A few simple tips and questions. Neo2 system XP re-install, which audio drivers?

My questions:
I'm re-installing my XP Pro system because I have decided I don't want to go with a 2GB primary partition as my first partition. Here are my questions.
1) Should I update from 1.4 to BIOS 1.5 ?
2) Which audio drivers should I use? nVidia Driver package 4.57? Or the Realtek ALCXXX_73 from nVidia website? Last time I actually accidentally installed the 4.60 audio MCP driver from the nForce 4 standalone package 6.39, but alas the sound was fine. (perhaps a little strange seeing as how my Neo2 is nForce3 and the 4.60 was from the nForce4 package.
Which audio drivers should I install?
3) What is nVidia nTune, what can I do with it and should I bother with it?
4) Which Catalyst driver should I install? The 29.7 MB driver with Catalyst Control Center or the 23.1 MB driver with Control Panel. Whats the difference and should I care?
I'll be using MSI update, keeping the windows IDE drivers, I may use the "speedfan" program but no digicell and no corecenter.
thanx,
My tips, See below:
0) Do your first install with a minimum of hardware installed (add your PCI cards later)
1) Research here for the proper BIOS settings for stable first boot and system install.
-Disable Agressive Timings in BIOS
-Turn Off NV/ATI Speedup in hidden BIOS
2) Install XP and SP2
3) install video drivers
4) Install nVidia UDP 5.10 (preferably without audio) and don't install the nVidia IDE drivers, just keep the XP drivers. (Use the XP windows IDE drivers) I used the nVidia LAN and it worked fine.
5) Install Zone Alarm (or your prefered software firewall) and then hook up LAN, preferably behind a router
6) Windows update once you have internet working
7) Install AMD Athlon 64 processor driverv1.1.0.18
8) Install audio drivers

Thanx 10-4 on that one. I edited my system install to reflect your idea by inserting Zone Alarm install BEFORE connecting to the internet. As an aside, I have a router which our PC's are connected to, so I'm reasonably safe for a few minutes
Also, I won't really be installing the ATI Catalyst drivers now, as I'm just using a Gforce2 GTS 32MB AGP for now and XP Pro installs perfectly adequate drivers. When I get my card back from ATI I'll install the Catalyst drivers then. I'd still like some advice on which driver to install when I do though
Anyone have any other tips in regards to my questions?

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    Other Hardware: Other  hardware in your computer plays a role in the ability to feed or store  audio data quickly.  CPUs are so fast, and with multiple cores, capable  of spreading the load so often the bottleneck for good performance -  especially at high sample rates - tends to be your hard drive or storage  media.  It is highly recommended that you configure your temporary  files location, and session/recording location, to a physical drive that  is NOT the same as you have your operating system installed.  Audition  and other DAWs have absolutely no control over what Windows or OS X may  decide to do at any given time and if your antivirus software or system  file indexer decides it's time to start churning away at your hard drive  at the same time that you're recording your magnum opus, you raise the  likelihood of losing some of that performance.  (In fact, it's a good  idea to disable all non-essential applications and internet connections  while recording to reduce the likelihood of external interference.)  If  you're going to be recording multiple tracks at once, it's a good idea  to purchase the fastest hard drive your budget allows.  Most cheap  drives spin around 5400 rpm, which is fine for general use cases but  does not allow for the fast read, write, and seek operations the drive  needs to do when recording and playing back from multiple files  simultaneously.  7200 RPM drives perform much better, and even faster  options are available.  While fragmentation is less of a problem on OS X  systems, you'll want to frequently defragment your drive on Windows  frequently - this process realigns all the blocks of your files so  they're grouped together.  As you write and delete files, pieces of each  tend to get placed in the first location that has room.  This ends up  creating lots of gaps or splitting files up all over the disk.  The act  of reading or writing to these spread out areas cause the operation to  take significantly longer than it needs to and can contribute to  glitches in playback or loss of data when recording.

    There is one point in the above that needed a little clarification, relating to USB mics:
    _durin_ wrote:
     If  USB microphones are your only option, then I would recommend making  certain you purchase a high-quality one and have an equally high-quality  playback device.
    If you are going to spend that much, then you'd be better off putting a little more money into an  external device with a proper mic pre, and a little less money by not  bothering with a USB mic at all, and just getting a 'normal' condensor  mic. It's true to say that over the years, the USB mic class of  recording device has caused more trouble than any other, regardless.
    You  should also be aware that if you find a USB mic offering ASIO support,  then unless it's got a headphone socket on it as well then you aren't  going to be able to monitor what you record if you use it in its native  ASIO mode. This is because your computer can only cope with one ASIO device in the system - that's all the spec allows. What you can do with most ASIO hardware though is share multiple streams (if the  device has multiple inputs and outputs) between different software.
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    garageband- (number of real tracks it can take, up to 8)
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    Then HE sent the invite and it worked. Great, we were chatting no problem. So I open Garageband and tried to record. Only one chat track. It has both of our voices, but only one track. Tried, new track, new basic track, new podcast track, and they were all the same. They were also all chosen with the "real instrument" choice because of the input from the mic.
    Now this is my set-up. For audio "in" I have a logitech USB mic going into a USB Griffin PowerWave. The PowerWave also controls my "Out" to which I have 2 crappy external speakers that I picked up free from a friend.
    The reason I am using a PowerWave for "in and out" is because A- I record a lot of vinyl and analog sources into my computer and the PowerWave has the best input/output solution short of getting any M-Audio products which I'm too broke to get. And B- my Apple Pro Speakers had the prong on the jack snap off in the speaker audio out jack, leaving me with only headphones for audio out. (with the prong stuck in the speaker jack the computer will think the speakers are still plugged in and won't play via "built in audio", but anything plugged into the headphone jack will over-ride that.) The Griffin PowerWave is connected via USB and works right around all of that.
    Now I do have 2 choices for "Audio in" in my sys prefs. one is the PowerWave (which I choose when recording a source like a stereo or record player) and one is the Logitech mic. I choose the logitech mic (even though it's connected to and playing THROUGH the PowerWave (the PowerWave also has USB "in") it still reads as a seperate input source. For "Out" I have built-in, and the PowerWave, I choose the PowerWave cause thats where my external speakers are connected.
    So I was able to do the chat, but NOT get multiple tracks for multiple chats to work.
    Here is my system configuration as well as audio configuration.
    Dual 800 MGHZ G4 quicksilver.
    896 Ram
    Cable Modem Connection (comcast)
    OS X- 10.4.8
    GB- 3.0.4 (104.7)
    iChat- 3.1.5 (v436)
    IN-
    Logitech USB Mic- connected via "USB in" to Griffin PowerWave
    Griffin PowerWave- connected via USB to G4
    OUT-
    Griffin PowerWave- connected via USB
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    http://www.welovemacs.com/3254pwrw.html
    It's a BIG Step up from a iMic in terms of availible connectivity both in and out. It's about 3 years old and Griffin does not make them anymore. Most people now are using USB 2.0 or Firewire audio boxes to get multiple input and oputput connections for the Mac and various instruments.
    So after all that, my question is, what could I be doing wrong? The Apple article(s) mention nothing about internal or external Mics. Is it my settings? Is it because it was done in AIM and iChat, not just 2 macs and iChat like the experiment in the store? I think I've done everything right, but still only ONE chat track somes up. Also I have done chats in Skype, as well as Ventrillo (while gaming) with this set up, so I know it works, I'm just trying to figure out how to get the multiple chat tracks. Please give me some advice. Thanks in advance.
    Keith M

    Alrighty-
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    Hello everybody,
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    package objectIO;
    import java.io.*;
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         * @exception IOException Can not read the file
          public static void main(String[] args)  throws IOException
              a loop could be used here to create more than one
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              int  g;
              String c;
              for (int i =0; i < mary.grades.length ; i++)
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                  Datainput stream can read String
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    2) at this line the program never ends, it tries continuously to read characters... no matter what I enter it does not complete... I want to read a String from keyboard, but again using DataInputStream...
    Many thanks in advance (and hopefully now I can assign the offered 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    don1983p wrote:
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    The problem was they kept insisting they could not simply return/void out the in-store 9/9 transaction of ~$363 because it was over 1 month and closed.  They also said they could not simply refund the $450 prepaid amount because the system was showing it was already applied to the in-store pickup transaction, even though the receipts, my CC statement all clearly show the in-store transaction was NOT reduced by the $450 prepaid amount. 
    Now here's where things get ugly, one manager, Nucleo, was called over and simply did not have any intent to help.  One of the employees I would prefer not to name said they believed he just didn't know how to fix the problem and they would prefer to just go to their General Manager, Dave.  Dave was busy on Saturday, I am sure, so it took him some time to come over, but he genuinely seemed interested in fixing the problem.  Together with Sheila, they came up with the solution of voiding out the in-store transaction manually, and then scanning a return for a $15 accessory item to make me whole on the interest I was charged.  They also said the prorated portion of the Reward Zone Certs of ~$87 would be refunded to my BB account within a few days.
    I thought that would be the end of it....until I checked my BB account a few days later and was shocked to see I had a NEGATIVE balance in RZ points.  Voiding the in-store transaction of $363 without refunding the $87 in RZ certs left me in a negative balance!  Again, I made my way to the Rockville BB store with all documentation in hand and this time, I packed up the PS4, which I had seldom-used at this point because I simply did not feel the transaction was completed.  I fully intended to just return the system and either wash my hands of this transaction, or return it and try to complete the transaction from scratch.
    This time, unfortunately, the GM Dave was not on duty, it was only Nucleo.  Sad to say, he actually provided better customer service when he tried to ignore the problem.  This time, he tried to indicate it was MY FAULT that I allowed myself to be charged twice, asking "what I want to know is, if you paid for it why did you let us charge your card again?".  I replied that it was a FLAW IN BB's SYSTEM and that I assumed HIS employees knew what they were doing because I simply do NOT PREORDER consoles on a weekly, monthly or even yearly cycle.  At this point, both of our voices and tempers were escalated, it was one of my most unpleasant in-store experiences especially knowing I was being wronged and this person Nucleo had no intention of trying to fix the problem caused by BB's system.  In all of this transaction, this dealing with Nucleo is the only reason I am writing this post now, I feel everyone else did their best to try and fix the problem, but this guy is just in the wrong business because his customer service skills are awful.  Ultimately the visit ended with no resolution, the employees that had been helpful throughout (Alan, Amber, and one other tall younger man) insisted the certs of $87 would get credited back in a few days and the credits for the original $450 prepaid would also come but may take longer after they spoke with MyBB reps on the phone.
    So I waited patiently for another 2-3 weeks and the points from both the prorated $87 rewards (original $95) and the estimated 2250 points ($45) from the 10% $450 prepaid amount had still not yet arrived.  When they didn't, I took a different tack and contacted MyBB Elite.  The rep was responsive and understanding, and it took a good 10 minutes for her to get her bearings while I explained the situation.  I also provided all of my documentation and she was able to verify and document it in her notes.  She immediately re-issued or pushed through the $87 in Reward Zone certs from the refunded in-store transaction while I was on the phone, and said the remainder $450 was also in process and should come through in 5-8 business days.
    I had to call 2 more times, both times the reps insisted the $450 prepaid was still in process and approved, but it was most likely the same glitch that prevented the prepaid from being applied properly, it simply could not get points attached to it because it was counted as part of another transaction.  The 3rd time I spoke with a supervisor/escalation rep and they said the transaction would be funded.
    Finally, I called up again a few weeks ago and was at my wit's end because I still did not see a resolution.  Somehow, this rep was able to push the amount through which was $45.  It was unattached to the original transaction as just Customer Satisfaction.  Throughout this experience, I do feel everyone was interested in trying to get this resolved for me except for Nucleo, who really tried to make me feel like this entire ordeal was MY FAULT.  The BB rep on the phone apologized and said she hoped this had not impacted my willingness to shop at BB in the future, but I answered frankly, that it has impacted my willingness negatively, as there was numerous deals on various tech toys and gifts in the last few months that I simply did not feel good about making at BB due to this experience.
    I wanted to post this so that you can use this feedback as it shows how quickly someone's opinion and preferences can change on a single bad shopping experience.  And while I am not one who is going to take a faux-stand and say I will never shop at BB again, I will certainly look at more alternatives rather than going to BB for certain buying habits in the future.  Oh, and someone should speak with Nucleo, he is absolutely in the wrong line of business.
    Thanks for reading!  I will be happy to provide any documentation or member # via PM for your verification if you are interested.  Some of the dollar amounts are rough/estimated as this transaction is now so old it no longer appears on my recent 3 month history.
    Regards,
    Jerry

    Dear Jerry,
    Thank you for coming to us on the forums and sharing your recent tribulations around this purchase. I can fully empathize with your disappointment in the treatment you spoke of in your post as I have experienced this with other retailers in the past as well. Any frustration this lengthy experience may have caused you is completely understandable. For something that seems like it should be so simple from a customer standpoint like correcting rewards points, can sometimes not be so cut and dry on the other side of things.
    I had the pleasure of being a manager in our stores for a couple years before I came to work at the corporate level. There were interactions that challenged my knowledge level and my patience in that time, but I was always working to educate the customer and leave them feeling heard and appreciated. This should be the goal of all of our managers to express through their words and actions with our customers. My apologies if you didn’t witness this in your exchanges with Nucleo. I can fully empathize with your disappointment with the treatment you spoke of in your post as I have experienced this with other retailers in the past as well. Using your email address you supplied here on the forums, I was able to verify your interactions with our phone support and that your points issue appears to have been corrected. This process should not have taken as much effort and follow up on your part as it did. 
    The information regarding the preorder points issue you described has been documented here for review by the appropriate business teams. Your feedback has also been passed along to the General Manager at the Rockville, MD (store 293) location to be used for coaching and training with his team. Please don’t hesitate to reach out to us with any other questions or concerns. I am genuinely sorry that this occurrence has damaged your inclination to come to Best Buy for your technology needs, and I hope you will continue to visit our stores in the future. Your loyalty is much appreciated.
    Warmest regards,
    JD|Social Media Specialist | Best Buy® Corporate
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