A Final Cutter Tries Out Premiere Pro

I found this article on Creative Cow. An interesting read and an overall good review for Adobe.
Most of the good things will come as no surprise to longtime Premiere users, and most of the bad things are not so if you're already used to the way Adobe organizes (though in a few cases, not bad homework for the Adobe development team)! Enjoy.
http://library.creativecow.net/kobler_helmut/FCP-vs-Premiere-Pro/1

Some highlights for the busy FCP-to-PP wannbe.
" I was impressed with how much further ahead Premiere was compared to Final Cut 7 (importing native footage, the Mercury Engine's high performance, and tight integration with other must-have tools)."
"Premiere's overall layout is very Final Cut-esque."
"Adobe makes it easier for Final Cut users to try out Premiere, thanks to the inclusion of a template of keyboard shortcuts inspired by Final Cut"
"...it's very nice not to transcode media into ProRes."
"There's a dynamic Search field in the Project window. That's a little quick erand easier than Final Cut's clunky Find... function.
"Adobe has gotten religion about metadata. This is a nice improvement over Final Cut 7, which has virtually no inter-application metadata support (unless you're also using the now-cancelled Final Cut Server)."
"Premiere's editing tools work much like Final Cut's. All the essentials are there"
"If I had tried to do this effects-heavy work with After Effects and Final Cut, I think it would have taken me an extra 2-3 days of re-rendering and importing effects."
"When I imported a Photoshop file and edited it on Premiere's Timeline, any changes I later made to the file would also automatically reflect on the Timeline"
"I regularly uploaded small samples of my video to an FTP server for client review. Fortunately, doing all that was just as easy with Premiere."
"When I exported video from Premiere or from the Adobe Media Encoder, both apps sped things up considerably by using all the cores of my 8-core Mac Pro. That was very nice, after years of watching Compressor ignore most of my Mac's horsepower."
"When you export video directly from Premiere or use Media Encoder, you can embed the exported videos with a ton of metadata. Compressor can't touch that."
"I can definitely say that First Contact with Premiere was impressive and compelling. And beyond the application itself, I have a lot more confidence in Adobe's ability to deliver professional solutions than I do Apple's."

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Hello totally awesome community of hard working people who make cool things!
I am converting from Final Cut 7 to Premiere Pro CC. I've been in for 1 day and am impressed that many of the shortcuts are the same.
I have much to learn and am studying every day.
Do you have any recommendations for any great free video tutorial series on this software?
Thanks!
Check out the film I made with Final Cut 7. I'm excited about Premiere Pro CC because it will save me a lot of time!!
Beyond the Music: Soundscapes, El Sistema and the Proven Power of Music | Video Portal (El Sistema USA)

Hi soundscapes,
Here you go: http://tv.adobe.com/product/premiere-pro/
There are more on paid websites.
Thanks,
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I am posting this more as a question as to how to report hangs or console reports of PP crashes.
I have a Final Cut Pro project that I wanted to migrate to Premiere Pro using the XML route. When I import the XML from Final Cut, the app hangs with a series of console messages. I think it can't import the DVCPro HD audio and many of the filters used in the Final Cut Project also cause this hang.
On import, a rectangle dialog box appears with no content in it - just a white box. Then the pinwheel of death.
Here are some of the console messages:
11/21/14 10:50:24.289 AM Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014[1051]: Error loading /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin/Contents/MacOS/DVCPROHDAudio: dlopen(/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin/Contents/MacOS/DVCPROHDAudio, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin/Contents/MacOS/DVCPROHDAudio: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
11/21/14 10:50:24.290 AM Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014[1051]: Cannot find function pointer NewPlugIn for factory C5A4CE5B-0BB8-11D8-9D75-0003939615B6 in CFBundle/CFPlugIn 0x115488460 </Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/HAL/DVCPROHDAudio.plugin> (bundle, not loaded)
11/21/14 10:50:30.419 AM Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014[1051]: Unable to find filter reference documentation "".
11/21/14 10:51:20.658 AM Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014[1051]: NSAlert is being used from a background thread, which is not safe. This is probably going to crash sometimes. Break on void _NSAlertWarnUnsafeBackgroundThreadUsage() to debug. This will be logged only once. This may break in the future.
11/21/14 10:51:41.000 AM kernel[0]: Sandbox: sandboxd(1088) deny mach-lookup com.apple.coresymbolicationd
11/21/14 10:51:42.102 AM sandboxd[1088]: ([279]) coreaudiod(279) deny file-read-data /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/A52Codec.component
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Sort of a work around I am testing:
I have a cool script to open FCPro projects in AE. Sort of a free Automatic Duck. I was going to do this:
Remove all effects and proprietary tracks in FCPro, as some cause problems with this script. Trial and error here.
Use the free script FCP2AE to export to AE (it's hard to find now)
Open the timeline in AE via the script FCP2AE
Export that from AE as PPProCC 2014 project
Open in PPCC2014
That may work, it may also work just to remove all effects and then save the XML and open in PP CC 2014. Again sometimes it does work. The simpler the FCPro project the better.
Another option
I was able to open the FCPro audio only OMF in Audition. Then I exported via XML FCPro format from Audition and this opened the audio tracks in PPCC2014. The stereo tracks were broken and placed on two mono tracks so you'll have to address that one.

Exporting Final Cut prjects for Premiere Pro

Hello,
I wanted to know if some knows what would be the best and quickest way to export a project from final cut in a format that will allow me to import that file in Premiere. I know i can export the final cut project as a quciktime movie but that converting process takes FOREVER. I was wondering if there is a way around quick time.

Eddie points out something that will likely help you, though maybe not in time.
First, I'd make a complete backup of your FCP Project onto an external HDD - do not know FCP, so cannot help you with exactly the best way to do this. Get everything and keep the folder structure the same.
Though it does take time, I'd also do the .MOV Export from FCP, as the ultimate backup and a possible failsafe, should the CS4 4.1 still not get it right. You might have to convert your .MOV file outside of either FCP, or PrPro, but you will have it.
Last, if you've been a good student (and I'd guess that you have been), I'll bet that your instructor would grant you access to the lab's Mac and FCP, especially since this was a project for this semester. Now, if you are moving away from university, that might throw a monkeywrench into things, but if your local to the shcool, talk to your professor now, and make arrangements. I used my film school's editing booth for a few years after graduation with the department's permission - sweet, since time on an 8-plate Moviola was expensive as heck way back then.
Good luck, and make sure to get everything and I do mean EVERYTHING on your external HDD.
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SSD for OS, Final Cut X and Premiere Pro CS6?

We're looking at specs for new iMacs for our upcoming FY13 purchases. Our install will consist of Mac OS, Office 2011, Final Cut X, Motion, Compressor, CS6 Master Collection. Our process includes all video production being done using external drives. I'm trying to decide if the 256GB SSD internal drive option will be sufficient for the install we have in mind. I know all the software will fit, with plenty of room to spare, and we'd like to take advantage of the increased performance of a SSD boot drive, I'm just a little concerned about the capacity.
Maybe 256GB is perfectly fine since all production will be from and to external storage?
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Using the same media? Very likely.
Using the same project file? Possibly, but there could be issues. PP can both import and export FCP XML files, but it's far from a perfect translation for every possible sequence.

Trying to export into MP4 but premiere pro takes to long.

I am trying out premiere pro for the first time. I need to be able to export video into MP4. the video does eventually export but takes way too long. almost 15 minutes to export a 13 minute video. every export starts out fine until the file gets to 100% then it just sits there for a long time before finally finishing the export. is this because of my computer? In using a windows 7 with a intel core i5-3350 cpu @ 3.10ghz, 8.g ram 64 bit operating system. and a nividia graphics card

How many and what size/speed are your hard drives?
What effects have you applied to your edit, and what are you editing?
More information needed for someone to help... please click below and provide the requested information
-Premiere Pro Video Editing Information FAQ http://forums.adobe.com/message/4200840
CS5-thru-CC PPro/Encore tutorial list http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1448923 may help

What About Premiere Pro Export to Final Cut?

I went to a presentation about Adobe Fremont in about March. We were told that in April Premiere would be updated to enable export to Final Cut. I have seen nothing. I tried to call support, after talking to two guys evidently in India, I was put ON HOLD FOR ONE HOUR before I gave up.
I have a project to cut...I would like to a rough cut and pass it to my editor, who is on a Final Cut machine. Exporting an EDL does not work very well; all you can do is move an EDL with a single layer and no transitions.Obviously, being able to export to Final Cut would be a major plus for me. Adobe promised that they were going to do this...can anyone tell me what the heck is up?! Thanks!

pcford wrote:
The other day I was talking to a guy...experienced DP. I said that was editing with Premiere Pro...he made a bit of a face and said...as if informing someone who was not quite with it...that I could get a copy of Final Cut Express for not a lot of money. Never mind that if Final Cut Express is much like Premiere Pro Express it is pretty much a toy.
It's my turn to make the face...
I feel that the builders of Premiere Pro should not fear Final Cut...Premiere Pro is a great program. With Apple seemingly devoting energy into gadgets instead of their professional level tools, Adobe has the opportunity to attract more attention among professional video people. The BBC and the Tonight Show...among others are using our tool.
Being able to move both ways between Premiere Pro and Final Cut indicates they are peers...no need to be afraid of competition.
Thanks for the kind words - we agree. We've got many other wins in progress such as Hearst TV, Turner and others. Clearly Apple is focused on the iPhone (and they should be because it makes a lot of money!) and even hard core FCP'ers in a moment of honesty wonder about the long term future of FCP. I hope that none of our customers have that fear because they shouldn't.
Anyway....enough of this theorizing!!!....does anyone have any facts about export to Final Cut?
Here are the facts - Adobe has FCP export as a kind of beta and I have it loaded on my laptop. It is always our intention to 'play nice' with others which is why we already have FCP import and AAF import/export.
FCP export though is of less overall usefulness simply because FCP doesn't like anything other than QT. So, if you're shooting P2 MXF and you want to hand it over to a FCP editor, FCP is going to wig out.
Still, it is our intention to provide Premiere Pro to FCP integration in the future.

Microphone Issue using Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5

I have also posted this at the Adobe forums. I'm just hoping someone, somewhere can help.
I am a recent convert from Final Cut to Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5, mainly so I can start burning to blu-ray. I am finding the switch a frustrating experience. The latest issue I have is with audio recording. I have an external firewire mic set up that worked flawlessly with Final Cut for two years for recording commentary tracks. Yesterday, I tried recording a commentary track in Premiere Pro, and it worked fine for about an hour, at which point it suddenly stopped. Now I can only reocrd about 6 seconds of audio before it stops recording, and repeated attempts result in a "serious error" and Premiere crashing.
I have searched everywhere and tried everything I can think of. Restarted Premiere. Uninstalled/reinstalled premiere. Shut down/unplugged/replugged in C-1 microphone. Updated software. Restarted iMac. Nothing works. I am out of things to try, and hoping someone here might have a suggestion. I have tried using the iMac's internal microphone just as a test (since the quality of the recording would be unusuable for my purposes) and Premiere won't even use that for the six seconds it will the C-1.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

So, just in case anyone else is wondering, we never did solve this issue. However, we upgraded Soundbooth to Audition, and were able to move the project there and finish the commentary track. So, that's a workaround, anyway. (A workaround that did not work in Soundbooth).

Macbook Pro Retina 2014 Top Spec - Premiere Pro CC Graphics Card Issue

Hello,
For 12 months I have been having graphics card issues which all started on my 2011 MBP, which Apple replaced 12 months ago. I Then got a new shiny, 2013 highest end retina macbook pro from apple, in which after a couple of weeks had the exact same graphics issue. As soon as I start working in Premiere Pro with my 1080P DSLR footage, once the fans get up high, then the graphic colour hologram like start pooping on my screen. Now I got that retina replaced as I alerted apple about it, now they have given me the highest end 2014 model, and guess what? The problem is twice as bad.
I think it's definitely got something to do with the Apple software. It's weird though, because on the rare occasion, the graphic poop will show up on my screen when I am on Youtube (only once in a blue moon it does that) - it does it every single time 15-20 mins into editing with Premiere Pro, once the fans get hot. I can click on the graphics poop and it makes it disappear, which is weird, maybe that proves it software issue?
I don't know, but this problem has caused me to go through two of apples most powerful laptops, 60 phone calls to Apple, 1 investigation lodged to the Apple Engineers (the people who are above the Senior Apple Care Advisors) - Nothing seems to fix it, and I haven't been able to create any more intriguing films on my laptop because Premiere Pro CC just brings up all the graphics poop.
Screenshots:
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/653/IgdBK9.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9601/WLQYnM.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/152/EIFd22.jpg
Does anyone know what causes this exactly? How do I fix it?

JGFilm88
Thanks for the follow up information for my video card/graphics card question that came to mind out of curiosity.
I do not have Premiere Pro and am strictly and Elements Windows user. Otherwise I would look into this matter for you first hand. The place you want to be is in the Adobe Premiere Pro Forum, although, as you already mentioned, the screen display irregularities have appeared when Premiere Pro was not being used. Have you tried uninstalling Premiere Pro to determine if its removal from the computer resolves the screen display irregularities for whatever you are doing in the computer applications like iMovie? For that matter, do you see the problem in iMovies?
Just some thoughts to think about as you compose your inquiry for the Premiere Pro users in the Premiere Pro Forum.
Best wishes
ATR

Premiere Pro CS5.5 closes, but process in taskmanager doesn't

Windows 7, CS5.5.2
I had this happening to me a few times times, I click the x in the top right corner to close Premiere, it asks me to save my project, I click no and the program seems to close, nothing on the taskbar left either, but it's still there in the taskmanager as a 290MB process.
I discovered this when Premiere refused to start. Now I'm forced to close the process before I can start Premiere.
What's causing this?
It seems that more people had this problem:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2920945
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3248472
Some had it solved by updating the video driver, but since I already have the latest one (NVidia) I don't see how that's going to solve it. I also have the latest chipset and audio dirvers as of yesterday.

In one case I waited almost 15 min.
While I was away I have done some rigorous testing with Microsoft's driver verifier tool, the same tool they use to certify drivers. I have found two issues that I solved by removing two conflicting programs. The last diagnostics run of driver verifier was 100% successful. I also did a rigorous memory test and that didn't show any problems either. As a matter of fact I'm been amazed how stable my system is running for almost 2 years now and trust me, I stress it a lot by running applications like Photoshop, Illustrator, Cinema 4D, games and even Vmware. It's also not a system that is cluttered with all kind of junk, since I restore an image of the system partition every 3 months or so. The backup only contains the complete installation of my OS and software BEFORE use. A restore of this image before I posted my problem in this forum also didn't solve the issue
Anyway, after using driver verifier, I tried Premiere Pro again, closed it 3 times after fiddling with some videos and now after the 4th time I close the program I have the same issue as before: the program seems to close, the taskbar is empty, but again the task manager is showing the adobe premiere pro.exe process. That process is now still visible in task manager after about 10 minutes.
The only thing I could try now is cancelling all non-Microsoft processes and services and see if the problem still returns. I'm open for any other suggestions.
Mind you, I could solve this issue by writing a script that kills the process after I leave the program, but:
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b - It just camouflages the issue and I never feel good about that
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Hi,
I am new to Prelude and Premiere Pro, having used FCPX previously.
I have ingestedfootage into Prelude, made subclips of the footage and created a rough cut of the sequence.
I am trying to send the rough cut and clips to Premiere Pro, however the option under the File Menu to do this is greyed out. I am not sure what I have done incorrectly. The clips have all been ingested, the rough cut and project have been saved in Prelude.
I am using the current creative cloud versions of Prelude and Premiere Pro (as at 5 July 2013)
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

I have the same problem with
Macbook pro OS 10.9.1 Prelude CC 2.2.0 has " send to premiere" greyed out
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used to work before last upgrades.
have deleted all and all reloaded CC apps from scratch.
any solutions? It used to work.

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I just can't get PPro CC2014 to work. I have spent quite some time with tech support, and they have worked hard trying to figure out what the problem is. CC2014 does in fact start, I can edit, but I can't get PPro to quit, and therefore can't shut down my computer. Always hard shutdown. But before I go any further, I do need to thank Anand K, Rahul N, and Sarthak G. I know you all put in a lot of time, and your hard work is appreciated.
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1. Go to any folder, or "My computer"...
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