A humble request and (explanation) on full Flash s...

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We are living in the times when internet is in our pockets. Yet we have a crippled web browsing experience. Without full flash support, we are unable to do most of the work, communication, information gathering, nor enjoying entertainment sites.
In the modern days of internet where speed is the most important issue, website developers just can't deal with mobile versions of websites. Not even the biggest sites, like CNN have a capable and usable mobile site.
Yet, our Mobile phones, such as nokia 5800 (and also the rest of the communicator-like phones) with a serious browsing capability is discriminated because the websites recognize them as "mobile" phones. Most of the time you're not even able to browse the "normal" website and get the same experience to move around and even see the same information on your mobile phone.
I'm also experiencing browser application issues. Freezes, hungs, because the site cannot coop with the disabled flash light. It starts to load the data, you able to see the flash box and then the browser just stops working. After a long time of exercise on different sites, such as youtube I'm convinced that flash 10 even bring our browser to its knees. The new flash 10 videos totally killing the browser on my nokia phone. And this is not firmware, not memory nor website related problems. It's incompatibility where the site and the browser just unable to coop.
PLEASE NOKIA, TIME TO FIX AND UPDATE BROWSERS IN NOKIA SMART PHONES INCLUDING 5800!
GET RID OF DISCRIMINATING OUR MOBILE DEVICES AS A "CRIPPLED" INTERNET BROWSER AND GIVE US THE FULL WEB-EXPERIENCE.
I'm sure every user agrees with me on this topic.
I was a faithfull nokia owner in the past 10 years (!!!!). I spent a lot of money on my phones. I always bought them even with limited information on the capabilities because I was trustful about the quality and feature-rich products. However if this issue will not be fixed on this particular phone because of whatever reason, be it as technical issue (the phone is not prepared for such internet experience), or be it as a way of lacking in development (never ment to handle such internet experience at all) then I have to leave nokia for good.
This is not "silly warning" or an angry and frustrating finger pointing. It just the fact that if Nokia forcing me to swap phone, then I cannot trust a company with such business decisions to limit the timespan of their phone in such a way, that would generate more money for them. If this is not the case and we able to finally use our phone as it should work since the beginning then we will be the happiest buyers and supporters on earth.
Hope this message reaches the people who need. I'm also trying to send this to the customer support in the good hope that finally we will see some advancement on this topic. I think we, the users, were quiet patient up until now (a year or so passed and still no sollution on this).
Sincerely yours,
H0PE

Answer 1

Skyfire - not bad, not bad. Some memory handling issues there, many times I have to close and reopen skyfire totally in order to play a flash based video (experienced this after playing around with it for like 15-20minutes, the outcome usually this problem). The sound and picture start "jumping around", back and forth in 5-10seconds intervall of the movie. Seems like chaching problem, buffer overrun or something. Otherwise its usable on a level to check some quick news on cnn and some flash based sites. For long term use its still a no go.
Bolt - not fully supporting touch screen mobiles it seems the latest version didn't handle my input very well. I could only close it and select configuration menu but the rest was not responsive and the app. thought all the time that I wanna configure it.
Opera mobile 10 - at least 5x slower than normally should. Memory handling issues probably. The same site in opera mini or skyfire opens up lets say in 10sec, in opera 10 it takes 50+ second. Also flash isn't working well there either.
These are good and important projects for the future, no doubt. But without a proper "backbone" -that the firmware and OS should give- they are destined to be flawed. And that means on long term its frustrating and clumsy to use them.