A bit of gossip from enemy lines. . .

Question

I'm sure a few of you are aware of Digidesign's 3 day old release of their newest PT LE product line - the 003 systems, meant to replace the 002 systems.
First, before I get into things, a quick rundown. The 003 system is basically a 002 cosmetic facelift with a few minor improvements. The 003r now has 2 headphone jacks instead of 1, dedicated word clock, preamps with 6dB more headroom. . . aaaannnddddd. . . a new faceplate.
The 003 now has all of that, plus a jog wheel. Can we all shout "yay?" This has stirred up quite a bit of dissention in the Pro Tools camp. Dedicated PT users were expecting VAST improvements, such as an increase in preamps, an 9th fader for the 003, expansion slots, track count increases for the LE systems, etc. PT users are fairly ****** from what I can tell. I've been monitoring the forums a bit, and I've found over the last few days that all of the sudden, the dedicated PT base (now, before the PT users on here bash me with an iron kettle, I am a PT user myself. I like Pro Tools. I use it on a daily basis. I use Logic as well. I like Logic better (for most things at least) and I use LOGIC on a daily basis, so, I am not a Pro Tools hater by any means) the dedicated PT base is talking about how Digi has pretty much thrown up the white flag to Steve Jobs and the onslaught of Leopard, a possibly looming Logic 8, and Apple's partnership with Apogee.
Talk of Logic 8 and the possibility of its potential "PT Killer" status has gotten to the point where nearly every post concerning the 003 systems makes mention of Logic and how the partnership with Apogee is looking really good. Now, these are some VERY dedicated PT users who are VERY ****** with Digi. I am personally rather annoyed with them myself, as I would like a system that isn't as choked and limited as PT LE. I'd like to have a ProTools system that ran as efficiently as Logic without having to drop 20 grand (at the moment at least) on an HD system.
Here's the big part - Apple is known for doing things right (i.e. the iPod, iPhone, iMac, OSX, native integration with Windows. . . and. . . oh yeah, the personal computer in general). This is Apple's chance to fire the crippling blast across the bow of Avid's audio flagship. The have the chance to make Logic 8 a MUST HAVE upgrade to Logic 7, all the while totally using to the fullest their partnership with Apogee to take Apple audio systems to the level they are meant to be at. Dissention grow within the Avid camp. Apple took video away, now its time to take audio away. The hardcore users on this forum know of Logic's potential. . . let us all pray that Apple shares our sentiments.
Leave whatever thoughts may come to your mind. I just thought someone might find interest in the thoughts that have been bouncing around in mine.
LA.

Answer 1

I'm sure a few of you are aware of Digidesign's 3 day
old release of their newest PT LE product line - the
003 systems, meant to replace the 002 systems.
First, before I get into things, a quick rundown.
The 003 system is basically a 002 cosmetic facelift
with a few minor improvements. The 003r now has 2
headphone jacks instead of 1, dedicated word clock,
preamps with 6dB more headroom. . . aaaannnddddd. .
. a new faceplate.
The 003 now has all of that, plus a jog wheel. Can
we all shout "yay?" This has stirred up quite a bit
of dissention in the Pro Tools camp. Dedicated PT
users were expecting VAST improvements, such as an
increase in preamps, an 9th fader for the 003,
expansion slots, track count increases for the LE
systems, etc. PT users are fairly ****** from what I
can tell. I've been monitoring the forums a bit, and
I've found over the last few days that all of the
sudden, the dedicated PT base (now, before the PT
users on here bash me with an iron kettle, I am a PT
user myself. I like Pro Tools. I use it on a daily
basis. I use Logic as well. I like Logic better
(for most things at least) and I use LOGIC on a daily
basis, so, I am not a Pro Tools hater by any means)
the dedicated PT base is talking about how Digi has
pretty much thrown up the white flag to Steve Jobs
and the onslaught of Leopard, a possibly looming
Logic 8, and Apple's partnership with Apogee.
Talk of Logic 8 and the possibility of its potential
"PT Killer" status has gotten to the point where
nearly every post concerning the 003 systems makes
mention of Logic and how the partnership with Apogee
is looking really good. Now, these are some VERY
dedicated PT users who are VERY ****** with Digi. I
am personally rather annoyed with them myself, as I
would like a system that isn't as choked and limited
as PT LE. I'd like to have a ProTools system that
ran as efficiently as Logic without having to drop 20
grand (at the moment at least) on an HD system.
Here's the big part - Apple is known for doing things
right (i.e. the iPod, iPhone, iMac, OSX, native
integration with Windows. . . and. . . oh yeah, the
personal computer in general). This is Apple's
chance to fire the crippling blast across the bow of
Avid's audio flagship. The have the chance to make
Logic 8 a MUST HAVE upgrade to Logic 7, all the while
totally using to the fullest their partnership with
Apogee to take Apple audio systems to the level they
are meant to be at. Dissention grow within the Avid
camp. Apple took video away, now its time to take
audio away. The hardcore users on this forum know of
Logic's potential. . . let us all pray that Apple
shares our sentiments.
Leave whatever thoughts may come to your mind. I
just thought someone might find interest in the
thoughts that have been bouncing around in mine.
LA.
Well.one of the many posts I got deleted BEFORE the 003, was that this was the time for APPLE to act and make LOGIC run PT sessions and even has a emulation mode that looks, works and feels like PT's, a skin if you will, while at the same time offering, ADC, and Surround, which it does already.
I am one of the posters over there as well, and will tell you my user name, but will give you a hint, I posted that now that Apple has the iPODS wrapped up, iPhones wrapped up, Intel transition over, (they can always use AMD as well, since AMD is supposed to have a duo core killer (KL9) and Apple has always been AMD's hypertransport partner, and Leapord about done, it is time to focus on both the PROsumer and PRO audio/video lines.
Take Avid/Digi out of the picture with one STRONG BLOW!
And Apple has the know-how on how to do this.
Logic is Logic, but why not make logic able to open PT sessions or better yet, a skin that looks and works like PT, basically LOGIC PT....that would be the final nail. I'm not sure legally how much they can do, but a skin is a skin, that's all and one could argue that the end user prefers the offerings of LOGIC but needs the PT skin (LOL).
I think this can be done!
GO APPLE!