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The moderators have asked me to leave this forum and not return. I will respect their wishes and do just that.
What I won't tolerate is their complete lack of any answer to the honest and legitimate questions I have posed to them. In particular, as to why these moderators here are the only ones who claim that the GeForce 4 chipset based vga cards require so much power.
Show me some proof. Maybe an article on a PC vendor's website or a magazine article that backs up your claim. Even a vga card vendor or retailer that lists the power requirements???
You have failed miserably in the fact that you completely play dumb and ignore my questions. Maybe you are that dumb, I'm not sure.
You owe it to every person who comes here looking for help, to give them truthful statements and advice. If you can't, then don't say anything. There are many posts here where people ask for help on their vga cards and the knee-jerk response is "you need a bigger power supply". Syas who? Back it up!! Look through the threads and note how many people you have said that to whom go and spend their money on a new psu, on your recommendation, just to post that they STILL have the same problem.
The moderators here just regurgitate the same lame questionable solutions.
My advice to anyone seeking help here is to do your own homework before wasting money on these "solutions". Join another forum not related to MSI. Find one for NVidia. Or a general tech support forum like techimo. Even ask your local coputer parts stores.
I am not debating the benefits of having a large power supply.
I am, however, questioning your intelligence level and your commitment to helping others versus stroking your own ego.
I will now leave you in peace to say whatever you like about me, but rest assured, after I am done, someone from MSI will be examining this board and it's propensity for distributing inaccurate solutions as related to their products. I am sure MSI will be thrilled with their reputation being associated with inadequacy and unhappy customers
Elzie

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The moderators have asked me to leave this forum and not return. I will respect their wishes and do just that.
No one asked you to leave other than invite you to visit another forum
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What I won't tolerate is their complete lack of any answer to the honest and legitimate questions I have posed to them. In particular, as to why these moderators here are the only ones who claim that the GeForce 4 chipset based vga cards require so much power.
It has been a known issue and has become one of the top solutions to many problems in and out of these forums. In fact, I would say approximately 50% of the time it is an inadequate power supply.
Ever Since the Athlon XP there have been serious issues with inadequate power supplies.
It became obvious that with the current peripherals populating today's PC's the power requirements have increased in performance based systems. Add a GF4 to the mix and it can cripple many supposed 300w power supplies.
If you called my reseller he'd tell you straight out that his tech recommends two or three brands of PSU that are rated over 400w with a AMDXP and GF4 combo, but won't tell you about the combined power requirement because it's like a trade secret.
Telling that to the layman or n00b usually results in a blank stare and that "I don't get it look" I often get from my coworkers when I try to explain anything technical.
Unfortunately, the generic answer from many PC shops is you must have at least a 300w power supply, and again we have the dilemma, whereas there is no set standard, and some will handle the requirements, then, other claimed 300 watters fail miserably and often cause damage to the PC.
Many of these shops don't build the high end systems that we often see in these forums and if they do, it's with tried and true hardware that works together.
There are times when we are wrong but in this medium (forum) it is virtually impossible to be correct in diagnosis all the time, as we cannot be present while troubleshooting.
In troubleshooting PC's and building them yourself without knowledge of these things, leads to many different outcomes.
1.   you get lucky and the build goes well because you did a little homework before doing so.
2.   You have problems that lead you to a medium such as this where you will get varied replies just as you would if you were to call a technician. Possibly solving your problem or leading you down the wrong path.
Ad infinitum.............
Either way, you take the risk of something not performing properly.
Symptoms can be the same for several problems that are encountered. The power supply is more often the solution than not. So my reasoning at least, is why not eliminate the problem before it happens. Remove it from the equation, and if you play your cards right when you purchase the PSU (that may not be the problem).
and you make sure you know the return policy should you not need it, you can then return it, and get your money back.
These are the risks you take when putting together a system or upgrading, novice or not.
You claim to be skilled in troubleshooting, but are you that naive in believing it's that cut and dry?
Neither I nor any of the other mods will tolerate your arrogance and insults to our intelligence, perhaps it is you who need to change your perception.
Offer your skills and help instead of your utter lack of respect. If it is a fight you are looking for, this is not the place or the medium in which to do it, and you have  underestimated your opponent.
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Show me some proof. Maybe an article on a PC vendor's website or a magazine article that backs up your claim. Even a vga card vendor or retailer that lists the power requirements???
 Below are a couple of things that come to mind, I do not have all my links as I lost them in the great IBM 60GXP crash of 2002
Inadequate and Deceptive Product Labeling:
Powersupply Calculation
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/guides/power_supply/
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You have failed miserably in the fact that you completely play dumb and ignore my questions. Maybe you are that dumb, I'm not sure.
I won't even go there, I will just play dumb, for your sake
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You owe it to every person who comes here looking for help, to give them truthful statements and advice. If you can't, then don't say anything. There are many posts here where people ask for help on their vga cards and the knee-jerk response is "you need a bigger power supply". Says who? Back it up!! Look through the threads and note how many people you have said that to whom go and spend their money on a new psu, on your recommendation, just to post that they STILL have the same problem.
You're right about truthful statements and advice, I never, nor have any other Mod, lie to anyone and the fact that you are insinuating we have lied, is a testament to your ignorance and arrogance in this matter.
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The moderators here just regurgitate the same lame questionable solutions.
My advice to anyone seeking help here is to do your own homework before wasting money on these "solutions". Join another forum not related to MSI. Find one for NVIDIA. Or a general tech support forum like techimo. Even ask your local computer parts stores.
I agree with you in part and I can see where you might see them as lame.
And the advice you give in the above quote is good advice, it's always good to get other opinions so you can make a better educated decision, and I invite any user to visit the other forums and then come back to share the experience with us.
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I am, however, questioning your intelligence level and your commitment to helping others versus stroking your own ego.
I believe I already addressed this one before except the ego part.
I don't get that part, only that the ego is obviously present in YOUR posts.
We don't work for MSI but volunteer our time (of which I have spent/wasted too much of my Saturday evening on this reply) This is a user to user community and we are just other users like everyone else but with privileges that allow us to moderate, not solve everyone's problems.
If you do not feel comfortable with the advice then it is ones prerogative to get another opinion or try another forum. We do hope that the user shares the outcome to benefit the community and later use it for reference.