A bit tricky question!!!!!!!

i have 1 smart playlist, and 1 regular playlist on my ipod. i have been trying to make all songs in the playlists excluded (not play) when i shuffle the rest, but at the same time when i choose to play any of the 2 playlists i want all the songs in them to play, not just the first one.
i know that if i choose the playlists songs to "skip when shuffling = no" this will play all songs in a playlist, but it would still play them if i shuffle the rest of the songs on my ipod, the ones that don't belong to any playlist.
i want to keep my playlists as an "on-demand play" and not included when i play non-playlist songs. and at the same time, i want them all to be played when chosen to.
i hope i am making sense here. anybody got an idea?
thanks for the help.

Not sure I understand, but I've seen other posts where people say only the first song of a playlist will play.
The workaround for this is to sort the playlist a different way (click on the Track #, Artist, Rating, or some other column header). Then click it back to the sort order you want, which is usually the left-most column with just numbers in it, and it should work.

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