no, the best way is removing the keyboard and palmrest, then blocking the fan from overspining (use your finger to gently block it) and applying compressed air to clean it. It would be even better if you remove the cooler to take a proper look and do a full cleanup.
Your T43 must be around 8/9 years old. If nobody renewed the thermal compound during this time the cooling as a whole will be running inefficiently.
NOXIOUSVEGETA wrote:
I think if i can control the voltage and clock, i can achieve better temperatures (lower voltages) and better clock speeds
You won't be solving a problem with this, only delaying it a little... There will be a moment in time when the thermal paste will be too dry and the heatpipes too old to proper cool the CPU/GPU
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Between the Imac 2.7 I5 and the Imac 3.4 I7...

I'm in between the Imac 2.7 I5 and the Imac 3.4 I7. I know there's a $500 difference so I'm trying to see if I really need that much power. I do mostly audio stuff with Digital Performer and Native Instruments Komplete which streams instruments. I'm also going to boost the RAM to 16GB. I'm mainly worried about glitching. I want to make sure that when I run photoshop and Final Cut Express that I won't have a problem with the 2.7 i5. Will it be fast enough? $500 is a lot of money for power that I may or may not use and would rather spend it on software upgrades if I truely don't need the fastest Imac. What is your opinion?

2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7
vs
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Higher clock speed
2.9 GHz
vs
2.5 GHz
More than 15% higher clock speed
More l3 cache
4 MB
vs
3 MB
Around 35% more l3 cache; more data can be stored in the l3 cache for quick access later
Supports trusted computing
Yes
vs
No
Allows for safer, more reliable computing
Better 3DMark11 physics score
5,140
vs
3,130
Around 65% better 3DMark11 physics score
Better turbo clock speed
1,250 MHz
vs
1,100 MHz
Around 15% better turbo clock speed
More l3 cache per core
2 MB/core
vs
1.5 MB/core
Around 35% more l3 cache per core
Better PassMark (Single core) score
1,790
vs
1,524
More than 15% better PassMark (Single core) score
Better 3DMark06 CPU score
4,134
vs
3,553
More than 15% better 3DMark06 CPU score
Better PassMark score
4,543
vs
3,823
Around 20% better PassMark score
Slightly better geekbench (32-bit) score
5,849
vs
4,947
Around 20% better geekbench (32-bit) score
Better clock speed
3.25 GHz
vs
2.88 GHz
Around 15% better clock speed
Slightly better PassMark score
1,823.4
vs
1,623.4
More than 10% better PassMark score

MSI Employees, Attention! Users too.

Hi
First of all, I'm not starting any flame here. I'm just not satisfied with everything.
In august I wanted to get a GeForce 6800 Ultra, and at last! I found one MSI NX6800 Ultra T2D256 at a retailer.. btw it was very expensive, and there was only 1 piece of it. Nevermind, i purchased it, finally I have the dream-card.
Ok, I got home, installed the fresh card, with the newest drivers. Running 3Dmark03... Freezing screen for 5 sec, then it continues!.. ROTFL...
What's wrong? My new memory modules? ? Nooo.. Those can't be.. It was clear that it is the GeForce.
So what? I downloaded the MSI 61.21 (cause there was no higher version in august), uninstalled the nVidia 61.77, and installed the MSI driver. No Shader Model 3.0 with the driver.. crap.
Running 3Dmark03 again.. hmm freezing screen is gone.. but there is a crack in the sound all the time. I hate it! What now?
I came to this forum, and checked other guys problems. I found out, that the original bios is CRAP, and it causes every problem which I was experiencing.
I saved my original bios, and flashed the card with nVidia's reference bios, and put back nvidia 61.77. Every single problem was gone, BUT the card did get a lower gpu speed. 400 mhz instead of msi factory standard 425. I thought "nevermind".
But! A new driver came from MSI, I installed it as fast as I found it on the web.
There were no problems. But there is a D.O.T. tab.. hmm. Let's try it!
Overclocking: Well, it's a GeForce 6800 Ultra, let's go to 10%, why not?
It's ok for the memories, but not for the GPU! It generates little artifacts on the screen! Put back to 8%... hmm, ok, but I don't get what I can with the driver, and I don't even get what I want!
And remember, the default GPU speed with this bios is 400 mhz!
What would overclocking do with the default BIOS at 425 mhz? 4% D.O.T. and the card crashes? Or what? This is lame man.
Why do you integrate this into the driver, if the 6800 ultra users can't even use it correctly?
Why don't you develop an updated bios for the card? It's about time man, and about time for a new liveupdate version too! The 3.6x doesn't work with it!
Why don't you reply for the users answers at support? They payed money for your company where you work!
Did you even read this post, or just scrolled down and running through it?
All I want to say with all these, that:
1. The card out of the box doesn't work properly. The original bios is a bug.
2. You have to search for others bioses and drivers, make a bootdisk and spend your expensive time with such lame things to replace the bios, and restart windows all the time.
3. You can't use the D.O.T. overclocking at max, because it is too much for the card, although there is a nice D.O.T. sticker on the box.. pathetic.
4. You get no support for your money... Just an updatet driver, which came a little late... Like a little piece of meat for the hungry animals in the zoo.. lol.
Besides these things, I really like this card. Not because it is MSI... because it is an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra!
With the original cooler I get 435/1200 stable. Nice, the memory speed is impressive, i think the card has good rams, i dunno which factory, Samsung or Hynix, but thanks to them! But, considering that the factory default is 425 for the GPU, the 435 is crap...
I hope I'll get better clock speeds after I installed some better cooler... Like Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5.
So: Thanks to nVidia , and none to MSI!

Quote
Originally posted by Xeon
Hi
First of all, I'm not starting any flame here. I'm just not satisfied with everything.
In august I wanted to get a GeForce 6800 Ultra, and at last! I found one MSI NX6800 Ultra T2D256 at a retailer.. btw it was very expensive, and there was only 1 piece of it. Nevermind, i purchased it, finally I have the dream-card.
Ok, I got home, installed the fresh card, with the newest drivers. Running 3Dmark03... Freezing screen for 5 sec, then it continues!.. ROTFL...
What's wrong? My new memory modules? ? Nooo.. Those can't be.. It was clear that it is the GeForce.
So what? I downloaded the MSI 61.21 (cause there was no higher version in august), uninstalled the nVidia 61.77, and installed the MSI driver. No Shader Model 3.0 with the driver.. crap.
Running 3Dmark03 again.. hmm freezing screen is gone.. but there is a crack in the sound all the time. I hate it! What now?
I came to this forum, and checked other guys problems. I found out, that the original bios is CRAP, and it causes every problem which I was experiencing.
I saved my original bios, and flashed the card with nVidia's reference bios, and put back nvidia 61.77. Every single problem was gone, BUT the card did get a lower gpu speed. 400 mhz instead of msi factory standard 425. I thought "nevermind".
But! A new driver came from MSI, I installed it as fast as I found it on the web.
There were no problems. But there is a D.O.T. tab.. hmm. Let's try it!
Overclocking: Well, it's a GeForce 6800 Ultra, let's go to 10%, why not?
It's ok for the memories, but not for the GPU! It generates little artifacts on the screen! Put back to 8%... hmm, ok, but I don't get what I can with the driver, and I don't even get what I want!
And remember, the default GPU speed with this bios is 400 mhz!
What would overclocking do with the default BIOS at 425 mhz? 4% D.O.T. and the card crashes? Or what? This is lame man.
Why do you integrate this into the driver, if the 6800 ultra users can't even use it correctly?
Why don't you develop an updated bios for the card? It's about time man, and about time for a new liveupdate version too! The 3.6x doesn't work with it!
Why don't you reply for the users answers at support? They payed money for your company where you work!
Did you even read this post, or just scrolled down and running through it?
All I want to say with all these, that:
1. The card out of the box doesn't work properly. The original bios is a bug.
2. You have to search for others bioses and drivers, make a bootdisk and spend your expensive time with such lame things to replace the bios, and restart windows all the time.
3. You can't use the D.O.T. overclocking at max, because it is too much for the card, although there is a nice D.O.T. sticker on the box.. pathetic.
4. You get no support for your money... Just an updatet driver, which came a little late... Like a little piece of meat for the hungry animals in the zoo.. lol.
Besides these things, I really like this card. Not because it is MSI... because it is an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra!
With the original cooler I get 435/1200 stable. Nice, the memory speed is impressive, i think the card has good rams, i dunno which factory, Samsung or Hynix, but thanks to them! But, considering that the factory default is 425 for the GPU, the 435 is crap...
I hope I'll get better clock speeds after I installed some better cooler... Like Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5.
So: Thanks to nVidia , and none to MSI!
Well, I can tell you, that I don´t like to overclock the hardware (because my MSI GeForce 6800 Ultra is very fast at stock ). Yes, I flashed the BIOS with Nvidia BIOS revision 2 too, and the default clock is 400, I wanted to go to MSI stock clocks, so, the 2D core clock was the same (400) and I changed the 3D clock to 425, the mem clock is OK (1.1). I tried overclocking the card just to see how far It can go, and the max was for the core 445 (2D and 3D), and for mem 1.20. Runs stable and without artifacts, but anyway, then I changed again to MSI defaults Core (2D 400, 3D 425), Mem (1.10), that´s really enough for me, this monster runs like hell, excellent!!!

Intel Xeon E5640 VS E5649 for VMWARE

Hello,
I am new to virtualization and working on getting a server for my lab to try out VMWARE. I am planning on getting a dual processor, 24GB, 1TB SAS, HP Proliant DL380 server. I have two options for the CPU. Intel Xeon E5640 (4 core) 2.66GHZ and Intel E5649 (6 core) 2.53GHZ. What would be better for virtualization? more cores or better clock speed?
Initially I will be installing lab Cisco Call manager on this server. Later I might add few more VMs.
Thank you

I would choose more core
Most of the time speed ins't an issue for lab
You just need to run more VMs
Sent from Cisco Technical Support iPhone App

Is there a significant difference between the 2.5 GHz i5 and 2.9 GHz i7 processor?

I'm going to be using my computer for grad school, so I'll be using multiple internet windows plus the Apple versions of Microsoft office all at once. I'll also be using the computer to watch Netflix. No gaming or movie-making or anything like that. So, what kind of difference would the upgraded processor make for me? I feel like upgrading it would be a waste for me because I'm using pretty basic stuff, but I could be wrong.

2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7
vs
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Higher clock speed
2.9 GHz
vs
2.5 GHz
More than 15% higher clock speed
More l3 cache
4 MB
vs
3 MB
Around 35% more l3 cache; more data can be stored in the l3 cache for quick access later
Supports trusted computing
Yes
vs
No
Allows for safer, more reliable computing
Better 3DMark11 physics score
5,140
vs
3,130
Around 65% better 3DMark11 physics score
Better turbo clock speed
1,250 MHz
vs
1,100 MHz
Around 15% better turbo clock speed
More l3 cache per core
2 MB/core
vs
1.5 MB/core
Around 35% more l3 cache per core
Better PassMark (Single core) score
1,790
vs
1,524
More than 15% better PassMark (Single core) score
Better 3DMark06 CPU score
4,134
vs
3,553
More than 15% better 3DMark06 CPU score
Better PassMark score
4,543
vs
3,823
Around 20% better PassMark score
Slightly better geekbench (32-bit) score
5,849
vs
4,947
Around 20% better geekbench (32-bit) score
Better clock speed
3.25 GHz
vs
2.88 GHz
Around 15% better clock speed
Slightly better PassMark score
1,823.4
vs
1,623.4
More than 10% better PassMark score

Good install here!

Had a good install on my MBP 2.16, 2gb RAM, 250gb HD. I did do a superduper backup prior to the install but I did NOT stop some of my "extensions".
I thought I might be hosed but they worked fine.
I'm running the following little addons:
MenuMeters - Gives CPU activity in menu
YouControl Desktops - virtual desktops (now have spaces too!)
YouControl - Hot spot menu
Meridian - Better clock
A better finder rename - Now appears in the "more" menu
LaunchBar - Quick launcher
SMCFanControl
I've tested Entourage, Excel, Parallels 3.x 5160, FireFox, RealBasic2007 R4, iChat.
Everything seems to be working well!
Thanks Apple!
All of the above are functioning fine.

Doing a happy Snoopy dance here as well. Installed in 40 minutes which surprised me as I wiped the drive and started fresh. Other versions took over an hour.
Have not installed any 3rd party apps yet but have noticed a minor annoyance...
I cannot import my Address book backup. I thought I'd be able to to just dump it from my iPhone back into Address Book but I can't find a way to do that. I reached for the backup I made last night...it did nothing. No big deal, I booted back into Tiger (Used Super Duper to clone my drive last night) and went into Address Book and exported another version of the database. Boot back into Leopard...open AB, try to import...nothing.
Anyone have idea how to get my addresses back?
Off to se now if Adobe CS 3 works **crossing fingers.**

N660Ti-2GD5/OC VS N660Ti PE 2GD5

Hoping someone can help with the subject comparison. I recently ordered the N660Ti PE 2GD5 edition card, but the online shop sent me the N660Ti-2GD5/OC instead. I have asked them to exchange for the correct card, but they are refusing, despite my order clearly being for the PE edition.
What are the differences between these cards? My long term strategy was to pick up a second card and run in SLI; will there be a performance drop with the OC card opposed to the PE. Should I pick up a PE as the second card, or stick with the same?
Any advice will be appreciated.

1: ok both use the same GPU type so in that regard there the same <--- no difference there
2: the PE has a boost clock of 980MHz and the /OC one has a boost clock of 1019.5MHz (39.5MHz more) <--- the N660Ti-2GD5/OC is better clock wise
3: the RAM on both Cards is the same in both quantity and Frequency <--- no difference there
4: the N660Ti PE 2GD5 has MSI's Twin Frozr IV cooler with 2 cooling fans and the N660Ti-2GD5/OC only has a single but larger and thicker fan in the middle <--- maybe the Twin Frozr one would perform a little better by a few degrees but i usually find a larger single fan is quieter
5: the N660Ti PE 2GD5 has a custom PCB with more power delivery where as from what i can see the N660Ti-2GD5/OC is running a Nvidia Reference design board <--- the PE has Much better power delivery then the one there pushing onto you
the 2 models differ in price too the one they sent you is cheaper by about $5 US if i was you i would lodge a formal complaint with them for failure to deliver on your purchase agreement and demand the product you ordered (but thats just me)!

Eclipse sli full board chipset water blocks?

Hi, I'm new to the these forums, but not a new MSI customer. I've had my eclipse sli since march '09 and was running everything @ stock. A couple of months ago a finally got around to OC'ing and noticed my IOH temps idling between 95-100c and 105-110c under load. I have since set everything back to stock and started searching for solutions, which led me to this thread. I have done the mod( HR-05 on IOH and I cut the heatsink for the ICH, I trust MSI boards.) and am pleased to report that my new IOH temps are 49-51c idle and 53-55c load. The strange thing is that my board seems to be clocking better because now with the stock heatsink I'm @ 3.5 with 1.26v stable whereas before the mod I was @ 1.3v stable on a custom loop. Which leads me to a question, sorry for being long winded and I'm not even sure if this is the right thread to ask it in but, Seeing that my lower IOH temps have given me the potential for a better clock I would like to add the IOH and ICH into the new loop I'm trying to put together, but I've looking all over for a full chipset waterblock for my eclipse sli and can't find any. Do they exist? Are they in production? or Are there any alternatives? Suggestions?

prymal, rename the title to suit your needs.
>> Posting Guide <<
I'll split and move this one to OC & Modding Corner.

GTX 980 Gaming specs to compare 780 Ti Gaming

hello all MSI members
i just must come here and complain new nvidia 980 gtx Gaming card specs,bcoz i think thouse are poor.
if we check 780ti Gaming card specs and compare thouse 980 Gaming cards specs,different is big.
980 Gaming cards is oc'd too small,i think 1300 MHzis fine.980 Gaming oc'ed only for 1216 MHz,not so much.
780 Ti Gaming is excellent card,but i dont buy it bcoz i wait 980 Gaming card,but noe,i'm dissapointment
780Ti Gaming beat 980 Gaming cardl..
check urself ht1p://www.techpowerup.com and check MSI 780 Ti Gaming and GTX 980
make GTX 980 Gaming S,and higher clocks 1300/1415 was very nice.
now EVGA 980 SC is better clocked and i thnk about it.
well i still trust MSI and maybe update 980 Gaming new card cominh still and of coz 980 lightning,but
remembe, silence is VERY important.
all best all!

The reviews show a 40% power reduction on the cores at a only marginal increase in performance.
From the "Nvidia GTX980 review roundup - A generational leap in power efficiency" article
Quote
The 900 series cards have notably higher clock speeds than the GTX 780, and each CUDA core is 40% more efficient, which makes up for the smaller number of cores. The new Maxwell architecture is also dramatically more power efficient than Kepler—the 980 can deliver 30 gigaflops per watt, versus just 15 gigaflops per watt for the 680 and 780. That's allowed Nvidia to bring the card's thermal design point down to 195 watts, and to once again run off two 6-pin connectors.

Is the 2.9 GHz i5 iMac sufficient for dual monitors?

I am in the market for a new iMac. I will be doing photo editing for the most part with iPhoto, some video editing with iMovie, and would like to have a dual monitor setup so I can multitask or watch movies while I work. Will the 2.9 GHz i5 suffice, with 8 gigs of RAM, or do I really need to go all out for that kind of use?
I may get into Aperture, Lightroom or Elements in the future, but photo and video editing will not be a common task.
Thanks for the help
-J

2.9GHz dual-core Intel Core i7
vs
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Higher clock speed
2.9 GHz
vs
2.5 GHz
More than 15% higher clock speed
More l3 cache
4 MB
vs
3 MB
Around 35% more l3 cache; more data can be stored in the l3 cache for quick access later
Supports trusted computing
Yes
vs
No
Allows for safer, more reliable computing
Better 3DMark11 physics score
5,140
vs
3,130
Around 65% better 3DMark11 physics score
Better turbo clock speed
1,250 MHz
vs
1,100 MHz
Around 15% better turbo clock speed
More l3 cache per core
2 MB/core
vs
1.5 MB/core
Around 35% more l3 cache per core
Better PassMark (Single core) score
1,790
vs
1,524
More than 15% better PassMark (Single core) score
Better 3DMark06 CPU score
4,134
vs
3,553
More than 15% better 3DMark06 CPU score
Better PassMark score
4,543
vs
3,823
Around 20% better PassMark score
Slightly better geekbench (32-bit) score
5,849
vs
4,947
Around 20% better geekbench (32-bit) score
Better clock speed
3.25 GHz
vs
2.88 GHz
Around 15% better clock speed
Slightly better PassMark score
1,823.4
vs
1,623.4
More than 10% better PassMark score

Can BootCamp beta be installed on Tiger by setting the clock back?

Hello
I have a MacBook, it is about one year old. I have been running BootCamp on with with XP Pro/SP2 since the day I got it, and it has always worked fine.
Now, however, for a few reasons, I want to wipe my hard drive clean completely - set the partitions back to being one partition, format everything, install Tiger, install BootCamp, install XP, etc.
I am concerned about BootCamp though, as the beta has expired and I don't intend on getting Leopard anytime soon.
If I try to open the BootCamp assistant, it obviously says that it's expired. I've often heard that you can get around it by setting the system clock back to 2007. I did so, and I got the following common error message:
"The startup disk cannot be partitioned or restored to a single partion..."
I've read that this usually means that there's something wrong with the way your partitions are set up...but I have only two partitions, the OSX partition and the XP partition as the BootCamp Assistant itself set up a year ago. I've never had any trouble booting into Windows, and I've never had any problem with BootCamp before this. I don't know what could be causing this, but I'm thinking if I'm going to wipe the entire hard drive clean, I might as well just use disk utility to delete the XP partition and go from there.
But I don't want to wipe my hard drive if I can't use BootCamp again afterwards, so my real question is this: If I wipe my hard drive completely, install OSX, and then
1.Set the system clock back to 2007
2.Install BootCamp Beta
3.Run BootCamp Assistant to make the partitions, install XP
4.After XP Installation, set the OSX clock back to its appropriate time
WILL THAT WORK?
I need a definitive answer to this, and it's no, is there any other way I can accomplish what I'm trying to do?

Yes that should work, I have tried a similar thing in the past.
See also http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1309
"Boot Camp Beta: Removing a Windows partition after Boot Camp Beta has expired in Mac OS X 10.4"

A better way to execute a series of external commands?

Hi,
Consider the code snippet...
Process proc1 = rt.exec("Some external command");
Vector vecOutput = outputGobbler.getOutput() ;
String[] strAlterCmds = new String[vecOutput.size()];
for ( int k = 0 ; k < vecOutput.size() ; k++ )
strAlterCmds[k] = new String();
strAlterCmds[k] = "cmd.exe /c blah.... " +(String) vecOutput.elementAt( k )+ " ;
Process proc2 = rt.exec(strAlterCmds[k], null);
StreamGobbler errorG = new
StreamGobbler( proc2.getErrorStream(), "Error") ;
StreamGobbler outputG = new
StreamGobbler( proc2.getInputStream(), "Output") ;
errorG.start() ;
outputG.start() ;
int exitVal1 = proc2.waitFor();
The second part of the execution is taking AGES and I am not sure forking a new process for runtime execution is the best alternative here.
I would be glad if someone can point me to a smarter solution.
In short: I intend to execute a series of commands using RTE depending on the values I get in the loop.
Thanks.

Jared,
Thank you for responding to my posted message. Rendezvous is a new concept to me, maybe
it's the solution to my problem. I have been trying to read the on line manual and
example VIs from National Instruments website. I still have a hard time to understand
the concept.
One of the example I saw is using rendezvous to run some sub VIs. But in my case, I have
only one VI that is a while loop. Inside the while loop, there are a few tasks running
simultaneously. I don't know whether it will serve my purpose.
Guangde Wang
Jared O'Mara wrote:
> Guangde,
>
> Referring to your 2nd method, use rendezvous (under advanced>>synchronize
> on function palette) to synchronize two processes. There are good examples
> that come with labview. basically, you cre
ate a rendezvous, giving it a
> size. Using the wait on rendezvous vi, a function will not continue until
> all rendezvous have reached that point. Using this method, you can synchronize
> your 2 while loops.
>
> Jared
>
> Guangde Wang wrote:
> >I tried two ways to control the tempo of my program.>>One is to use the
> While Loop's counter and a wait. The drawback of this>method is the cycle
> length is dependent on the measuring load. So if the>program runs for days,
> it will be significent off the real time.>>The other way is to use the difference
> of the Tick Count. It provides>accurate timing but the problem is the sychronization
> of the clock cycle>and the While Loop cycle. I can try to put a little bit
> wait but still>can not sychronize them very well. So after a while, there
> will be two>measures get together.>>I don't know whether there are some better
> ways to control the program>or whether we have some ways to improve either
> or both of the above
two>methods to make them work better. Please let me
> know if you have any>suggestion.>>Thank you in advance,>>Guangde Wang>

A better clock....?

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