A question about my new T500...

Hello all -- I am new here, and have a quetion about my new T500:
My new machine is a Lenovo Thinkpad T500, with Vista 64 bit installed. It is a pretty neat machine, as far as I can tell so far. This is my first laptop and my first experience with Vista after years of XP. My general computer knowledge is somewhat limited.
So here is my question. All have in the machine so far is Vista and Microsoft Office Home and Student, along with whatever Lenovo preinstalls. I plan to install Photoshop CS4 and Capture NX but have not done so yet, nor have I downloaded any photos or anything. When I go into "Computer" from the start menu it indicates that I only have 99 gigs free in my 160 gig hard drive! I did a quick add up of the visible programs installed in Vista and I get only about 1.2 gigs worth, and there seems to be about another 1.5 gigs of utilities in one partition. What could be occupying the other 58 or so gigabytes??? Vista cannot be this big, can it? How can I find out what is on the HD other than the visible installed programs?
Any help with this mystery will be very much appreciated. I am mystified!
Many thanks in advance...

I am sure this has been decribed many times ... but here it goes anyway
If the actual hard drive (*not* partition!) is 160 gig (written on it), first of all it will only have about 154Gb actual space to be used by the computer - just the thing how manufacturers count those bytes.
Lenovo has a restore partition, I don't remember the exact size (I have deleted it), but it would be around 15Gb if I remember correctly. You also have a startup partition probably (1.5Gb). You can find out what partitions you have in Computer Management. Just open Vista start menu, type in Computer Management (into the search box at the bottom), then open Storage --> Dist Management. Here you will see the partitions. You can read around these forums and other places on the internet how you can get rid of the restore partition if you really do not want it. But don't go just deleting it right away.
Vista x64 takes about a good 20 gigs on your hard drive. Do remember, that because Vista 64 includes WOW64 (Windows on Windows) that means that many things are essentially duplicated: once for the 32 bit applications and once for the 64 bit applications. That is why Vista x64 is larger than Vista x86 (32bit). However, you need x64 if you have 4Gb of RAM. However also remember, that when you look at the C:\WINDOWS folder, that inside there are also "symlinks" to files. So if you just count everything you will get a bigger size than what it actually takes up.
You have hibernation enabled (by default), so if you have 2Gb of RAMs thats another 2Gb, if you have 4Gb of RAM, thats another 4Gb of space.
The paging file by default takes up a variable amount of space, could be anything between 3-6Gb (if you have 4Gb of RAM).
So that's about it. If you add those up (in case of 4Gb of RAM) you get about 46-47Gb of space, at least. Plus any applications and utilities, drivers, etc you have. Lenovo systems by default come with quite a few things.
Windows has probably system restore enabled, which eats up yet again hard drive space.
You can turn things off and tune your system if you really feel that you are running out of space. But until then I would not worry too much about it. You can find many guides around the internet on how to affect various things I referenced above.
If you want to see hidden files (like paging file and hibernation file) you can turn that feature on in Vista. That will certainly help you see most of the things that take up space (not everything). You can find many tutorials by googling, such as
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial130.html
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